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LovingSticky
05-01-08, 12:08 PM
I got XBox-360 Elite today w/ 3 full games (Burnout Paradise, NHL 08 and GTA IV).

Well, the graphic truly sucks. I cannot enjoy any game on such an inferior device :( It reminds me of ATI X800, which was ok 4 years ago, but today we have DX10 on 9800GX2, which is so much superior and more beautiful, that it is not even funny.

Overall, I am extremely dissapointed with the purchase :(

Image of every game is blurred and washed-out, too much HDR is used many times, no AA (running at 1080p on 30" Dell 2560x1600 LCD, using HDMI, upsampled by LCD internal scaler; it looks even worse without upsample), output is just 50Hz.

Is this all? Is this how "next-gen" consoles are supposed to be? Like PC games 4 years ago?! I wonder how anybody can play Wii games, which are supposed to be even worse looking...

By purchasing my first "next-gen" console, I became a true PC gamer, by heart.

|MaguS|
05-01-08, 12:09 PM
(lee63)

ViN86
05-01-08, 12:10 PM
I got XBox-360 Elite today w/ 3 full games (Burnout Paradise, NHL 08 and GTA IV).

Well, the graphic truly sucks. I cannot enjoy any game on such an inferior device :( It reminds me of ATI X800, which was ok 4 years ago, but today we have DX10 on 9800GX2, which is so much superior and more beautiful, that it is not even funny.

Overall, I am extremely dissapointed with the purchase :(

Image of every game is blurred and washed-out, too much HDR is used many times, no AA (running at 1080p on 30" Dell 2560x1600 LCD, using HDMI, upsampled by LCD internal scaler; it looks even worse without upsample), output is just 50Hz.

Is this all? Is this how "next-gen" consoles are supposed to be? Like PC games 4 years ago?! I wonder how anybody can play Wii games, which are supposed to be even worse looking...
not to be a dick or anything, but did you do any research whatsoever before you bought it? did you even try one out?

Zelda_fan
05-01-08, 12:11 PM
most people don't care about graphics. That's why the Wii is the #1 selling console, and the 9800GX2 has sold maybe a couple thousand units.

npras42
05-01-08, 12:11 PM
The games you picked aren't exactly graphical showcases! There are some pretty shabby looking games for the PC as well you know...

LovingSticky
05-01-08, 12:11 PM
I needed a new DVD player, and I will make a good use of Media Center capabilities, but I definitely will NOT use it for games. Graphics is so inferior, comparing to PC.

npras42
05-01-08, 12:12 PM
I needed the world's loudest new DVD player, and I will make a good use of Media Center capabilities, but I definitely will NOT use it for games. Graphics is so inferior, comparing to PC.

Fixed.

LovingSticky
05-01-08, 12:13 PM
Fixed.

True. It was a very stupid decision, and I regret it...

|MaguS|
05-01-08, 12:14 PM
Come on guys... I can't believe your giving this flamebait any attention. He would have far better options for a DVD Player and MediaCenter yet he chose an X360... that is if he really did.

nekrosoft13
05-01-08, 12:17 PM
you mention running 1080p on 30 inch monitor. keep in mind that all 360 (maybe except that one tennis game) rendered at 720p or less. upscalling 1280x720 to 2560x1600. Will make most games look bad

you would have to sit 30 feet away to maybe not notice.

christos
05-01-08, 12:17 PM
What's wrong with Burnout Paradise's graphics?

LovingSticky
05-01-08, 12:19 PM
that is if he really did.

unfortunately, I did. Big mistake.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6407/xboxfu2.jpg

If anybody else wants to make the same mistake, be warned. PC is so much superior, that you will hardly enjoy the "next-gen" console.

|MaguS|
05-01-08, 12:23 PM
Well your fault for playing a console game at 2' away when its designed to be played on the comfort of the couch at a distance. I sit 15' and it all looks just fine for me.

Next time do some research before spending your money, don't be a clueless consumer.

Eliminator
05-01-08, 12:28 PM
If anybody else wants to make the same mistake, be warned. PC is so much superior, that you will hardly enjoy the "next-gen" console.
i have a high end pc and a xbox 360 hooked up to a 30" hdtv and im loving it... games like gears of war and project gotham 4 really show off its capabilities

LovingSticky
05-01-08, 12:29 PM
I will get a demo (of gears of war). Got 1 month of XBox Live Gold for free..

Destroy
05-01-08, 12:30 PM
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Is this all? Is this how "next-gen" consoles are supposed to be? Like PC games 4 years ago?! I wonder how anybody can play Wii games, which are supposed to be even worse looking...

By purchasing my first "next-gen" console, I became a true PC gamer, by heart.

Welcome to next gen gaming. I totally agree it is indeed rather visually inferior in every way but if you can get over that, there is much fun gameplay to be had.

Only reason I put up with my PS3s graphics is because the games aren't available on PC. :(

LovingSticky
05-01-08, 12:30 PM
Next time do some research before spending your money, don't be a clueless consumer.

Do I have to admit this 3 times? I did 2 times already :headexplode: Didn't you ever made a mistake?

nekrosoft13
05-01-08, 12:30 PM
Well your fault for playing a console game at 2' away when its designed to be played on the comfort of the couch at a distance. I sit 15' and it all looks just fine for me.

Next time do some research before spending your money, don't be a clueless consumer.

last time i looked at 360 box, it didn't say that it was required to sit on a couch 15 feet away to play it.

|MaguS|
05-01-08, 12:30 PM
I will get a demo (of gears of war). Got 1 month of XBox Live Gold for free..
Don't need XBLive Gold for demo downloads.

I doubt PGR would impress you since Burnout in my opinion looks far better then it.

ClosetFanBoy
05-01-08, 12:38 PM
I guess you should have waited till 2012. :(

Been PC gaming since about 1993. Bought my 360 about a month ago and I'm fully enjoying it. And I'm one of the biggest PC junkies god ever created. Sorry to hear your disappointed. Would suggest some games to you, but it sounds like your minds made up. Since you have an Elite and a few games, that would make a killer bundle on ebay. :D

six_storm
05-01-08, 12:54 PM
:rolleyes:

If only I were a mod right now, I'd delete this flamebait.

ClosetFanBoy
05-01-08, 12:58 PM
Oh dude, you got yours in time for the just added Kung Fu Panda demo! heh :D

nekrosoft13
05-01-08, 01:00 PM
nm

LovingSticky
05-01-08, 01:00 PM
This is not a flamebait. I do have a direct comparison of (e.g.) Test Drive Unlimited running in "1600p" (2560x1600) on PC versus the same game running in 720p (upsampled to 1600p; there was 1 hour timedemo pre-installed on XBox) on the same 30" LCD.

When you have this direct comparison, believe me, you cannot call XBox-360 "next-gen". It looks horrible. And I cannot enjoy the game, when it looks absolutely unrealistic.

Maybe running it on HD-ready TV (720p), being on the other side of the room, would make it tolerable, but not on 2560x1600 LCD :(

evox
05-01-08, 01:06 PM
This is not a flamebait. I do have a direct comparison of (e.g.) Test Drive Unlimited running in "1600p" (2560x1600)

Slight correction: 2560x1600 is 1440p.

Had to.....