Nvidia "opens can of whoop-ass" on itself

[Ghola]

I wonder whats really wrong? http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/02/nvidia-opens-whoop-ass-itself - yeah yeah I know Inq, but where else you gonna notice something fast....

[CaptNKILL]

Hmm...

Those seem like some pretty big claims.

[Mr_LoL]

Charlie Demerjian is an idiot. He hates Nvidia becuase he never gets invited to their events. I am sure he wrote this piece of news with his trousers down pumping away furiously like an ape. All his Nvidia bashing is getting old.

[Redeemed]

Charlie Demerjian is an idiot. He hates Nvidia becuase he never gets invited to their events. I am sure he wrote this piece of news with his trousers down pumping away furiously like an ape. All his Nvidia bashing is getting old.

:rofl

He makes it sound as if they risk going bankrupt! :lol:

Anyhow, I'm sure nVidia *is* going to lose marketshare and ATi will gain some this time around, and possibly even with the next generation. If I recall correctly the RV870 (R800 generation) will be the last to utilise the R600 architecture. After that it's going to be entirely new from the ground up.

I honestly can't say how much of that article was true, but I am excited and the growth ATi will more than likely see this year. :)

[Villa]

Reuters article, stock down 25%

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSN0242556420080702

Notebook chips failing

http://reseller.co.nz/reseller.nsf/inews/097029E66FCDB932CC25747B000E02BD

[Redeemed]

:lol:

I shouldn't laugh at this news, but it just seems funny. You'd think nVidia would have learned the first time. Although, I'd say the GTX 200 series are far better cards than the FX were...

[Runningman]

Reuters article, stock down 25%

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSN0242556420080702
News flash, the entire stock market is down 25%, this is inline with the rest of the street. Nothing to see here.

[Villa]

I am not even sure why this is in the Rumor Mill, it all seems to be true.

[hell_of_doom227]

I'm not sure what's so great about HD4870. Card sucks compared to GTX280. GTX260 is like $329 and it's better then HD4870.

[rhink]

Dude, it's the inquirer, those are the same guys that preached for many months prior to the 8800 release that it wouldn't be a unified architecture, ATI's stuff would be though, so ATI was gonna clean NVIDIA's clock, blah blah blah. There may indeed be some bad news for nvidia with defective parts, however, it takes a huge amount of unfounded speculation to stretch that into all this gloom and doom for the company.

[Villa]

I'm not sure what's so great about HD4870. Card sucks compared to GTX280. GTX260 is like $329 and it's better then HD4870.


yes, that would be why Nvidia is cutting there prices.

[Redeemed]

I'm not sure what's so great about HD4870. Card sucks compared to GTX280. GTX260 is like $329 and it's better then HD4870.

:wtf:

Check out these 4850 benchmarks:

Here (http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ati-radeon-hd-4850-review-force-3d--powercolor/11) the 4850 either matches or outperforms the 9800GTX which is only marginally (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3334&p=11) slower than the GTX 260.

And as you can see here (http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=13) in Anand's review the 4870 typically outperforms the GTX 260 and falls just behind the GTX280. Furthermore, in that same review, the 4850 is seldom very far behind the GTX260, though it costs about $160 less!

If you cannot see the value in the HD4000 series, you've got some issues. Furthermore, throw two 4870s together (the 4870X2) and run Quad-CrossFire you'd have a platform that's untouchable in regards to performance (theoretically it *should* outperform even 3x GTX 280s) while costing considerably less than 3x GTX 280s and consuming less power than 3x GTX 280s.

Really, what is there NOT to like about ATI's new cards?

[Heinz68]

News flash, the entire stock market is down 25%, this is inline with the rest of the street. Nothing to see here.
News flash, you didn't get the point.

The REUTERS (http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSN0242556420080702?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=10216) article was about the last closing price 25 percent tumble.
In late electronic trading, shares slid to $13.55 after closing at $18.03, down 4 percent on Nasdaq.

Separately, the company said it would take a charge of $150 million to $200 million in its second quarter to cover anticipated warranty, repair and return costs associated with a defect on some of its chips.

The charge would be to cover expected warranty, repair, return, replacement and other costs, arising from a weak packaging material used in some of its previous generation graphics chip products sold in notebook PCs.

When Nvidia reported first-quarter results, its revenue rose 37 percent, but the shares fell initially after results missed analyst expectations.

The stock rebounded then after Burkett's comments about the second quarter, which is historically been difficult for the Santa Clara, California-based company to forecast.

(Reporting by Duncan Martell; editing by Jeffrey Benkoe and Andre Grenon)

Even at the last closing price $18.03 the stock was already down 43.33 percent from the high value $39.67 at October 18,2007.

Here is the link (http://www.thestreet.com/quote/NVDA.html?omorig=story&puc=tickerembedded) but the figures are not going to be same after stock market opens.

Anyway we all know AMD/ATI has much bigger financial problems than NVIDIA but it looks like they might slowly recover at least i hope so.

[CaptNKILL]

Charlie Demerjian is an idiot. He hates Nvidia becuase he never gets invited to their events. I am sure he wrote this piece of news with his trousers down pumping away furiously like an ape. All his Nvidia bashing is getting old.

:lol2:

Oh man, that's a great mental picture...

:rofl

[Amuro]

Nvidia has already lost this round. I'll be getting a 4870X2 when it comes out, and another in Q4 for crossfire when Bloomfiled and the X58 chipset based boards come out.

[slaWter]

Nvidia has already lost this round. I'll be getting a 4870X2 when it comes out, and another in Q4 for crossfire when Bloomfiled and the X58 chipset based boards come out.

Maybe I'll do the same but I'm still not sure about Crossfire and driver support.

[Runningman]

News flash, you didn't get the point.

The REUTERS (http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSN0242556420080702?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=10216) article was about the last closing price 25 percent tumble.


Even at the last closing price $18.03 the stock was already down 43.33 percent from the high value $39.67 at October 18,2007.

Here is the link (http://www.thestreet.com/quote/NVDA.html?omorig=story&puc=tickerembedded) but the figures are not going to be same after stock market opens.

Anyway we all know AMD/ATI has much bigger financial problems than NVIDIA but it looks like they might slowly recover at least i hope so.
Newsflash, YOU didnt get the point. This is nothing more then a blip on the radar screen and is just a move by the big boys (market makers)that devalued the stock in one day, anyways money is moving out of the stock markets and into commodites. Thats what this is about nothing more nothing less.

[Ghola]

http://reseller.co.nz/reseller.nsf/inews/097029E66FCDB932CC25747B000E02BD

"Nvidia will take a charge against second-quarter earnings of US$150 million to $200 million to cover the expected cost of repairing and replacing the products, which include graphics processing units and media and communications processors. It didn't say specifically which of its products were affected."

I wonder whats broken that they're not disclosing? (which old GPU's are they?)

[saturnotaku]

Maybe I'll do the same but I'm still not sure about Crossfire and driver support.

If it's anything like the Radeon 38xx series, it won't be good.

[Tr1cK]

http://reseller.co.nz/reseller.nsf/inews/097029E66FCDB932CC25747B000E02BD

"Nvidia will take a charge against second-quarter earnings of US$150 million to $200 million to cover the expected cost of repairing and replacing the products, which include graphics processing units and media and communications processors. It didn't say specifically which of its products were affected."

I wonder whats broken that they're not disclosing?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20080703/tc_pcworld/147911

It's like the RROD, but for laptop GPUs.

[nekrosoft13]

Maybe I'll do the same but I'm still not sure about Crossfire and driver support.

crossfire is in worst shape then SLi

[nekrosoft13]

what what mobile chips are affected, 8600m GT??

[Ghola]

I hope not cause thats what I use, no probs here so far.

[slaWter]

crossfire is in worst shape then SLi

I know. And nVidia has better developer relationships. The X2 has to be much better than the GTX 280, otherwise I'm not even considering it.

[nekrosoft13]

i'm quite happy with the GTX 280 right now, plus it would take something huge to get me away from nHancer.

I just love that app, there never was a better simpler way to change options.