Lossless CD extraction software...

[stevemedes]

Hey, I want to make FLAC rips of my CD collection. Did some searching and EAC seems the most accurate way to do it, however it's rather complicated to use. What do you guys use for your lossless rips?

[AngelGraves13]

Apple's iTunes Lossless Encoder?

That's what I use!

[stevemedes]

Apple's iTunes Lossless Encoder?

That's what I use!

I think I wanna use FLAC, I don't want anything proprietary like WMA lossless or Apple lossless. Thanks though.

[bacon12]

Plenty of linux tools for this, I never use windows for ripping/burning encoding..

[OldOfEvil]

http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/

Haven't used it in a few years, but I imagine it can do FLAC.

[hokeyplyr48]

how big are the FLAC files? Is there a significant quality boost to justify the size difference?

[ViN86]

about 30MB for a 3 min song.

why dont you just use the FLAC frontend? that's exactly what it's designed for.
http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html

this one looks good too
http://www.freerip.com/

[stevemedes]

about 30MB for a 3 min song.

why dont you just use the FLAC frontend? that's exactly what it's designed for.
http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html

this one looks good too
http://www.freerip.com/

the flac frontend needs a uncompressed wav file to work with. looks like i have three choices, cdex, eac and dbpoweramp. only eac and dbpoweramp will do a secure (accurate) rip.

[RejZoR]

Any program can rip into WAV which is lossless. You can encode it later to FLAC or Monkey or WMA Lossless...

[dxx]

Any program can rip into WAV which is lossless. You can encode it later to FLAC or Monkey or WMA Lossless...

Yep. And if space is a concern (which is really shouldn't be, when 500GB harddrives sell for £30 / $60), there's always NTFS compression.

[ViN86]

the flac frontend needs a uncompressed wav file to work with. looks like i have three choices, cdex, eac and dbpoweramp. only eac and dbpoweramp will do a secure (accurate) rip.

no, you can use windows media player (WMP) for lossless WAV ripping from CD's. (thought you knew that)

in WMP 11, go to Rip, then set the Format to WAV (Lossless)

add those files to the FLAC frontend and you got it.

[Sycario]

I use eac. I've been using it for a long time and have never had any problems.

[AngelGraves13]

I think I wanna use FLAC, I don't want anything proprietary like WMA lossless or Apple lossless. Thanks though.

Isn't FLAC poprietary? Hardly anything plays it. At least Audiosurf can play Apple Lossless (M4A)

[Bearclaw]

I use Winamp. That program is amazing.

[Bearclaw]

how big are the FLAC files? Is there a significant quality boost to justify the size difference?

Some people notice it and others don't. I definitely notice the difference; almost all of my music is in FLAC.

[stevemedes]

Isn't FLAC poprietary? Hardly anything plays it. At least Audiosurf can play Apple Lossless (M4A)

FLAC is free (free lossless audio codec)

Im using dbpoweramp, has an easy to use securemode (accurate) and supports accuraterip so i can compare my rips with others for accuracy. I would use WMP, but it doesnt have a secure mode and you cant even view a log...

[OldOfEvil]

Some people notice it and others don't. I definitely notice the difference; almost all of my music is in FLAC.

My observations,

FLAC (any lossless) vs. most lower bit rate (lossy) encodes, 128kbps MP3, you can hear distortion sometimes. I rip everything these days in 256kbps VBR AAC and can not tell the difference between that and a lossless file. So, it works for me, and doesn't kill the battery as fast on my iPod.

[stevemedes]

From what I understand, you really need higher end audio equipment to hear the difference between lossy and lossless. THat being said, I only want to rip my collection once, so ill go lossless and if i need to compress it further i can encode with mp3 or whatever.

[AngelGraves13]

I've started re-encoding my music in Apple Lossless. It sounds much better. I didn't hear the difference before with my onboard sound, but the difference is noticeable on my X-Fi. It just has more atmosphere. I can hear quiet sounds that were either too quiet with 320 kps or just not there before. It's like Dynamic Range in movies. Sure, you can hear it better when it's compressed, but you lose a lot of quality and it still sounds better with full dynamic range.

Apple Lossless AAC is a winner. Especially if you use iTunes.

I'm listening to The Fountain (Original Score) and comparing it to mp3s that I made. Much better!

[ViN86]

Isn't FLAC poprietary? Hardly anything plays it. At least Audiosurf can play Apple Lossless (M4A)

so, you shoot down FLAC for being proprietary, and then endorse Apple Lossless? the word "ironic" doesnt even do that statement justice :lol:

anyways, FLAC files are played by many media players including Foobar (a personal favorite) and VLC (another personal favorite). it's an open source format and is free (see above for the acronym).

I've started re-encoding my music in Apple Lossless. It sounds much better. I didn't hear the difference before with my onboard sound, but the difference is noticeable on my X-Fi. It just has more atmosphere. I can hear quiet sounds that were either too quiet with 320 kps or just not there before. It's like Dynamic Range in movies. Sure, you can hear it better when it's compressed, but you lose a lot of quality and it still sounds better with full dynamic range.

Apple Lossless AAC is a winner. Especially if you use iTunes.

I'm listening to The Fountain (Original Score) and comparing it to mp3s that I made. Much better!
really? most audiophiles cant even tell the difference.

[AngelGraves13]

so, you shoot down FLAC for being proprietary, and then endorse Apple Lossless? the word "ironic" doesnt even do that statement justice :lol:

anyways, FLAC files are played by many media players including Foobar (a personal favorite) and VLC (another personal favorite). it's an open source format and is free (see above for the acronym).


really? most audiophiles cant even tell the difference.

I use iTunes for all my music needs. It rips, it burns, and it organizes. What more could I want? It even downloads my album art. iTunes can't play FLAC, and neither can Windows Media Player. The key to having an organized computer is consolidation. iTunes does everything I need it to do and then some.

Windows Media Player is a joke. I never even launch it. If I want to watch a movie I use Nero ShowTime. With those 2 programs, I really don't need anything else. I like having as few programs as possible on my computer.

The only thing Apple ever did right was iTunes and the iPod. Well...Final Cut too.

BTW, I can tell the difference between lossy and lossless music. Most people can't. My friend listens to music so loud on his heaphones that I can hear it perfectly from 20 feet away. All his music is at 96 kbps. He says he can't tell the difference between any of them. Oh, and he tells me I'm deaf because I ask him to turn up movies louder (because of the dynamic range) so I can hear the dialogue. He's too busy thinking about work and how to get laid to pay attention to movies.

[ViN86]

I use iTunes for all my music needs. It rips, it burns, and it organizes. What more could I want? It even downloads my album art. iTunes can't play FLAC, and neither can Windows Media Player. The key to having an organized computer is consolidation. iTunes does everything I need it to do and then some.

Windows Media Player is a joke. I never even launch it. If I want to watch a movie I use Nero ShowTime. With those 2 programs, I really don't need anything else. I like having as few programs as possible on my computer.

The only thing Apple ever did right was iTunes and the iPod. Well...Final Cut too.
yea, i use VLC media player and iTunes for all my music/media.

BTW, I can tell the difference between lossy and lossless music. Most people can't. My friend listens to music so loud on his heaphones that I can hear it perfectly from 20 feet away. All his music is at 96 kbps. He says he can't tell the difference between any of them. Oh, and he tells me I'm death because I ask him to turn up movies louder (because of the dynamic range) so I can hear the dialogue. He's too busy thinking about work and how to get laid to pay attention to movies.
he said youre dead because you cant hear? :p

think you were lookin for "deaf" hehe

[Absolution]

You guys are such noobs =D

Anyway, FLAC is where you want to go, your intuition lead you to the right place. FLAC is also playable on MANY mp3 players and programs. Itunes sucks for the record, use winamp.

http://jiggafellz.isa-geek.net/eac/ All your CD ripping needs.

Also, if you want info on why you should use OGG/FLAC for your ripps, check the hydrogenaudio wiki.

Here is why FLAC > ALAC:
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison

[lduguay]

Yep. And if space is a concern (which is really shouldn't be, when 500GB harddrives sell for £30 / $60), there's always NTFS compression.

NTFS compression is useless for this type of files. Try zipping a .wav...

[AngelGraves13]

yea, i use VLC media player and iTunes for all my music/media.


he said youre dead because you cant hear? :p

think you were lookin for "deaf" hehe

Woops...yeah lol Don't drink and type!