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surfhurleydude
05-08-03, 08:42 PM
http://www.tt-hardware.com/article.php?sid=4316

http://www.x86-secret.com/pics/big/fx5900-2b.jpg

It has begun!!!!

GeForce FX 5900 Ultra scores over 6500 at stock speeds!!!

I was right!!!

The world's going to end!!
:eek: :eek:

jAkUp
05-08-03, 08:45 PM
Fibbled: removed images, see links above for them:cool:

jAkUp: but its much easier this way:D

NV35 Picture 1 (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=117161)
NV35 Picture 2 (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&attachmentid=1851)

mikechai
05-08-03, 08:48 PM
Didn't they sign the NDA ?

:eek:

jAkUp
05-08-03, 08:53 PM
look at this... this benchie compares the det 50's to the 43.51... maybe we can get an idea of what kinda boost we will get from the new drivers:

http://www.tt-hardware.com/img/news/news090503_1dujour.gif

/and here is a translation for the article:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?tt=url&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tt-hardware.com%2Farticle.php%3Fsid%3D4316&lp=fr_en

Impact
05-08-03, 09:00 PM
Translation:

Tuesday, a friend lituanien (let us stop always showing Russian!) us forwarded some figures obtained on Ultra GeForce FX 5900 as its impressions vis-a-vis the some briefs tests which it had been able to make. We did not publish these figures upon the departure bus they appeared to us "too high". In fact, they were correct but carried out with the drivers Detonator 50.xx. This person could return us the same results but with less advanced drivers, certainly close to those which will be used in the tests which will be published the next week. This thus means that the first tests published will not be carried out with the new drivers which would name Detonator FX.

We added there the score of our Radeon 9800 Pro of test benchée on the same platform (nForce 2), with the same CPU (Athlon XP 3000+). Not having GeForce FX 5800 pennies the hand, we picked in the data base of Futuremark for this chart.

This being said, here figures in question:




If the increase in the performances is only light (but well presents) with "traditional" drivers, it strongly increases with the 50.xx! However, it could be that the scores are not comparable with those of Ultra GeForce FX 5800 which cheating always in 3d Mark 2003. In other words, although the difference between the 2 charts of NVIDIA is thin with the same drivers, it would seem that the 5900, it, cheating not.

As you know it, GeForce FX 5200, 5600 and 5800 have a large handicap during calculations in Floating Point like the 64 bits (4 X 16 bits) or the 128 bits (4 X 32 bits). NVIDIA doubtless "looked after" GeForce FX 5900 in this field. Besides this joined the comments which we received of which here an extract translated into French:


"... of pretty figures! Ca made a long time on behalf of material NVIDIA! The images seem well, more problem of quality to the first glance. Afflicted not to be able to give you figures as detailed as the other time...... but the images seem correct this time. Truth floating not at a decent speed. You know what I think of that, and you divisions my vision of the things I think (?), it is for me a first chart of NVIDIA which will be able to post the graphics conceived in the direction of DX9... "
We agree of course completely with this person as for Floating Point which is according to us one of the major interests of the DirectX9 material. Although putting it strongly ahead, NVIDIA does not hesitate to decontaminate it in its drivers over the remainder of range FX to gain in performances.


Our fellow-member 3DChips-Fr published this evening some details concerning GeForce FX 5900:


Bus report 256 bits

450 MHz for the core

425 MHz for the 256 Mo of memory

UltraShadow Technology

Intellisample HTC

CineFX 2.0

Power in Floating not doubled

More dry hair
CineFX 2.0 seems to be only CineFX with UltraShadow. Technology which makes it possible to accelerate returned shadow volumes. But it is difficult to say if it is of an innovation hardware or a technology software intended for all range FX, but marketée only with the FX 5900 to increase the impact of the advertisement.

In short, GeForce FX 5900 seems to hold its promises! What somewhat changes remainder of the range FX which, it should be acknowledged, had disappointed overall.


[ MAJ ]: our fellow-member x86-secrecy has just published some photographs, the first to our knowledge, of Ultra GeForce FX 5900!

John Reynolds
05-08-03, 09:02 PM
Anyone interested in real 3DMark2003 scores on these new Detonator drivers needs to take a very, very close look at what's being rendered. . .and what's not.

ChrisW
05-08-03, 09:11 PM
The card looks so much better without the FXFlow thing on it. I hope it realy has a 256 bit memory bus and eight pixel pipelines this time.

bkswaney
05-08-03, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by John Reynolds
Anyone interested in real 3DMark2003 scores on these new Detonator drivers needs to take a very, very close look at what's being rendered. . .and what's not.

Give me a break. :rolleyes:
R u kidding?
We have always seen huge speed boost in a new set of drivers.

Matt-AWD
05-08-03, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by bkswaney
Give me a break. :rolleyes:
R u kidding?
We have always seen huge speed boost in a new set of drivers.

With nvidia's track record with drivers lately, I'd say it's a legit concern.

bkswaney
05-08-03, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Matt-AWD
With nvidia's track record with drivers lately, I'd say it's a legit concern.

o wow... one set that may or may not be cheating and now all the nv drivers r bad.??

I quick everyone forgets NV's real track record on drivers.
They are #1 in my book.

jbirney
05-08-03, 09:59 PM
was that with any AF or AA? If so what was the AF set to? Crappy? Ok or Application?

jAkUp
05-08-03, 10:01 PM
i dont think any aa or af was used... they have the geforcefx scoring 5,429... thats about what mine scores with default settings.

mikechai
05-08-03, 10:07 PM
Just wait for one more week ...

bkswaney
05-08-03, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by jAkUp
i dont think any aa or af was used... they have the geforcefx scoring 5,429... thats about what mine scores with default settings.

Yep. :)
The only thing holding back the nv30 is the 128bit bus.
The NV30 core is a monster. Pair the nv30 core with a 256bit bus and drivers made for the fx line = "one bad ass card"
The AA/AF performance should be as good as the 9800 now.
Even at best IQ. :)

jAkUp
05-08-03, 10:19 PM
yes it should... the only reason that the fx was slower than the raddy with aa and af is because of the bus... now that they fixed that... it should perform enourmously better with aa or af.

mikechai
05-08-03, 10:20 PM
1. It is quite a big card.
2. It will be a great card.
3. The NV35 Lite will be the next TI 4200.

volt
05-08-03, 10:22 PM
And there goes the NDA :rolleyes:

mikechai
05-08-03, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by volt
And there goes the NDA :rolleyes:

Who's NDA ?

volt
05-08-03, 10:28 PM
whoever posted those pictures / info ?

mikechai
05-08-03, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by volt
whoever posted those pictures / info ?


The one posted the pics/info didn't sign the NDA.
But they got their info from someone who signed the NDA.

Actually, I rather wait one more week without any leaked info to have a bigger surprise ...
;)

volt
05-08-03, 10:38 PM
whoever it was, you get the drift

bkswaney
05-08-03, 10:47 PM
http://www.x86-secret.com/pics/big/fx5900-2b.jpg

bkswaney
05-08-03, 10:48 PM
http://www.x86-secret.com/pics/big/fx5900-2b.jpg

Well, dang. they will not let u link it seems. :(:mad:

I have the pic saved on my desktop if someone has a upload spot. :)

jAkUp
05-08-03, 10:52 PM
uploaded:D

volt
05-08-03, 10:53 PM
Let's not go crazy pleaaaaaaaaase :)

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11471

MERGED!