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pizzaguy
06-18-08, 10:16 AM
I think if I tried that it would be the end of me ;)

LOL I know what you mean. Every time something comes to the door via UPS or Fedex my wife is like (So how much did that cost?) LOL.

PeterAce
06-18-08, 06:22 PM
Just finnished putting together the new setup :

http://www.bradcom.co.uk/peterbradshaw/pics/280/boxes.jpg

http://www.bradcom.co.uk/peterbradshaw/pics/280/280over.jpg

http://www.bradcom.co.uk/peterbradshaw/pics/280/280SLI.jpg

http://www.bradcom.co.uk/peterbradshaw/pics/280/280SLIcomp.jpg
:D

Feyy
06-18-08, 10:32 PM
Sexy :D

mailman2
06-18-08, 10:49 PM
So has anyone tried Crysis yet? Can't wait to see the "I gained 8 FPS in Crysis over my single 8800GTX, I could've bought a car with the money I spent..." posts. Sorry guys, but thats just too much money for such a slight upgrade.

Blacklash
06-18-08, 11:41 PM
Hmm I been hearing rumors about a faster card coming. I wonder how much faster this one will be compared to a GTX 280 @ 670-700.

pizzaguy
06-19-08, 12:29 AM
So has anyone tried Crysis yet? Can't wait to see the "I gained 8 FPS in Crysis over my single 8800GTX, I could've bought a car with the money I spent..." posts. Sorry guys, but thats just too much money for such a slight upgrade.

Because Crysis is the only game anyone plays :rolleyes:

Topboy
06-19-08, 06:01 AM
Just ordered this

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=827381

it is going to replace the 9800 GX2 i bought last week as its going back.

Topboy

GitDat
06-19-08, 07:57 AM
Will someone run the DX10 Call of Juarez benchmark already? :screwy:

rap1d^
06-19-08, 09:26 AM
Will someone run the DX10 Call of Juarez benchmark already? :screwy:

GTX280 Single GPU

http://frasermcfarlane1.bulldoghome.com/pages/frasermcfarlane1_bulldoghome_com/CoJsingle.bmp

GTX280 SLi

http://frasermcfarlane1.bulldoghome.com/pages/frasermcfarlane1_bulldoghome_com/CoJ.bmp

GitDat
06-19-08, 09:31 AM
GTX280 SLi

http://frasermcfarlane1.bulldoghome.com/pages/frasermcfarlane1_bulldoghome_com/CoJ.bmp

Cool, thanks. CoJ is not too far off from Crysis for choking cards :) lol

nekrosoft13
06-19-08, 09:50 AM
SLI actually doubles performance

rap1d^
06-19-08, 09:50 AM
SLI actually doubles performance

Yep looks like it, If only Crysis would scale so well!!

mullet
06-19-08, 10:14 AM
Here we go :D

BFG GTX 280 OC:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8724/img0421yw5.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4809/img0459ro9.jpg

A few benchmarks...

System:
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 4.00GHz, 10x400MHz
ASUS P5K Deluxe
4x2048MB Mushkin REDLINE 1000MHz 5-5-5-12 2T
WD Raptor 150GB 10k rpm
Windows Vista x64 SP1
Forceware 177.35

3DMark06:
(Total/SM2.0/SM3.0/CPU)
GTX 280 (177.35 - 615/1350/2214): 18415/7588/7885/5793
8800 GTX (169.28 - 612/1512/1900): 14129/5530/5721/5806
8800 GTS 512 (169.28 - 675/1674/1944): 14365/5928/5551/5781
9800 GX2 (174.74 - 650/1625/2000 ): 20172/8175/9143/5819

3DMark Vantage - Performance:
(Total/CPU/GPU)
GTX 280 (177.35 - 615/1350/2214): P11030/15840/10016
8800 GTX (175.12 - 612/1512/1900): P6659/15987/5575
9800 GX2 (175.12 - 650/1625/2000 ): P10437/15771/9380

3DMark Vantage - Extreme:
(Total/CPU/GPU)
GTX 280 (177.35 - 615/1350/2214): X5256/16018/5077
8800 GTX (175.12 - 612/1512/1900): X2444/15926/2340

Crysis:
GPU Bench 1 - DX9 HP UHQ Config & Natural Mod 2.0.2 1920x1080 0xAA Fullscreen, no Bloom, 3rd loop
(MIN/MAX/AVG)
GTX 280 (177.35 - 615/1350/2214): 24.60/48.46/34.77
9800 GX2 (175.63 - 600/1500/2000 ): 20.17/53.89/35.75
9800 GX2 (174.74 - 600/1500/2000 ): 28.70/55.58/42.35

DMC4 Demo:
1920x1080 4xMSAA, 16xAF, maxed out
GTX 280 (177.35 - 615/1350/2214):
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1904/devilmaycry4trialdx9200jd0.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=devilmaycry4trialdx9200jd0.jpg)

This card is, in a worst case scenario, a GX2 without disadvantages. MIN frames and overall framerate consistency are much better than with a GX2 though!


Awesome and congratulations dude.

Bman212121
06-19-08, 11:31 AM
Yep looks like it, If only Crysis would scale so well!!


Crysis:
1920x1200 2xAA, Very High, DX10
GX2 Quad SLI = 23FPS
Single GTX 280 = 18FPS
GTX 280 2-way = 34FPS
GTX 280 3-way = 46FPS


http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=114867

It does scale almost as good, you just need to have the cards loaded down.

Bman212121
06-19-08, 11:32 AM
Thanks man :)

So how about some TDU fps?? :captnkill:

Ninja Prime
06-19-08, 03:51 PM
9800 GX2 (175.63 - 600/1500/2000 ): 20.17/53.89/35.75
9800 GX2 (174.74 - 600/1500/2000 ): 28.70/55.58/42.35


Now thats odd. Drastically lower performance from newer drivers? Like 18% just off the top of my head.

Did they lower performance of Gx2's via drivers so the GTX 280 looked better, or whats going on there?

Shocky
06-19-08, 04:53 PM
Just got done installng my GTX280, tried UT3 and Mass Effect, both are now running very nicely at 1920*1200 with 4xAA, also tried world in confict, performance jump there is very nice indeed over my 8800GTX, I might have to replay it all over again. :)

Will try some other games and overclocking tomorrow,

Blacklash
06-19-08, 05:37 PM
Here's my first swipe @ Vantage with a single GTX 280. It was @ 665|2300. Driver 177.35.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1760/vantagegtx2803ei5.jpg

validation
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=179210

I'll have gaming results and other benches later.

Shocky
06-19-08, 06:03 PM
Ok, not so happy right now. Tried GTX 280 with Crysis and the noise from the fan/card is ridiculous, fan continually spins up and down which makes it even more irritating, plus thereís a weird stutter to the game, oh and to top it off it reached 105C :headexplode:

I might return it, this just isnít acceptable, much worse than even the fan on my old X1900XTX and hotter.

mailman2
06-19-08, 06:15 PM
Ok, not so happy right now. Tried GTX 280 with Crysis and the noise from the fan/card is ridiculous, fan continually spins up and down which makes it even more irritating, plus thereís a weird stutter to the game, oh and to top it off it reached 105C :headexplode:

I might return it, this just isnít acceptable, much worse than even the fan on my old X1900XTX and hotter.

EVGA GTX 280 FTW - FTL :D

Blacklash
06-19-08, 08:04 PM
I was just trying Jericho with AA enabled. Heavy smoke plus AA would drop my old 8800GTX to 32FPS at times. Lowest I've seen so far with this card is 54FPS @ 1680x with AA and all high. Most often I am between 65-91FPS.

AoC with bloom enabled all high @ 1680x 8xAA|16xAF has been 42-120FPS. That's in Khemi and Khopshef. FPS near water is way better with this card. Game's been running smooth.

I also tried the pool room in TRL with next gen and AA enabled @ 1680x. I shoot from one end to the other to catch all the HDR. My 8800GTX did 46FPS there, this card does 90.

G-Man
06-19-08, 08:06 PM
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amdradeonhd4850preview_061908005229/17119.png

ati $200 gpu outscores gtx 260 ;/

XxDeadlyxX
06-19-08, 08:37 PM
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amdradeonhd4850preview_061908005229/17119.png

ati $200 gpu outscores gtx 260 ;/

Something must be wrong with those numbers... 260 GTX is faster than 9800GTX...

Blacklash
06-19-08, 09:06 PM
ati $200 gpu outscores gtx 260 ;/

In one bench according to AT.

FS has a preview up of the HD 4850 too and they have it losing in Bioshock to the 9800GTX at every resolution-

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_radeon_hd_4850_geforce_9800_gtx+/page7.asp

According to Anandtech it "outscores" the GTX 260 in Bioshock. It does not in; Crysis, CoD4, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Assassin's Creed, Oblivion, and TheWitcher.

Like always sometimes Crossfire looks great and when AFR fails, it fails badly.

Little scaling-
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7513/17098da6.png (http://imageshack.us)

Bad to no scaling-
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/4517/17101dl0.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9065/17102vu1.png (http://imageshack.us)

If I had my heart set on Multi-GPU it would be two 8800GTS 512Mb cards. They are over at newegg for 160usd with rebate each. nVidia uses more than one form of AFR and consequentially SLi will likely work more often in titles than Crossfire.

I've used Multi-GPU, SLi and Crossfire. I vastly prefer a single strong GPU and to each their own on that matter.

For a card to be "faster" in my book it needs to win more than it loses. For it to be a winner on another level, it also needs to offer up consistent performance.

I do think the HD 4850 looks like a darn good card considering the price, and I wouldn't bother with Crossfire personally. I've already outlined a few reasons why not and may add; micro stutter, poor min FPS and wild FPS fluctuations.

Blacklash
06-19-08, 11:51 PM
Here's a couple of quick grabs from the Crysis demo in foliage.

All high DX9 @ 1680x 8xAF 52FPS
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6932/crysisallhightm1.jpg

All high DX9 @ 1680x 4xAA|8xAF 34FPS
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/513/crysis4aahighwf2.jpg

TRL Croft Manor pool room with next gen+AA 90FPS. I got 46 there with my old 8800GTX-
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/3843/trl2008nextgenaaov7.jpg

Crysis all very high with 8xAF was mid 20s. So not very hot. 26FPS was typical with dips to 23. There wasn't a lot of variation at all.

DiRT caps in a bit. Every game I've tried so far has been smooth. No hitching or hard FPS crashes/drops.

Here's DiRT, 1680x 4xAA|8xAF. I did all Ultra and then all High. Besides FPS differences I could really tell in game.

Ultra- shows 41-57 on tracks 1 and 3.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2673/dirtdemou1zl4.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8543/dirtdemou2vh9.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1843/dirtdemou3gx8.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6796/dirtdemou4mo9.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/7691/dirtdemou5ir2.jpg
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6250/dirtdemou6os6.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3941/dirtdemou6aqg0.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6976/dirtdemou7ahj6.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1795/dirtdemou8aav8.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8935/dirtdemou9apj1.jpg

High- shows 55-78FPS on tracks 1 and 3.
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8404/dirtdemoh11le3.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6333/dirtdemoh1qg7.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4113/dirtdemoh2qw9.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/516/dirtdemoh3bz4.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9251/dirtdemoh4vw6.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9168/dirtdemoh7zb4.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/61/dirtdemoh8ka0.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2993/dirtdemoh9ir8.jpg
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8348/dirtdemo2008h10dt3.jpg

All Ultra use to murder my 8800GTX @ 1680x with 4xAA.

EDIT:

The WiC bench 1680x-

Very high
min 26 avg 47 max 94
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4456/wicvhgm2.jpg

High
min 29 avg 61 max 137
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5959/wichlb2.jpg

Medium
min 52 avg 95 max 220
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3497/wicmyq0.jpg

I tried the Crysis bench will all very high at 1680x and the last loop reported avg 27FPS. The first loop was avg 22FPS.

No chop and no stutter with the GTX 280 on any tests.