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sytaylor
07-28-08, 09:11 AM
I want to canvass opinion on nearly everything to do with LCDs to get some form of consensus

Money isn't an object in my next purchase but value is. I don't want something infeasibly large since I'm currently on a 19" CRT which I go way back with and love like a family member.

Initial thoughts are widescreen, used mainly for web browsing, movies and games (in that order).

So here it is, what brand? What tech spec? What size?

And most of all, what should I stay the hell away from.

Thanks nvnews for allowing me to pretend I'm still knowledgeable about hardware :p

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-096-SA

Bery good price, bery good performance?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-027-DE&groupid=703&catid=17&subcat=949&name=Dell%20SP2208WFP%2022%22%20Widescreen%20LCD%2 0Monitor%20with%20Webcam%20-%20Arctic%20Silver

Love that its silver, and the specs seem good for the price?

Revs
07-28-08, 10:43 AM
I've got myself a Samsung 46" 1080p LCD TV, which I game, browse and watch TV and flims on. IMO the beauty of having a TV over a monitor is LCD TV's have image processors which, if you are watching TV/Films, look alot better than a monitor. It still looks damn good running out of native res, too, which can look really bad on monitors. I also find I don't need to use DV because there are far more options to adjust the colour on the TV.

The only down-side for me is, because I sit about 1.5 meters away from the screen, I had to up the DPI in Vista, which on the whole works well, but there is the odd app/program that goes a bit funny when the DPI is increased. ie, incorrect spacing of text boxes, etc.

It's awesome gaming on a screen this big. It gives a greater sense of immersion. Although if it wasn't also my HT screen I'd have stuck with my computer desk and probably a 22-30" screen.

Imbroglio
07-28-08, 11:36 AM
i would try to stick with a 24" or 27" monitor. They will feel large at first, but you'll get used to them. I don't know about other people here, but anything larger than 27" when you are only a few feet away and it's too much. Not to disrespect the 30" at all, but it's no longer comfortable viewing, you will notice this especially coming from a 19". Basically stick with the good brands, (dell, benq, nec, etc) and avoid TN panels at all costs. You want an 8-bit panel, with 16.8 million colors (not 16.2 with dithering). Research the panel type first, to ensure you find something you'll be content with. That's essentially the basics, the rest is up to you.(nana2)

Revs
07-28-08, 12:03 PM
Also, be aware that responce times are usually a bit of a scam. Gray to gray responce time, which is what most of them use in their specs now-a-days, is different to black to black responce time, which is the correct way of measuring it. Also, the responce time is for the panel and doesn't take in to account the electronics that feed the panel, which can be a major weak link on budget monitors. I've seen monitors quoting 2ms responce times and there's no way in hell they were 2ms.

Best thing to do is see the screen in action. No-one wants to be stuck with a screen for 5 years that they're not happy with.

ViN86
07-28-08, 01:07 PM
24" is the best imo.

my monitor is seriously the best PC part that i have ever gotten. it runs at 1920x1200, which means it's perfect for 1080p, and the resolution is still low enough to game at the native resolution easily.

the screen has plenty of room and i love showing two windows side-by-side.

another thing i love about my Dell is that i have 5 inputs (Component, Composite, VGA, DVI, and S-Video), so it's great for displaying anything.

stevemedes
07-28-08, 04:01 PM
get a 26" doublesight IPS monitor. around $600-700 and pro image quality

stay away from tn panels imo.

here's a thread at [h] about the doublesight:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1268063&highlight=doublesight

hokeyplyr48
07-28-08, 08:47 PM
EDIT: nvm, sorry misunderstood thread

sytaylor
07-29-08, 06:54 AM
Food for thought.

Didn't think I'd find any consensus.

:p

Revs
07-29-08, 07:22 AM
Like most things, you get what you pay for..... and you don't get owt for nowt :D

mcolbourn
07-29-08, 08:12 AM
I can recomend this one for the price it is great.

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Displays/Monitors/TFT+24+%2B/24%22+Yuraku+Widescreen+LCD+Monitor+DVI+HDCP+?prod uctId=30640 (you may be able to find it a bit cheeper)

I have had mine now for over 3 months and love it to death it was a great upgrade from my old 20" Dell. And for the price you get a panel that comes from 500+ monitors.

Here is my post on it

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1650381&postcount=21

and another review of it

http://blog.equk.co.uk/pc-spec-2/yuraku-24-p-mva-hdcp/

stevemedes
07-29-08, 10:46 AM
I can recomend this one for the price it is great.

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Displays/Monitors/TFT+24+%2B/24%22+Yuraku+Widescreen+LCD+Monitor+DVI+HDCP+?prod uctId=30640 (you may be able to find it a bit cheeper)

I have had mine now for over 3 months and love it to death it was a great upgrade from my old 20" Dell. And for the price you get a panel that comes from 500+ monitors.

Here is my post on it

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1650381&postcount=21

and another review of it

http://blog.equk.co.uk/pc-spec-2/yuraku-24-p-mva-hdcp/

mva monitors are nice. the only downside is the gamma shift but its not THAT annoying. my LG 24" in a mva panel.

sytaylor
07-29-08, 12:24 PM
Thanks for this, I will seriously consider it.

Are the blacks/contrast issues noticeable? Or one of those things people who buy a new monitor every 6 months care about?

I can recomend this one for the price it is great.

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Displays/Monitors/TFT+24+%2B/24%22+Yuraku+Widescreen+LCD+Monitor+DVI+HDCP+?prod uctId=30640 (you may be able to find it a bit cheeper)

I have had mine now for over 3 months and love it to death it was a great upgrade from my old 20" Dell. And for the price you get a panel that comes from 500+ monitors.

Here is my post on it

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1650381&postcount=21

and another review of it

http://blog.equk.co.uk/pc-spec-2/yuraku-24-p-mva-hdcp/

mcolbourn
07-30-08, 06:20 AM
Are the blacks/contrast issues noticeable? Or one of those things people who buy a new monitor every 6 months care about?

Well when I went from my old S-IPS panel Dell to this S-PVA panel I did notice a bit of a difference in games etc but after a day or so I could not tell that it was different. But the extra res and size out weigh any minimal loss in image colour.

sytaylor
07-30-08, 08:51 AM
Buying it tomorrow :thumbsup:

sytaylor
08-04-08, 05:59 AM
So the monitor arrived... and I cannot for the love of money, get the colours right. The display accuracy is there, its clearly a high quality screen too. But certain bright colours seem overly neon.

Fiddled with the display settings endlessly, any ideas?

Revs
08-04-08, 07:08 AM
I assume you haven't got DV turned on? If not, are you adjusting the colour on the monitor or the CP? Also have you had a play with the gamma setting?

sytaylor
08-04-08, 08:18 AM
I doubt I have DV turned on? But 1) I dont know what DV is and 2) I wouldnt know where to turn it off. If it means digital vibrance. I still don't know where Id turn that off

And fiddling with all the settings is starting to yield some results. Things are still slightly neon but nowhere near as unbearable.

Revs
08-04-08, 08:36 AM
It's all in your nVidia Control Panel, Sy. I would set your monitor to stock settings and have a fiddle in the CP. Also, yes, I meant digital Vibrance. Messing with the monitors settings and the CP setting together can get some crappy results, I would use either/or.

Also, what cable are you using to connect the two, DVI or RGB?

sytaylor
08-04-08, 08:45 AM
RGB, I lost the DVI one that came with the video card.

Just had a look for the digital vibrancy setting. Couldnt find it?

Revs
08-04-08, 09:50 AM
I would recommend you use a DVI cable to connect the two. On a DVI cable the signal is digital all the way to the monitor. With RGB the RAMDAC in your graphics card does the converting to analogue, which then requires synchronizing with the screen. The main reason DVI's are better is it eliminates the need for the monitor to set the vertical and horizontal sync, giving a crisper image, but it also improves general image quality, inc, colour. I wouldn't go back to RGB now. I really suggest you shell out on a DVI cable, you won't regret it :)

mcolbourn
08-04-08, 12:01 PM
sytaylor

I would try to get a dvi cable really. I have tried mine with the RGB cable and it looked a lot worse due to the digital - analog - digital conversion.

Also on mine I have got it set up with this setting

Brightness: 45% - 40% depending on lighting daylight or night time.
Contrast: 57%
Colour temp: User
Red: 47%
Green: 45%
Blue: 44%

I hope you get it setup right as it is a good screen once setup.