View Full Version : Opinions please!

07-01-08, 11:33 PM
Got the chance to upgrade on the cheap if my sales go through next week.

Planning intel, X48 and hd 4870, and I have never owned intel or ati so I am kinda unsure about my choices.

First the psu's..



Both good and what i need but never owned either brand??

The CPU's

Now this will be my gaming rig, but I want to dual boot it and will encode video on my linux install..

1.) E8400/E8500 cheap, fast, cool, oc's well. ;)

2.) Q9550 not cheap, fast, unlocked multi's/ oc's well too :)

3.) X3350 mid range priced, oc well, and runs cool

I have pretty much decided on an asus rampage with gskill or muskin ddr2 1066.

Only thing I am really doubting myself on is the CPU. Is the q9550 worth the price tag, or can the x3350 come even close to it?

Is the e8500 worth the extra money over the e8400?

Which psu would you suggest comparable to the two I have posted? Keep in mind I will get a second hd 4870 in the next month when I have the cheese.(or something better comes out)

07-02-08, 08:53 AM
no one :(

07-02-08, 09:39 AM
Pc p&c PSU + X48 + Q9450.

If I were to spend the cash this is what I'd grab. Unless you have loads of cash, or the video encoding is for work and has to meet deadlines, the Q9450 wallops it in terms of price/performance point.

The premium for the E8500 isn't worth it when the E8400 overclocks so sweetly, but again, the video work would benefit more from a quad.

Just my 2 cents. :)

EDIT: can't comment on the 4870 as I've never owned one, but reviews are showing decent bang for the buck. Have you researched ATI support on linux recently? Or have you mastered fglrx? :D

07-02-08, 09:43 AM
if you going to do any encoding, don't even bother with Dual core, go for quad without any questions.

btw, ATI support on linux has always been poor.

07-02-08, 01:08 PM
Exactly what I was thinking on the CPU, and I think I can afford the Q9550, even though it seems like a lot for unlocked multis.

As for ati and linux phoronix (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ati_radeonhd_4850&num=1) has a good review. ATI drivers have come a long way in the last year on nix, the 4800's even ship with linux drivers. :)

They did some benches and it wasn't all that impressive in the games they used to test, but I could care less about 3d acceleration.

Right now as it stands today with the latest nvidia module and my 8800gt I still can't browse a web page without screen tearing. 2D is the suck for me and many others.

Thanks for the input guys.:thumbsup:

07-02-08, 01:26 PM
E8400 is a great CPU! I also love my X38 motherboard. X48 is too much as DDR3 is still far too expensive. I'll go DDR3 in late 2009 with the 32nm shrink of Nehalem. It'll be cheaper then anyways.

07-02-08, 01:45 PM
Asus rampage is X48 ddr2.:p

I do agree they will have to pull me kicking and screaming away from the now cheap ddr2.

07-02-08, 02:03 PM
I chose the E8400 in a similar upgrade last month.

OC's to 3.6gz easily. (2 easy bios settings)

I don't use AV editing software so the additional cores in the quad wouldn't do much for me today. Tomorrow? who knows. Maybe I'll upgrade to a quad next year IF my preferred apps support true multi-core.

CPU speed does matter, up to a point. After that point some other element in your rig will become the bottleneck. Those unlocked CPU's are bragging rights only, unless you can build and maintain top of the line across the entire system spec.

Double the cost for only 5-10% improvements? not worth it IMHO.

I could push my system higher, but all the benches I've read show only trivial additional performance gains. I've become GPU limited again in gaming (8800GTX-OC). In anything else, 1-2 seconds faster or slower is meaningless.

If you game, spend extra on the video component first.

my rig:
E8400 @ 3.6g
4G DDR2 1066
Asus Rampage Formula
Samsung 245B WS LCD
Zalman 9700-NT cooler
Thermaltake Armour case
SB Audigty 2ZS

07-02-08, 02:22 PM
If I do go with the E8400 I would have the money to WC the cards and CPU. Hmmm