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gungygussit
07-09-08, 05:46 AM
A bit of good news, I spoke with BFG again after getting my 2nd replacement card - The guy I spoke with said he'll escalate the issue directly to nVidia for help, as he can't find any reason as to why the card would overheat so badly under any form of stress, unless the system ambient temperature was over 60 degrees (mines 30).

Watch this space for a response from nVidia I guess...

particleman
07-10-08, 08:50 AM
I don't know what is going on with nVidia's quality control but it has got to improve. I mean looking at the poll on this forum it looks like around half the 280's are bad. Having exchanged one my personal experience seems to reflect this 50% defect rate.

nVidia is going to see a massive decline in profits this quarter, pricing pressure from ATi, a massive and expensive chip to produce, and a very high defect rate, make for a bad combination.

I'm sure their partners aren't very pleased with them right now either, having to drop the price of their cards to compete so soon, and having to RMA so many cards.

AT1st
07-10-08, 12:23 PM
Hi,
I think my 280gtx died on me and need your help to confirm that.
I got an asus 280gtx 2 days ago, it worked well on day one (played ~3 hours crysis, fear and et:qw without problems - didn't monitor the temperatures, the fan got pretty loud in crysis, though)
but yesterday after 1 hour of et:qw it suddenly gave me a black screen with red lines. After reboot I got the red lines and a bsod in windows (which vanishes too fast to read it), strangely a 2nd reboot removed the lines and all worked normal again. But after 5 minutes of playing it crashed again. All I can do since then is to boot until the desktop should be loaded and then, either a bluescreen is shown very shortly (can't read it) or it just hangs. Those red lines won't go away again. (I reinstalled/reconnected the card to no avail).

A picture I took during boot is attached.

Anybody seen such a behavior and can confirm the card is broken or any ideas what other factor could cause this problem, please?

I got a thermaltake 750W psu, asus p5k board and my 8800gtx works fine right now.

wollyka
07-10-08, 01:20 PM
my guess is VRAM GDDR3 has gone bad
i advice to RMA the card

gungygussit
07-10-08, 03:48 PM
I've been harrasing BFG some more, this is the reply I got today...

"I would be surprised if Nvidia actually lets us or you know about fixing the problem. It will more then likely just be part of a driver update."

Not so impressive, I don't doubt or hate the BFG man, honesty is key! - But nVidia are taking le piss, right now I've got my 2nd dud card, can't really use it in anything beyond 2d - and i'm down £450, I am in a situation and don't really know what to do.

Revs
07-10-08, 03:55 PM
You could ask them if they would test the card prior to shipping it to you. If you point out you'll be wanting a refund if you get another dud one I'm sure they'll oblige.

Revs
07-10-08, 04:00 PM
Hi,
I think my 280gtx died on me and need your help to confirm that.
I got an asu....

Welcome to the form, bud :).

I'd say your 280 is totally ****ed :(. I've never seen corruption during POSTing before. RMA it asap.

spajdr
07-10-08, 04:01 PM
Hi,
I think my 280gtx died on me and need your help to confirm that.
I got an asus 280gtx 2 days ago, it worked well on day one (played ~3 hours crysis, fear and et:qw without problems - didn't monitor the temperatures, the fan got pretty loud in crysis, though)
but yesterday after 1 hour of et:qw it suddenly gave me a black screen with red lines. After reboot I got the red lines and a bsod in windows (which vanishes too fast to read it), strangely a 2nd reboot removed the lines and all worked normal again. But after 5 minutes of playing it crashed again. All I can do since then is to boot until the desktop should be loaded and then, either a bluescreen is shown very shortly (can't read it) or it just hangs. Those red lines won't go away again. (I reinstalled/reconnected the card to no avail).

A picture I took during boot is attached.

Anybody seen such a behavior and can confirm the card is broken or any ideas what other factor could cause this problem, please?

I got a thermaltake 750W psu, asus p5k board and my 8800gtx works fine right now.

Interesting, if you switch off PC and leave it for like 15-30 minutes then run it again, does it still does these red lines?

AT1st
07-10-08, 04:52 PM
Interesting, if you switch off PC and leave it for like 15-30 minutes then run it again, does it still does these red lines?No that doesn't help. After it happened yesterday and I couldn't boot anymore I reinstalled my 8800gtx to search the web for information.
I reinstalled the 280 today, after I came from work, and the lines were there instantly. So it can't be a heat problem.

Thx guys for the replies. I guess I will send it back tomorrow. :(

saturnotaku
07-10-08, 07:52 PM
First eVGA 280 would get up to 105 degrees in Crysis within about 5 minutes, causing it to throttle and stutter like crazy. Just got the RMA replacement and it gets to about 87 with smooth performance all the way. Furmark pegs the new card in the 96-98 range after about 20 minutes with no throttling or artifacts. Next step is to work on case airflow. I'm probably going to add a couple fans to keep things moving, but the replacement card seems to be working as it should...for now.

MikeC
07-11-08, 06:21 AM
Watch this space for a response from nVidia I guess...I've received confirmation from NVIDIA that they are aware of the problem and it is being investigated. I brought this thread to their attention a couple of weeks ago.

I've purchased hardware that ended up being defective as well, but I can't imagine the frustration when the replacement unit is also defective. It's certainly a tough situation for the consumer to be in - especially when others are not experiencing the same problem.

gersson
07-11-08, 08:34 AM
Hey I just registered to say that I am having the Overheating issue too :(

I was so excited when I started up my PC. After playing Crysis for ~5 mins I noticed that the game was stuttering and that the fan on the card was pulsating.
I fired (no pun intended) up Hardware monitor and saw that the max temps were @ 106*C!
Got an RMA from newegg -- hope the next card is a good one. If not I WILL buy a 4870X2.

LBJM
07-11-08, 12:14 PM
I just got another GTX 280 straight from evga's RMA dept and it still runs at 105C

Lfctony
07-11-08, 12:42 PM
Furmark with 16x MSAA reveals the problem in seconds...

heatlesssun
07-11-08, 12:50 PM
I'm using HWMonitor to measure temps with my three GTX 280's. I've oc'ed them to 660/1420/1150 and even after an hour of Crysis I'm only hitting about 85C on the hottest one.

I wonder if there is a sensor problem here.

Lfctony
07-11-08, 12:56 PM
Maybe, but cards shut down because they hit 120c "supposedly" within a couple of minutes...

DBEST1
07-12-08, 05:16 AM
Has anyone tried to over clock the BFG GTX280 OC2 ?

saturnotaku
07-12-08, 08:14 AM
I re-worked some of my cabling, moved one of my HDDs to a different bay, and added one of those PCI slot exhaust fans (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=39598&CatId=804). Card now runs about 6-8 degrees cooler. Furmark maxes out at 90-92 degrees. Haven't tried Crysis, but it should show a corresponding decrease as well.

LBJM
07-12-08, 04:45 PM
I re-worked some of my cabling, moved one of my HDDs to a different bay, and added one of those PCI slot exhaust fans (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=39598&CatId=804). Card now runs about 6-8 degrees cooler. Furmark maxes out at 90-92 degrees. Haven't tried Crysis, but it should show a corresponding decrease as well.

try using the humanhead demo run it for 15mins and then see what your temps are like.

saturnotaku
07-12-08, 09:08 PM
try using the humanhead demo run it for 15mins and then see what your temps are like.

Then you got another bad card. Attached image is of RivaTuner temps after 30 minutes of Human Head. Card never got above 85 for me.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5359/gtx280humanheadjy5.th.gif (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtx280humanheadjy5.gif)

DBEST1
07-13-08, 04:11 PM
i am in love with this card,,i have crysis running on full spec and its jst chewing it up, glad i waited to upgrade since my 7950GT !!! truely amazing...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA-ZgS79jys

LBJM
07-14-08, 05:58 PM
Then you got another bad card. Attached image is of RivaTuner temps after 30 minutes of Human Head. Card never got above 85 for me.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5359/gtx280humanheadjy5.th.gif (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtx280humanheadjy5.gif)

yes I know that, but I'm not doing another rma until they fix this issue or the card drops dead.

AT1st
07-22-08, 05:19 PM
Hi
just wanted to update you on my fate :)

I sent back the asus and got a point of view in return cause the asus model was out of stock (pov is 20€ cheaper and even packed with assassins creed)
Everything seems fine now. Doesn't get over ~75° in crysis even with "only" 70% fan speed.

zeejay
07-24-08, 11:02 AM
From reading this thread it sounds like i got a Dud, My eVGA Gtx 280 SC that i just got last night, gets up to 105c within a minute or 2 in every game then starts to throttle. my 8800gtx never hits above 72 or so in the same Case.

Guess im gonna start my RMA process today :thumbdwn:.

Lfctony
07-24-08, 11:29 AM
From reading this thread it sounds like i got a Dud, My eVGA Gtx 280 SC that i just got last night, gets up to 105c within a minute or 2 in every game then starts to throttle. my 8800gtx never hits above 72 or so in the same Case.

Guess im gonna start my RMA process today :thumbdwn:.


You should, it sounds like you got a bad card...