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Soetdjuret
06-07-08, 12:41 AM
just not sure if that's very high/DX10.
Looks like Veryhigh to me, because the Gx2 gets about 30 fps on those settings and that's about how much it get's on Veryhigh in 1680x1050. Can be different resolution and then it's High. Say 2560x1600 then its probably high... But its hard to say.

malachi1313
06-07-08, 12:44 AM
No, actually he did. By telling me to learn to read graphs. I just told that other guy to read the thread as we already went through the mistake i did and it was sorted out already. I don't need to hear from some random guy that i need to learn how to read graphs, the guys here already told me what i missed. Stop stalking me ffs...



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Wow, is this test for real? What's the source of this one?

This is done by a guy at xtremesystems.org and is SPECULATION and the numbers arent real. Guy who did it said he did it as an estimate. Original thread here:http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3040647&postcount=1163 Read small print at bottom..

XxDeadlyxX
06-07-08, 01:23 AM
The graphs scale is 20, so it looks like roughly 28 vs 45FPS to me, still quite good at around 60% improvement. So it should play Crysis fine at 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF, just not sure if that's very high/DX10.

As long as I can actually play Crysis at 1920x1200 using that Mstr config rygel uses (his shots in the Crysis screenshot thread absoltuely own!!) without it dipping into low 20s on a regular basis at 0x or 2xAA, I'll be happy.

SH64
06-07-08, 02:12 AM
Yeah, plus it's 50% improvement without any SLI too ;)
Indeed! that goes without counting the AFR-Latency issue. (i.e. the SLI mouse-lag) :thumbsup:

too bad it appears to be only a speculation though :p

slaWter
06-07-08, 05:06 AM
As long as I can actually play Crysis at 1920x1200 using that Mstr config rygel uses (his shots in the Crysis screenshot thread absoltuely own!!) without it dipping into low 20s on a regular basis at 0x or 2xAA, I'll be happy.

Same here.
My GX2 already did a good job at 1080p with the HP Ultra High config so I'll be happy with the performance of the 280 ;)

xmichaeluk
06-07-08, 03:05 PM
You guys think it would be sensible to sell my 2x8800GTS G92 and buy the GTX280 when it finally comes out?

Vanzagar
06-07-08, 03:56 PM
You guys think it would be sensible to sell my 2x8800GTS G92 and buy the GTX280 when it finally comes out?

Yeah it's real sensible to make a decision based on incomplete info... wait for the benchmarks and reviews...

spajdr
06-07-08, 04:16 PM
You guys think it would be sensible to sell my 2x8800GTS G92 and buy the GTX280 when it finally comes out?

Sure, sell it before it loses price even more, from what i know, GTX 280 is faster in everyday compared to 2x8800GTS, you can believe, really :)

XDanger
06-07-08, 05:40 PM
GTX 280 use 0.8ns Hynix GDDR3 memory.

That sucks donkeys

xmichaeluk
06-07-08, 06:41 PM
I'm not gonna sell them now, I think it would be better to wait untill some real benchmarks see the daylight.

AthlonXP1800
06-07-08, 06:45 PM
Here are the first real GTX 260 & 280 3DMark 06 and Vantage benchmarks tested on setup with 3GHz Q9650, 2GB RAM and nForce 790i chipset running Vista Enterprise SP1 to compare against 3870X2, 8800 Ultra and 9800GTX using Geforce 177.26 and Catalyst 8.3 drivers.

http://bbs.chiphell.com/attachments/month_0806/20080607_52b9dabecf4ee472b1c9sCHFvBdoLGz9.jpg

GTX 280 should score 16,xxx 3DMark 06 at 1280x1024 so it seem to be a driver issue so hope Nvidia will improve it in future driver. GTX 260 numbers are looking good. :)

SH64
06-07-08, 06:55 PM
Nice numbers! obviously there is some driver issues on 3DMark06 though!

mojoman0
06-07-08, 07:15 PM
Wow that card is really going to annihilate any game coming out in the next year isn't it. Save crysis warhead ;)

xmichaeluk
06-07-08, 07:26 PM
My 2x8800GTS have scored well over 16000 in 3dmark 06 @ 1280x1024 I'm starting to doubt whether I should upgrade or not.

Anyone knows what the prices might be like?

walterman
06-07-08, 07:59 PM
Here are the first real GTX 260 & 280 3DMark 06 and Vantage benchmarks tested on setup with 3GHz Q9650, 2GB RAM and nForce 790i chipset running Vista Enterprise SP1 to compare against 3870X2, 8800 Ultra and 9800GTX using Geforce 177.26 and Catalyst 8.3 drivers.

http://bbs.chiphell.com/attachments/month_0806/20080607_52b9dabecf4ee472b1c9sCHFvBdoLGz9.jpg

GTX 280 should score 16,xxx 3DMark 06 at 1280x1024 so it seem to be a driver issue so hope Nvidia will improve it in future driver. GTX 260 numbers are looking good. :)

In the high resolutions with AA/AF the scores are around a 47-58% higher than on the 8800 Ultra, so, guess what, the card is bounded by the memory bandwidth (145 GB/s vs 100 GB/s = 45% +-).

So, it looks like it is not going to be enough for 1920x1200 with SSAA 2x :(:(:(

G-Man
06-07-08, 08:55 PM
wow the numbers are descent, i was hoping the GTX 280 would get 100% increase over the 8800 ultra in all test, especially the extreme test.

XxDeadlyxX
06-07-08, 09:07 PM
Maybe with better drivers it may.

Revs
06-07-08, 09:15 PM
If it's gonna cost anything like it the rumors suggest ($600-700) I can't see it being worth an upgrade. If I want an improvement over my current rig I'd need to get two GTX's and that's alot of money just to play crysis.

I'm gonna hold out and see how ATI do with the X2 or even the 55nm GTX280. Prices should be lower then.

EDIT: In fact the new GTX280 is slower than the current 3870X2 (at least in 3DM) and probably the GX2. The new 4870X2 is gonna kick it's ass and for <$500.

SH64
06-07-08, 09:40 PM
EDIT: In fact the new GTX280 is slower than the current 3870X2 (at least in 3DM) and probably the GX2. The new 4870X2 is gonna kick it's ass and for <$500.
Yay lets go get ourselves some 3870X2's!!!

walterman
06-07-08, 10:10 PM
I think that the GDDR3 memory is holding the true performance of this chip.

As i always have stated here, you need a monster bandwidth to run monster resolutions with AA/AF. Shading power is useful when you aren't bandwidth bounded.

The memory bandwidth of a gfx card is like a gold ingot. (do not mention the R600 please)

I just can hope that the 55nm refresh features GDDR5 with a 512bit bus -> 300 GB/s :drooling:

G-Man
06-08-08, 01:57 AM
I think that the GDDR3 memory is holding the true performance of this chip.

As i always have stated here, you need a monster bandwidth to run monster resolutions with AA/AF. Shading power is useful when you aren't bandwidth bounded.

The memory bandwidth of a gfx card is like a gold ingot. (do not mention the R600 please)

I just can hope that the 55nm refresh features GDDR5 with a 512bit bus -> 300 GB/s :drooling:

AMEN to that, hence i'll wait for the 4870X2 to come out before i make a decision!

Runningman
06-08-08, 03:12 AM
EDIT: In fact the new GTX280 is slower than the current 3870X2 (at least in 3DM) and probably the GX2. The new 4870X2 is gonna kick it's ass and for <$500.
im wondering what kind of performance boost the memory share tech is going to have?

xmichaeluk
06-08-08, 03:46 AM
I just hope that ATI's RV770 will wipe the floor with nvidia's GTX280.

slaWter
06-08-08, 04:41 AM
I don't really care about 3DMark but just look at the situations with 4xAA and high resolutions... both 256-bit cards, the 9800GTX and the X2, are suddenly slower than the Ultra and the new GTX series.
This could happen with the new ATI cards as well.

xmichaeluk
06-08-08, 04:48 AM
When is RV770 due out? I am talking about Radeon 4870X2 specifically.