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breathemetal
07-28-08, 09:17 PM
My buddy's mom wants me to build her a cheap "Daily use" computer.

Price: up to $500

Just the tower. No monitor or accessories.

Whats your suggestions?

crainger
07-28-08, 09:22 PM
Dell. ::D:

Cheap Gigabyte board with all onboard, entry level C2D and 2gb of basic RAM. Just add a 320GB HDD and DVD Burner and you should come in under budget. Oh a cheap case like the CM 690 should work great and look the part.

breathemetal
07-28-08, 09:29 PM
thanks

CaptNKILL
07-28-08, 10:22 PM
I built a pretty solid system at NewEgg for around $300.

CaptNKILL
07-28-08, 10:27 PM
Here...

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=10142068&WishListTitle=Good

You can probably get a few things that are better now. I made this list a month or two ago.

A Geforce 8200 board would be a good alternative, as would a 45 watt X2 processor.

If Intel had better low end chipsets I'd say go with a Pentium Dual Core (Allendale), but the 780G and 8200\8300 are significantly better than any integrated chipsets for Intel.

Heinz68
07-29-08, 02:10 AM
^^^^^^
That's really cheap. I was thinking it still needs the PSU but the $29.99 case includes 420W Power Supply. WOW

CaptNKILL
07-29-08, 03:55 AM
^^^^^^
That's really cheap. I was thinking it still needs the PSU but the $29.99 case includes 420W Power Supply. WOW

If I had a crap load of money to burn I'd be pumping out dirt cheap computers from newegg every week just to see how cheaply I could build a good computer.

I was just reading the thread in the gaming section about PCs being sold for Crysis in the $600-$800 range so I whipped together a system with a 2.4Ghz Pentium Dual Core E2220(basically a Core 2 Allendale with less cache) a 9600GT 512Mb, 2Gb PC2-6400, Gigabyte P31 mobo, 250Gb Seagate 7200.10 drive with 16Mb cache, Samsung S223 SATA DVD burner and an Antec Sonata case with 500W Earthwatts PSU... for $508 shipped.

It isn't top of the line but it'd easily play any game available today at decent settings, even Crysis. For $500.

Its amazing how cheaply anyone can build a good computer these days. I can't even imagine how dirt cheap it'd be for an OEM to buy components wholesale from the manufacturers.

sytaylor
07-29-08, 05:56 AM
Recessions are great if you have spare cash. :p

Heinz68
07-29-08, 08:05 AM
After not upgrading for long time I have some spare cash burning my pocket. Just hope Intel wont forget there is a recession when Nehalem is going to be released.:)

CaptNKILL another nice cheap build and this time even good for gaming.

mullet
07-29-08, 08:49 AM
$89.99 ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131273)
$62.00 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane 2.5GHz AM2 65W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103212)
$44.99 G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098)
$89.99 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218)
$27.49 SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151154)
$74.99 SILVERSTONE SUGO SG02B-F Black ABS / SECC Steel MicroATX Desktop Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163112)
$46.99 SILVERSTONE ST400 400W ATX 12V 2.2 Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256032)

TOTAL = $436.44
And what ever OS.

ViN86
07-29-08, 09:13 AM
$99.99 - Antec Sonata III w/ 500W PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024&Tpk=sonata%2bIII

$79.99 - 2x2GB DDR2-800 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

$99.99 - Intel P35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121314

$124.99 - Intel C2D E7200 Wolfdale (2.53GHz) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052

$79.99 - eVGA 8600GT - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130085

$500 w/out harddrive


if you dont have an extra hard drive layin around...

replace vid card with
$39.99 - eVGA 7300GS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130044

$85.99 - WD 500GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136111

replace ram with
$45.99 - 2x1GB Kingston ValueRAM DDR2-800

$24.99 - LG DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144

~$515 w/ harddrive and C2D

breathemetal
07-29-08, 09:52 AM
i think ill go with this one
ive never built a small form pc so itll be new and fun
plus she'll think its "cute" lol


$89.99 ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131273)
$62.00 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane 2.5GHz AM2 65W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103212)
$44.99 G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098)
$89.99 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218)
$27.49 SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151154)
$74.99 SILVERSTONE SUGO SG02B-F Black ABS / SECC Steel MicroATX Desktop Computer Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163112)
$46.99 SILVERSTONE ST400 400W ATX 12V 2.2 Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256032)

TOTAL = $436.44
And what ever OS.

Starscream
07-29-08, 10:27 AM
If I had a crap load of money to burn I'd be pumping out dirt cheap computers from newegg every week just to see how cheaply I could build a good computer.


Looking at your list you already aren't pumping out GOOD computers.

To act like Steve Ballmer for a minute, "POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES!" ahem. I've been working in sales and repairs of computers for 7.5 years (3.5 working for someone, 4 running my own retail store) now and you need a quality power supply, period. End of discussion. The only two brands I'm even willing to sell people are Coolermaster and Zalman. Not bloody much else for a reasonable price lasts and if you start dealing with any kind of volume you'll discover that really quick.

Bearclaw
07-29-08, 10:42 AM
While were on it... are there any mini cases or small atx cases that can fit a gtx260/280?

breathemetal
07-29-08, 10:44 AM
im sure they can fit them, but wouldnt heat be a big issue?

CaptNKILL
07-29-08, 03:28 PM
Looking at your list you already aren't pumping out GOOD computers.

To act like Steve Ballmer for a minute, "POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES!" ahem. I've been working in sales and repairs of computers for 7.5 years (3.5 working for someone, 4 running my own retail store) now and you need a quality power supply, period. End of discussion. The only two brands I'm even willing to sell people are Coolermaster and Zalman. Not bloody much else for a reasonable price lasts and if you start dealing with any kind of volume you'll discover that really quick.

Yeah, I've been doing this a while too.

All I've really noticed is that power supplies are all hit or miss, except for specific models that are known to be exceptionally good or bad. Someone could go through 20 crappy brand power supplies without a failure and have a PCP&C fail on them within a week. Its all random. If you build a ton of computers with the same PSU and have a lot of failures, then you can scratch that PSU off your list. Also, unless you're spending $100 or more on a power supply, you don't even know what brand you're actually getting since they all change manufacturers so often, so sticking to one brand doesn't really guarantee anything.

If there is one model of power supply that you don't have many failures with, stick with it, but don't expect next year's model to be just as reliable because it has the same brand sticker on it.

ViN86
07-30-08, 09:16 AM
Looking at your list you already aren't pumping out GOOD computers.

To act like Steve Ballmer for a minute, "POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES!" ahem. I've been working in sales and repairs of computers for 7.5 years (3.5 working for someone, 4 running my own retail store) now and you need a quality power supply, period. End of discussion. The only two brands I'm even willing to sell people are Coolermaster and Zalman. Not bloody much else for a reasonable price lasts and if you start dealing with any kind of volume you'll discover that really quick.

depends, if youre going to be running a PSU at near load,then yes, you need a quality one. but at lower power requirements, a regular, decent named 500-600W PSU will be sufficient.

mullet
07-30-08, 10:16 AM
Looking at your list you already aren't pumping out GOOD computers.

To act like Steve Ballmer for a minute, "POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES! POWER SUPPLIES!" ahem. I've been working in sales and repairs of computers for 7.5 years (3.5 working for someone, 4 running my own retail store) now and you need a quality power supply, period. End of discussion. The only two brands I'm even willing to sell people are Coolermaster and Zalman. Not bloody much else for a reasonable price lasts and if you start dealing with any kind of volume you'll discover that really quick.

To extreme of view. There is not 1 shoe fits all scenario, it all depends on the application & PSU reviews. There is good and bad PSU's from all manufactures, in all electronics nothing I repeat nothing is 100%.