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PeterJensen
06-18-08, 01:37 PM
I think allot here are forgetting the CRAP ATi drivers....I KNOW - I to this day still have a X2 on my desk....an utterly crap card. It may not be the cards fault but the drivers....All i know is that in a game like EVE Online that i play allot i get HALF the fps as an GTS/512....
I will NEVER spend my money on an ATI card again before i see tests in not "common" games. And thats FINAL!

But sure - the new cards maybe isane - if they are i will try them. Like i did the X2. But right now i'm 98% sure i will be sorry.

Sure this may be a rant, but its from personal experience!

BAHHHHH!

Redshirt #24
06-18-08, 04:19 PM
That FiringSquad article is actually quite positive (perhaps more so for the 260 than the 280), except for the bit on page 5 about apparent heat sensitivity. For me, that's a bit of a red flag...

Mr_LoL
06-18-08, 04:42 PM
2x 4850 = GTX 280 KILLER

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=500923

I would rather have a fast single card. Can't be doing with crossfire or sli.

s-flow
06-18-08, 09:02 PM
I will NEVER spend my money on an ATI card again before i see tests in not "common" games. And thats FINAL!


Sure this may be a rant, but its from personal experience!

BAHHHHH!

+1

SH64
06-18-08, 11:43 PM
That FiringSquad article is actually quite positive (perhaps more so for the 260 than the 280), except for the bit on page 5 about apparent heat sensitivity. For me, that's a bit of a red flag...
Hmmm good catch .. thats concerning news ..

SH64
06-18-08, 11:48 PM
I think allot here are forgetting the CRAP ATi drivers....I KNOW - I to this day still have a X2 on my desk....an utterly crap card. It may not be the cards fault but the drivers....All i know is that in a game like EVE Online that i play allot i get HALF the fps as an GTS/512....
I will NEVER spend my money on an ATI card again before i see tests in not "common" games. And thats FINAL!

But sure - the new cards maybe isane - if they are i will try them. Like i did the X2. But right now i'm 98% sure i will be sorry.

Sure this may be a rant, but its from personal experience!

BAHHHHH!
& what are you gonna do if these (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1686141&postcount=3) numbers came out to be true ? :p

Blacklash
06-19-08, 12:48 AM
If the HD 4870 turn out to be the fastest single GPU on the planet, I will own it. Otherwise, I am sticking with the GTX 280. By fastest, I don't mean winning 2 out of 18 game tests. I mean winning more than it loses @ 1920x and up with AA active.

slaWter
06-19-08, 02:50 AM
If the HD 4870 turn out to be the fastest single GPU on the planet, I will own it. Otherwise, I am sticking with the GTX 280. By fastest, I don't mean winning 2 out of 18 game tests. I mean winning more than it loses @ 1920x and up with AA active.

That's not gonna happen :p

Uberpwnage
06-19-08, 03:20 AM
Isn't the 4870 just a 4850 with GDDR5 and a higher core clock? Obviously the memory bandwidth is substantially higher but I've heard the 4870 is only 10-20% faster then the 4850. Any truth to this? Sad that all we're seeing is 4850 hype...

Mr_LoL
06-19-08, 04:29 AM
If the HD 4870 turn out to be the fastest single GPU on the planet, I will own it. Otherwise, I am sticking with the GTX 280. By fastest, I don't mean winning 2 out of 18 game tests. I mean winning more than it loses @ 1920x and up with AA active.

Same. And it will probably be cheaper than the 260.

MUYA
06-19-08, 04:39 AM
Interesting times for us consumers :)

I have a CF board...so maybe just maybe I might go with the red camp depenidng on reviews :)

K007
06-19-08, 06:44 AM
Interesting times for us consumers :)

I have a CF board...so maybe just maybe I might go with the red camp depenidng on reviews :)

+same boat

nekrosoft13
06-19-08, 08:27 AM
Come on ATI, smack nvidia around a bit!!

Those greedy bastards deserve to go down a notch, lower the god damn prices!

SH64
06-19-08, 09:50 AM
Interesting times for us consumers :)

I have a CF board...so maybe just maybe I might go with the red camp depenidng on reviews :)
:ban:

brady
06-19-08, 09:54 AM
& what are you gonna do if these (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1686141&postcount=3) numbers came out to be true ? :p

If those numbers are true then I might just go AMD this round. If a single 4870 is beating a GX2 in Crysis then it's certainly going to beat the 280. And a CF setup would be well worth $600 IMO. I'd need a new board but I just might do it for that.

The only thing that gives me pause on that idea is CUDA. I want CUDA apps. Those are a pretty big pull for me this gen. I'm on the fence because the performance of a single 280 is really more than enough for my needs at the resolutions I intend to play at plus I'd be getting incredible performance in CUDA apps. But, with AMD I might be getting the faster card for less, but no CUDA apps. What to do...?

nekrosoft13
06-19-08, 10:48 AM
CUDA is great, but i just don't see myself paying $650 for GTX 280. GTX 280 should sell for 450-500.

brady
06-19-08, 10:54 AM
CUDA is great, but i just don't see myself paying $650 for GTX 280. GTX 280 should sell for 450-500.

I hope the 4870 prompts a nice price drop. Go AMD!

pizzaguy
06-19-08, 11:21 AM
CUDA is great, but i just don't see myself paying $650 for GTX 280. GTX 280 should sell for 450-500.

This is about the 10th time I have seen you complaining about the price. Get a job or STFU.

mullet
06-19-08, 11:40 AM
Interesting times for us consumers :)

I have a CF board...so maybe just maybe I might go with the red camp depenidng on reviews :)

Amen brodah.

mullet
06-19-08, 11:40 AM
This is about the 10th time I have seen you complaining about the price. Get a job or STFU.

Be nice or STFU.

pizzaguy
06-19-08, 02:39 PM
Be nice or STFU.

Well I guess you sure told me :rolleyes:

Mr_LoL
06-19-08, 02:46 PM
Its expensive there is no denying that. I don't really think the market is that big for $650 cards anymore.

pizzaguy
06-19-08, 03:01 PM
Its expensive there is no denying that. I don't really think the market is that big for $650 cards anymore.

I know im not biting. I will wait this out patiently and see what ATI brings to the table but in the end I will probably end up with a GTX 260.

Redshirt #24
06-20-08, 11:50 AM
For me, at least, the GTX 280 is just...no. The 260 as it is now is at my current extreme upper budget range, but with a completely stock rig it may not be the best fit either. So I continue to wait for the 4870 information blackout to lift...

hell_of_doom227
06-20-08, 01:12 PM
Actually i think the best would be x48 motherboard with two HD 4870X2. Extremely fast system for much less money then 790SLI + SLI GTX280.