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MUYA
06-16-08, 08:56 AM
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx_280_performance_revealed_-_msi_n280gtx/1

spajdr
06-16-08, 08:57 AM
http://media.bestofmicro.com/H/G/110788/original/image034.png

Lfctony
06-16-08, 09:02 AM
Go MUYA!!! :p

MUYA
06-16-08, 09:04 AM
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2320089,00.asp

MUYA
06-16-08, 09:05 AM
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13736

MUYA
06-16-08, 09:05 AM
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2593

DSC
06-16-08, 09:13 AM
The GTX 280 isn't clocked high enough to best the 9800 GX2. If you already run a 9800GTX SLI setup or GX2 card I'd skip GTX 280 and wait for the GT200b 55nm card, hopefully drivers improved by then and Nvidia clocks the core and shader clock sky high and use GDDR5 memory too, 200GB or even more of bandwidth is :drooling:

Bman212121
06-16-08, 09:17 AM
From what I've noticed so far the GX2 can edge out the GTX 280 on the lower end in about half of the games, the GTX 280 looks to win the other half. The biggest difference is that any test I've seen that uses AA / AF is when the GTX 280 is on top. Other than COD4 which seems kind of odd performance wise, once you add AA on higher resolutions the GTX 280 comes out on top.

EDIT: FS seems to not have an issue in COD4, and it runs better than a GX2. http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_gtx_280_260_performance/page9.asp

jAkUp
06-16-08, 09:18 AM
Also chrisRay mention that with SLI they are no more hitches and micro stuttering with GTXes :)

Yup, that was the biggest difference I noti, honostly, the difference I cannot explain in FPS or graphs, overall the GTX 280's just feel much smoother.

Badboy_12345
06-16-08, 09:24 AM
a card that costs less and is older is better than GTX280...

And the prices will be coming down on the 9800GX2 when the GTX280 is released.

Lol what crap :p

Im going for the GX2 then when the prices come down. wth were they thinking?

MUYA
06-16-08, 09:25 AM
http://legitreviews.com/article/726/1/

nekrosoft13
06-16-08, 09:35 AM
a card that costs less and is older is better than GTX280...

And the prices will be coming down on the 9800GX2 when the GTX280 is released.

Lol what crap :p

Im going for the GX2 then when the prices come down. wth were they thinking?

same here, i will wait to see ATI reviews, if also nothing special, i'm going to buy GX2 then.

GTX 280 should cost no more then 450 to match it in price with GX2

Badboy_12345
06-16-08, 09:39 AM
same here, i will wait to see ATI reviews, if also nothing special, i'm going to buy GX2 then.

GTX 280 should cost no more then 450 to match it in price with GX2

Yeah Im waiting for the 4870 reviews also

but as it is now the nvidia 200 series is a big disappointment. They are priced totally wrong for the performance. And its not the 9800GX2 is an ATI card its their own. I really dont know how they came to this decision.

weeds
06-16-08, 09:43 AM
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_gtx_280_260_performance/
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=579

CaptNKILL
06-16-08, 09:52 AM
Meh, not enough of an improvement for me to consider buying one.

The only current game that gives me any significant performance problems is Crysis and 10 more fps average is about a quarter of what is needed to smooth that game out.

Looks like I'm saving $600 this time around. :lol:

Fotis
06-16-08, 09:54 AM
Numbers look good.Probably a few driver revisions to reach its full potential.

mullet
06-16-08, 09:57 AM
Funny thing is, the GX2 was also a "huge disappointment" back when it was released and suddenly it's the best card around...

:thumbsup:

mcolbourn
06-16-08, 09:58 AM
I guess we have to wait for a few driver releases to start getting the best out of the card.

LordJuanlo
06-16-08, 10:03 AM
I'm disappointed with those tests, so I'm not upgrading yet. €550 for those cards is a complete ripoff, similar performance than 9800GX2 (and worse in some cases).

Booooo

Bman212121
06-16-08, 10:12 AM
Funny thing is, the GX2 was also a "huge disappointment" back when it was released and suddenly it's the best card around...

Actually what I think is ironic is that everyone is complaining about a card that fixes all of the things that people didn't like with the GX2. They both offer similiar performance which should be expected when they both came out in the same timeframe.

Just think if the GX2 never surfaced there would only be benchmarks between the 9800GTX or 8800GTX versus the GTX 280. Everyone would be raving about the massive gains that are present. :p

mcolbourn
06-16-08, 10:19 AM
Actually what I think is ironic is that everyone is complaining about a card that fixes all of the things that people didn't like with the GX2. They both offer similiar performance which should be expected when they both came out in the same timeframe.

Just think if the GX2 never surfaced there would only be benchmarks between the 9800GTX or 8800GTX versus the GTX 280. Everyone would be raving about the massive gains that are present. :p


Now thats true.

LordJuanlo
06-16-08, 10:19 AM
And if they both offer similar performance, shouldn't offer similar price too?

CaptNKILL
06-16-08, 10:35 AM
I think people are complaining because this card was supposedly an enormous improvement in every way, but in fact its being beat by 2 $170 cards in SLI in some benchmarks.

The PR crap was saying that each stream processor was 40% faster than the previous generation of stream processors, and now there is 240 of them.

Memory bandwidth has finally increased dramatically (SLI doesn't double the usable memory bandwidth) and we have a real 1Gb of usable memory.

Despite all that, it just isn't that much of an improvement over cards that are a year and a half old, where as the 8800GTX totally stomped the competition and all of those cards were only a few months old (7900GTX, 7950GX2 and 8800GTX were released within 8 months). In most games, one 8800GTX was faster than or roughly equal to 7950GX2 quad SLI, 7900GTX SLI or x1950xtx crossfire, and those were all high end cards.

Bman212121
06-16-08, 10:46 AM
And if they both offer similar performance, shouldn't offer similar price too?

I think the price is a little steep as well, but that's normal for any new product. If it settles around $550 I think the extra features on the card would justify the difference.

ASUSEN7900GTX
06-16-08, 10:49 AM
can it be that drivers arenīt all that great for these new Nvidia cards?

and since Ati chose tpo postpone their cards maybe this give Nvidia a chanse to polish and tweak their drivers to be better and once the HD4 line is out they no longer are so superior to Nvidia.

well thatīs my thoughts of this