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Ironmonk
07-22-08, 01:43 AM
Hello there. I just built a rig for the first time.
My problem is: every time i play a game, i get a fatal error after 5~15 minutes. I then need to terminate the application. Happens for Crysis, CoD4 and Counter-Strike Source (everything ive thrown at my comp so far).

I am unsure if this issue is GPU related... This forum came up on google search. I figured i could ask here:

(Again, 1st time i build a rig, but i think its all good since the OS runs smoothly).
Specs:

ASUS P5Q Pro, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, EVGA E-GEFORCE GTX 260 Superclocked, Silverstone Zeus ST75ZF 750W ATX12V 24PIN Power Supply, Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4

Running on windows xp 32bit Pro. Also got a vista x64 partition, but i havent tested it yet.


So anyone thinks the NVidia graphic drivers for 200 series are flawed?
I updated all my drivers anyway.

Thanks in advance if anyone can help.

particleman
07-22-08, 01:49 AM
Have you checked the temperatures? the GTX 200s are notorious for overheating issues. Try running Furmark with GPU-Z to monitor the temperature. Have you tested this rig with another video card? Or did you just put it together, if you just put it together it could be something else in your system.

Ironmonk
07-22-08, 01:53 AM
Have you checked the temperatures? the GTX 200s are notorious for overheating issues. Try running Furmark with GPU-Z to monitor the temperature. Have you tested this rig with another video card? Or did you just put it together, if you just put it together it could be something else in your system.

I just put it together.

Amuro
07-22-08, 02:02 AM
Have you checked your event viewer? It may give you some ideas as to what is causing the errors.

Ironmonk
07-22-08, 02:13 AM
Have you checked your event viewer? It may give you some ideas as to what is causing the errors.

No, I haven't. I would like to know how to be able to check this event viewer. (tryin to google it right now).

Lfctony
07-22-08, 02:18 AM
Go into Control panel, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer. Check the System and the Application logs.

Ironmonk
07-22-08, 02:23 AM
Go into Control panel, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer. Check the System and the Application logs.

Here are a few ones:

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Faulting application hl2.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module datacache.dll, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x0000b423.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 68 6c 32 ure hl2
0018: 2e 65 78 65 20 30 2e 30 .exe 0.0
0020: 2e 30 2e 30 20 69 6e 20 .0.0 in
0028: 64 61 74 61 63 61 63 68 datacach
0030: 65 2e 64 6c 6c 20 30 2e e.dll 0.
0038: 30 2e 30 2e 30 20 61 74 0.0.0 at
0040: 20 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 offset
0048: 30 30 30 30 62 34 32 33 0000b423
0050: 0d 0a ..
==

Faulting application crysis.exe, version 1.1.1.5767, faulting module crynetwork.dll, version 1.1.1.5767, fault address 0x00004ff7.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

==================

Faulting application crysis.exe, version 1.1.1.5767, faulting module cryentitysystem.dll, version 1.1.1.5767, fault address 0x00036f19.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

=============


System tab looks good...


Btw, im goin to sleep, work tomorrow!!! Thanks again!

ginfest
07-22-08, 08:17 AM
When I see multiple apps/games "faulting" out I immediately start with the basic cpu/fsb/memory settings (along with vcore and vmem) First, set everything on default, do a little research on your mainboard/cpu and DDR2 to get the basics. There is a lot of info about all those on the XtremeSystems forums.
I'd start there instead of worrying about the GPU and drivers.

nekrosoft13
07-22-08, 08:37 AM
two things

1) actually tell us the temps

2) since you have a PSU with quad rails, try to re-arrange power cables. could be over loading one of the rails.

Revs
07-22-08, 08:48 AM
Sound like the card could be overheating if you haven't increased the fan speed. Like Geralt said, we really need the temps.

Ironmonk
07-22-08, 12:11 PM
GPU doesnt go above 70°C according to EVGA precision utility. ( I did not overclock anything as well).

I think the problem is my ram, ill upload a screenshot of my bios settings...


http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7333/87121171nh0.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=87121171nh0.jpg)

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5017/82663373vc0.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=82663373vc0.jpg)

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4163/44166565hi9.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=44166565hi9.jpg)

Ironmonk
07-22-08, 12:34 PM
two things

1) actually tell us the temps

2) since you have a PSU with quad rails, try to re-arrange power cables. could be over loading one of the rails.

For the rails, 2 of the rails are 8pin and 2 are 6pin. Im using both 6pin and they have 18amp on each rail.

Yaboze
07-22-08, 12:52 PM
Sounds like memory to me. It could be faulty or incorrect settings.

I'd google memtest86, a memory tester that tests RAM outside of any OS, it just makes a boot disk. Download it, follow the instructions to make a boot floppy or bootable CD, then run it...overnight should be enough. If you can any failures in the tests (takes hours), then revisit your memory settings. Corsair has the Memory man guy on the forums which can help with timings/voltage.

If all clear then maybe try a new bios, reset settings to default and test again. The OS doesn't strain the system that much, that's why it's not cracking up, try opening a large .zip file or copy large amounts of data between 2 drives if you can. That can also stress things and be an indicator.

Also, download a 3rd party tool to check your GPU and CPU temps.

It could also be your power supply feeding the card as well. I had a PSU test fine on a tester and even boot up a system fine but it caused all kinds of instability. Swapping it out with another one fixed the issue.

grimreefer
07-23-08, 12:00 AM
crashes every 15 min u say?
run memtest for 15 min to check the ram.
run prime95 for 15 min to test the cpu.
run furmark for 15 min to test the graphics card.
you should be able to rule out certain components at that point based on successful completion.

Ironmonk
07-23-08, 01:29 AM
Update::

I just manually set the Dram voltage to 2.10 Volt like RAM GUY said in corsair forums. Been playing CoD4 for 4 hours straight, no crash!!!

Hopefully im not going to crash again :X

Lfctony
07-23-08, 02:10 AM
Cool. It's weird sometimes. My board for example detects my memory's default voltage at 1.9. They're rated at 1.8V. But I run them at 1.9V to be sure...