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GeeTeeEx
07-10-08, 08:51 PM
Which of the new/upcoming cards won't be bottlenecked by my AMD athlon x2 6000 cpu?

Thanks.

Medion
07-10-08, 09:13 PM
The higher end you go, the more the CPU will be the bottleneck. The lower end you go, the more the GPU will be the bottleneck. Just get a newer GPU, and crank the visual settings. What's your budget?

skoprowski
07-11-08, 08:59 AM
Depends on what resolution you play at too. A 260XT would be great, but you could also get away with a 9800GTX. I have the same cpu as you and also and game at 1680 x 1050 with a 8800GTX. THe 9800GTX would be fine for what you want.

bacon12
07-11-08, 10:27 AM
Is any card gonna make a 3ghz dual core processor bottleneck? I could see maybe sli or tri sli gtx's, but I doubt any single card will.

Lfctony
07-11-08, 10:51 AM
4870... At that price point, how can anyone get something else?

jolle
07-11-08, 10:52 AM
4870... At that price point, how can anyone get something else?
From the pricing here, IŽd say its the new 8800GT.
Awesome performance at a great price.

SH64
07-11-08, 11:16 AM
I'd go with the 4850 too.

GeeTeeEx
07-12-08, 12:27 AM
hmm... i see more ati recommendations, but are their drivers really trustworthy? ive heard enough bad things about ati drivers from forums/friends/etc

Mr Bigman
07-12-08, 12:36 AM
I got 2 of the 4870 in CF with a phenom and for that rig, its pretty damn close to my dual cpu intel setup with 2 gx2's.

Both cpu and gpu are very little to wurry about since most of todays cpus are fast enough anyway.

CaptNKILL
07-12-08, 12:44 AM
Is any card gonna make a 3ghz dual core processor bottleneck? I could see maybe sli or tri sli gtx's, but I doubt any single card will.

Depending on the situation and the game, any system can have a CPU bottleneck with a decent card.

Really all you can do is get the best components you can afford. A 6000+ isn't top of the line, nor is it even with a 3Ghz Core 2 duo, but its well above the minimum and recommended requirements for any game I know of.

I'd just get the best card you can afford so that later on if\when you upgrade your CPU you won't have an underpowered graphics card dragging it down.

A 4850 is probably a hell of a card for the price though. I'd say it'd be a good match for your system.

If you can afford a GTX260 or 4870 though, those would be better... I'd personally recommend the 260 because of the extra memory.

... I guess I forgot to ask, what are you using now? If its anything in the 8800GTS\GT\GTX line or higher, I wouldn't really bother at this point.

GeeTeeEx
07-12-08, 01:13 AM
Depending on the situation and the game, any system can have a CPU bottleneck with a decent card.

Really all you can do is get the best components you can afford. A 6000+ isn't top of the line, nor is it even with a 3Ghz Core 2 duo, but its well above the minimum and recommended requirements for any game I know of.

I'd just get the best card you can afford so that later on if\when you upgrade your CPU you won't have an underpowered graphics card dragging it down.

A 4850 is probably a hell of a card for the price though. I'd say it'd be a good match for your system.

If you can afford a GTX260 or 4870 though, those would be better... I'd personally recommend the 260 because of the extra memory.

... I guess I forgot to ask, what are you using now? If its anything in the 8800GTS\GT\GTX line or higher, I wouldn't really bother at this point.

if your asking me, then my current card is an fx5500 LOL. piece of crap i know... i sold my 8800GTX a while ago and reverted back to this one during my nongaming hiatus. so yeah, anything at the moment would be a substantial upgrade XD

CaptNKILL
07-12-08, 01:36 AM
Oh wow... LOL

:p

I stick by what I said then. If you're going for the $200 and under range, a 4850 is a heck of a powerful card.

If you can go a bit higher, a 4870 is very fast but a GTX260 may last you longer because it has a much larger frame buffer.

Uberpwnage
07-12-08, 09:20 AM
When are the 1GB 4870's coming out? I was under the impression that most 4870's would be 1GB and most 4850's would be 512MB, but we have a 2GB 4850 and no 1GB 4870 :headexplode:

ChrisRay
07-12-08, 10:03 AM
It will depend largely on the settings and games. I've ran 3 way GTX SLI with a Phenom CPU with no trouble whatsoever and seen great scaling. It just depends on your application bottleneck and GPU settings. If your game is already limited by the CPU at your settings. Then additional GPU power will do you know good whatsoever. But if your limited by the GPU. Your range could vary greatly. The best way to determine your bottleneck is to do some resolution scaling and see if your gaining performance as you drop the GPU workload.

Chris

GeeTeeEx
07-12-08, 11:04 AM
thanks for the replies. maybe i should forget about upgrading, and consider instead a complete overhaul lol.

another q, ive seen 8 and 9 series go for pretty cheap (relatively) on ebay/craigslist, but is it not worth my money to get those and just stick to the gtx200 or 48xx series? and considering that i have a 500W ps, would the gtx200/48xx/9 series choke?

CaptNKILL
07-12-08, 11:37 AM
If you just want a cheap quick upgrade, an 8 or 9 series card would be fine. Though they may or may not have problems with a 500W power supply. Its hard to say. What brand and model of PSU is it?

If you want to do a complete overhaul (I don't think its really necessary yet myself) you'll definitely want to get something better than an 8 or 9 series.

GeeTeeEx
07-12-08, 01:47 PM
If you just want a cheap quick upgrade, an 8 or 9 series card would be fine. Though they may or may not have problems with a 500W power supply. Its hard to say. What brand and model of PSU is it?

If you want to do a complete overhaul (I don't think its really necessary yet myself) you'll definitely want to get something better than an 8 or 9 series.

its the antec earthwatts 500W psu. do you think gtx260/4870/9800gtx/8800ultra will work on this? (those are my choices for now lol...)

bacon12
07-12-08, 01:55 PM
I am running my gtx 260 with a pretty good overclock, an e8400@ 3.4, and two hdd's without any power issues on a 540w enermax.

XFX suggested at least a 630w PSU for the card, but below it posted nvidia's specs of 500W.

Try it and see, I think you will be ok however you have a 125 watt CPU, so that may be different for you.

Heinz68
07-12-08, 02:08 PM
When are the 1GB 4870's coming out? I was under the impression that most 4870's would be 1GB and most 4850's would be 512MB, but we have a 2GB 4850 and no 1GB 4870 :headexplode:
According to this link (http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-5701-view-Powercolor-HD-4870-1Gb-memory.html) it looks like by the end of July.
Maybe I should have waited for that but first let's see how much the 1GB mem will make a difference for present games Crysis included.
EDIT:
PowerColor HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 is already listed at PowerColor (http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_layer_2.asp?SeriesID=1) product page. I'm sure we will soon see more from other ATI partners and some probably super-clocked versions.

Ninja Prime
07-12-08, 03:19 PM
PowerColor HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 is already listed at PowerColor (http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_layer_2.asp?SeriesID=1) product page. I'm sure we will soon see more from other ATI partners and some probably super-cloaked version

Stealth tech? Awesome. ;)

bacon12
07-12-08, 04:09 PM
Cloak Engaged.

Heinz68
07-12-08, 04:26 PM
Cloak Engaged.
Cloak FTW. (nana2)