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Heinz68
07-17-08, 04:48 AM
I kind off believed multi GPU video cards is the future at least at the top models.
If the technology by LUCIDLOGIX is so good, Intel might just buy them. Not so good news for AMD/ATI and NVIDIA.

ATI + Nvidia = Lucidlogix

By Paul Taylor: at theInquirer (http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/16/ati-nvidia-lucidlogix) Wednesday, 16 July 2008, 12:44 PM

ISRAELI OUTFIT LUCIDLOGIX Technologies is touting its brand-spanking-new Hydra Engine technology that will allow cross-branded GPUs to operate hand-in-hand. Sounds grand, doesn’t it?

This market-shaking feat is performed with the use of a dedicated SoC, dubbed the Hydra Engine, which distributes processing tasks to different GPUs and optimises data flow to and from each one, maximising (in theory) the potential performance per GPU. The firm uses some nifty data compression/decompression algorithms to simplify things, it says, in a cost-effective manner (although, as we all know, GPU economics reside in the Twilight Zone).

The claim is quite grand, as it states that this will allow you to throw a bunch of different graphics cards into the mix and get “near-linear to above-linear performance” across different GPUs. The Hydra Engine analyses and adapts on-the-fly to feed each GPU, creating parallel processing engines under any CPU, chipset and GPU combo.

A simple graph on the site shows several graphics cards wearing green and red colours (nudge nudge wink wink) fed by the Hydra Engine and outputting to a display. It’s pretty vague, if you ask us, especially since they don’t mention if you can combine the processing power of the GPUs.

As the technology is described as a “real time distributed processing engine”, and if their idea of distribution is anywhere close to CPU load balancing, it’s likely to be just distributing processes to the idlest GPU available. We don’t expect Hydra to SLI/Crossfire ATI and Nvidia GPUs into a single graphics processing behemoth, but rather keep things nice and tidy within the data path.

We called them up to get some clarification, but the prez was already on the phone with another inquisitive hack and was getting back to us “as soon as possible”. We’re waiting for that call.

In the meantime you can see that parallel processing is becoming big, both on CPUs and GPUs, and that a device of this nature could do a lot more than just improve “gaming” and “office computing”. We’re sure render farms would be more than happy to tap into this technology... and we’re quite sure there’s even a place for the IP within Intel’s own Larrabee or AMD’s Fusion.

Getting back to the details: the Hydra Engine can be soldered onto the motherboard or slotted as an add-in board, depending on what each partner will want to do. The technology will support OpenGL and DirectX and should be available through a number of said partners in early 2009.

If the firm isn’t gobbled up in the meantime, that is. Guess which chip maker has a stake through the company right now. Yeah, the one beginning with I. µ

The actual source for the article is LucidLogic (http://www.lucidlogix.com/)

Redeemed
07-17-08, 05:09 AM
I don't see this happening. There isn't anything to gain from either nVidia or ATi if they allowed this. I don't see this taking off at all. :(

walterman
07-17-08, 07:55 AM
Technically, it's a titanic work.

Heinz68
07-18-08, 05:35 PM
Looks like nobody believes in this Hydra Engine technology from LUCIDLOGIX.
I think maybe they have something since Intel invested some money there.

One thing I would bet my money on is that in near future all top graphic cards are going to be multi GPU. In what form I don't know maybe multi Core after all AMD has lot's of experience with it.

My logic is, they can't keep on adding more transistors and clocking them faster, even with shrinking the chips are not getting much smaller.
They all in business to make money and have to be competitive with the price.
Using multi GPU or multi Core is going to be better sollution.

josiahsuarez
07-19-08, 04:07 AM
nvidia/ati already have enough trouble getting good performance out of multiple exact same GPUs. getting GPUs of different types working together is just another level of added complexity.

might be useful for GPGPU HPC applications. definitely not for gamers though.

RejZoR
07-20-08, 04:47 AM
Technically, it's a titanic work.

It will most probably sink like Titanic too... (lee)

Arturia
07-24-08, 10:13 PM
My logic is, they can't keep on adding more transistors and clocking them faster, even with shrinking the chips are not getting much smaller.

Actually, die shrinks still have a way to go. The smallest they can get is 10nm before they begin leaking electricity, so multiple GPUs might not take a large foothold for quite a while.