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Maverickman
07-15-08, 10:12 AM
It looks like AMD keeps putting the heat on Nvidia. The GTX 280 will soon go for $449, the GTX 260 will stay at $299, and the 9800 GTX+ will go for $199.

Here are the contestants:

GeForce GTX 280 vs. Radeon HD 4870 X2

GeForce GTX 260 vs. Radeon HD 4870

GeForce 9800 GTX+ vs. Radeon HD 4850


The GTX 280 will lose to the HD 4870 X2 in almost every case except Crysis. However, the GTX 280 will be priced about $100 lower. Let's see what Nvidia does if AMD can get the 4870X2 to launch at $499! We may see that GTX 280 going for $399 very soon!!

The GTX 260 vs. the HD 4870 is a toss up with each winning in different games and settings.

The 9800 GTX+ vs. the HD 4850 is also a close call, but I'd give the overall nod to the HD 4850.


This price war is definitely welcome for us gamers. However, it will definitely impact the bottom line of both companies, possibly causing AMD to go out of business. Still, let's enjoy these prices while we can!(nana2)



http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=301451

nekrosoft13
07-15-08, 11:02 AM
wonder when will that reflect on store prices

Heinz68
07-15-08, 11:10 AM
This price war is definitely welcome for us gamers. However, it will definitely impact the bottom line of both companies, possibly causing AMD to go out of business. Still, let's enjoy these prices while we can!(nana2)


I still see the HD 4870 selling at the same introduction price of about $300 and selling well.
So at least for now no need for price war there.
Also since NVIDIA manufacturing cost on the 200 series is much higher I wonder how much more they can reduce the price and still make money.

Xion X2
07-15-08, 11:34 AM
Why would any of this cause AMD/ATI to go out of business? They already have the price/performance wrapped up in the 4870, and at 4870x2 launch they have the fastest graphcs card on the market.

Both of those are attractive to the masses and will draw lots of revenue.

SH64
07-15-08, 11:35 AM
The GTX 280 will lose to the HD 4870 X2 in almost every case except Crysis.
Unfortunately , Crysis is what matters the most to me.

methimpikehoses
07-15-08, 11:41 AM
Unfortunately , Crysis is what matters the most to me.

Why?

nekrosoft13
07-15-08, 11:43 AM
Unfortunately , Crysis is what matters the most to me.


yap, crysis ranned like a dream on GTX 280.

SH64
07-15-08, 11:47 AM
Why?
1) Best graphics on any game so far.
2) A pretty good indication for all big upcoming known & unknown titles. (Alan Wake , Porject Offset .. etc)
3) All other games are running smooth on my 8800U already.

brady
07-15-08, 11:52 AM
1) Best graphics on any game so far.
2) A pretty good indication for all big upcoming known & unknown titles. (Alan Wake , Porject Offset .. etc)
3) All other games are running smooth on my 8800U already.

Yeah, I feel the same. My overclocked 8800GTX runs everything just fine. Actually, since I game on my HDTV at 1366x768 I can even run Crysis DX10 all VH, 0xAA, 0xAF with my GTX. I've decided against upgrading until something comes out that's more demanding than VH Crysis at the resolution I can play it at.

methimpikehoses
07-15-08, 12:06 PM
1) Best graphics on any game so far.
2) A pretty good indication for all big upcoming known & unknown titles. (Alan Wake , Porject Offset .. etc)
3) All other games are running smooth on my 8800U already.

The thing is, everyone talks about buying cards for the future, but half of the people here buy the latest and greatest once a year. :)

I'm hoping that upcoming games run better than Crysis. Surely it's possible. :o

Madpistol
07-15-08, 12:07 PM
yap, crysis ranned like a dream on GTX 280.

Ever since I completed it for the second time (one run on high, and one run tweaked to Very High), I haven't even touched it. In fact, I have no desire to see this game run better either... I just like playing games. My system plays them well, and that's all I need.

Also, if I ever get the money to get a new video card, I will probably give my money to ATI this time around. They've earned it. ;)

Maverickman
07-15-08, 12:11 PM
The price war will definitely affect Nvidia more than AMD. Still, AMD's stock has also been tanking lately. Intel has really put a hurt on AMD with the Core2 CPU.

nekrosoft13
07-15-08, 12:14 PM
The price war will definitely affect Nvidia more than AMD. Still, AMD's stock has also been tanking lately. Intel has really put a hurt on AMD with the Core2 CPU.

even more later this year with Nehalem

nekrosoft13
07-15-08, 12:16 PM
Ever since I completed it for the second time (one run on high, and one run tweaked to Very High), I haven't even touched it. In fact, I have no desire to see this game run better either... I just like playing games. My system plays them well, and that's all I need.

Also, if I ever get the money to get a new video card, I will probably give my money to ATI this time around. They've earned it. ;)

also finished it twice

first run with 8800gtx on dx9 tweaked medium/high/very high.

second run with gtx 280 on dx10 very high.

there are still bunch of new maps/levels that i want to play.

Heinz68
07-15-08, 01:20 PM
The price war will definitely affect Nvidia more than AMD. Still, AMD's stock has also been tanking lately. Intel has really put a hurt on AMD with the Core2 CPU.
First off all I don't see any price war by AMD, I only see big price reduction on the NViDIA 200 series

Talking about stock "tanking lately".
NVDIA (http://www.thestreet.com/quote/NVDA.html?omorig=story&puc=tickerembedded)..last 12 months 65.7% down
AMD (http://www.thestreet.com/quote/AMD.html?omorig=search).....last 12 months 35.4% down

Over all the NASDAQ (http://www.thestreet.com/quote/%5EIXIC.html) market is down 15.5%

I'm fully aware that AMD has more financial problems but it looks like NVIDIA is also not doing so great.

Anyway I sure wish them both much better days.

Madpistol
07-15-08, 02:00 PM
Yea. Don't forget about all the dying GPU's from nvidia. I'm not too thrilled since all 3 of my computers have Nvidia GPU's in them, 2 of which are over 3 years old.

Vanzagar
07-15-08, 02:16 PM
It looks like AMD keeps putting the heat on Nvidia. The GTX 280 will soon go for $449


It's $445 at Newegg now...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121252

rh

Thunderbolt56
07-15-08, 02:26 PM
This is only good news.

All you economic projectionists can speculate all you want. A GTX280 under $450USD is good news...period.

Sowk
07-15-08, 02:32 PM
Once the GTX 280 hits $300 each, then I will consider upgrading.

I need to sell my 2 8800GTX's for more then 1 GTX280, as 2 8800GTX's are faster then 1 GTX280 by a long shot.

saturnotaku
07-15-08, 02:36 PM
It's $445 at Newegg now...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121252

rh

That's after a $30 MIR.

It'll be something when the cards will be available for $450 without a MIR.

nekrosoft13
07-15-08, 02:49 PM
Yea. Don't forget about all the dying GPU's from nvidia. I'm not too thrilled since all 3 of my computers have Nvidia GPU's in them, 2 of which are over 3 years old.

that only affects older laptop GPUs

Heinz68
07-15-08, 03:01 PM
This is only good news.

All you economic projectionists can speculate all you want. A GTX280 under $450USD is good news...period.

"good news...period."
Sure for the customer. For Nvidia? I'm not so sure about that.

Xion X2
07-15-08, 03:08 PM
that only affects older laptop GPUs

He may have been referencing the hundreds of issues people are having with their 280s artifacting and soaring to temps over 100C.

Madpistol
07-15-08, 03:18 PM
that only affects older laptop GPUs

I have an FX 5200 laptop card.... :(

nekrosoft13
07-15-08, 03:22 PM
I have an FX 5200 laptop card.... :(

these troubles are heat related that might cause parts of chip to fail.

since the laptop is out, i would take it apart and make sure all dust from inside of it is cleaned out. build up of dust could speed up this process.

other then that watch temp.