View Full Version : So I got second GTX280
hell_of_doom227
08-01-08, 11:29 PM
Unbelievable performance :D SLI works like charm especially in Crysis.
XxDeadlyxX
08-02-08, 12:30 AM
I'm getting a second GTX 280 too, a few questions:
1) Do you get any microstuttering?
2) Does Vsync work with SLI? If not, does it work with D3DOverrider?
3) What was Crysis fps with single card compared to SLI?
4) I also have eVGA 780i mobo coming, are you using your X-Fi in the available PCI slot just under the middle PCI-e 16x slot? (GTX 280s in the top an bottom PCI-e 16x slots I'm guessing?) Does the SLI bridge fit over the X-Fi fine too?
Thanks.
hell_of_doom227
08-02-08, 12:32 AM
I don't see any microstuttering. Everything runs really really smooth. I played UT3, Frontline Fuel of Wars and Crysis. As far as Crysis you can crank up everything to very high, DX10.0 and apply AA2x and AF8x. It runs better then with single card, you will feel it and it's totally smooth. I didn't try vsync. Yes i have my xi-fi in the middle. I have no heating issues. Both cards reached like 79C GPU1 76C GPU2 - Crysis was exception 81C GPU1 80C GPU2. Both cards idle around 56C with fan set to 40% via Evga Precision. It runs pretty cool.
XxDeadlyxX
08-02-08, 12:35 AM
I don't see any stuttering. I played UT3, Frontline Fuel of Wars and Crysis. As far as Crysis you can crank up everything to very high, DX10.0 and apply AA2x and AF8x. It runs better then with single card, you will feel it. Vsync works. Yes i have my xi-fi in the middle. I have no heating issues. Both cards reached like 79C GPU1 76C GPU2. It runs pretty cool.
Awesome :D GTX 280 SLI ftw then! (nana2)
crainger
08-02-08, 03:17 AM
Taking advantage of the 280 price cut I see. ::D: 1000 to just over 500 is not bad at all.
I believe the microstuttering is still there , but its not noticable due to the fact that most games are running at high framerates when running a GTX280 SLI or Tri so it wont matter in that case.
we need someone to conduct a series of technical tests to confirm that , not just measure it by "feelings".
I believe the microstuttering is still there , but its not noticable due to the fact that most games are running at high framerates when running a GTX280 SLI or Tri so it wont matter in that case.
we need someone to run a series of technical tests to confirm that , not just measure it by "feelings".
I wonder if this is a flat panel issue. I get no stuttering on my 22" CRT but it is definitely there on the 22" LCD.... Refresh Rate issue maybe?? CRT @ 85hz = smooth, LCD @ 60hz = microstuttering... at least for me.
I wonder if this is a flat panel issue. I get no stuttering on my 22" CRT but it is definitely there on the 22" LCD.... Refresh Rate issue maybe?? CRT @ 85hz = smooth, LCD @ 60hz = microstuttering... at least for me.
I had microstuttering on my previous 7800GTX SLI/7950 Quad-SLI systems & thats on a 19" CRT @85hz so i dont believe its the issue. i havent run any GF8 series card in SLI though so no idea if their case is any different.
particleman
08-03-08, 01:33 PM
With the plummetting 280GTX prices I made the plunge and grabbed a 2nd 280GTX as well, just about to install it, keeping my fingers crossed I don't have an overheating one.
DarthBeavis
08-03-08, 02:05 PM
And I have NO 280s (well I am having six of them loaned to me but I OWN zero) . . .what is this world coming to?
Prices are falling on the 280's right now, but I'm not so sure buying one now is the best idea knowing full well the (280b or 290) is coming in September. This will certainly drive prices down even more on the 280 if you're not tempted to buy the more powerful and cooler running (280b or 290). Patience is a tough thing to master, but I just can't see buying a 280 right now with the next revision coming so soon. Won't matter for me anyway since I'm buying a 4870x2, but for those that are buying Nvidia, this is something to think about.
particleman
08-06-08, 01:01 AM
Much like the 8800GTX was faster than a 8800GT/GTS, I think the 280GTX is going to be faster than the die shrink. The main problem for nVidia with the 280GTX is the die size and how much it costs to produce, it is without question faster than a 4870 (I have owned 2 4870s and now 2 280GTXs). With the price of a 280GTX only @ 100 bucks more than a 4870, it is the better buy at the moment IMO. What you will most likely see with the refresh is a smaller chip that is cheaper to produce but not necessarily faster.
Xion X2
08-06-08, 01:23 AM
As far as Crysis you can crank up everything to very high, DX10.0 and apply AA2x and AF8x. It runs better then with single card, you will feel it and it's totally smooth.
Bullsh#&.
XMAN52373
08-06-08, 01:55 AM
Bullsh#&.
He never mentions resolution and 2x AA on the 280s is about the same as 2x on 8800gts 640 very very small performance hit.
Xion X2
08-06-08, 02:12 AM
He never mentions resolution and 2x AA on the 280s is about the same as 2x on 8800gts 640 very very small performance hit.
It doesn't matter. He mentioned "very high", and that was enough.
Even a CrossfireX system with 2 4870X2's can't run that game on very high at a smooth framerate. Neither can 2 280's.
particleman
08-06-08, 02:23 AM
Well given how horribly 4870 crossfire scales in Crysis, 2 280GTXs outperforms 2 4870X2 in Crossfire.
It doesn't matter. He mentioned "very high", and that was enough.
Even a CrossfireX system with 2 4870X2's can't run that game on very high at a smooth framerate. Neither can 2 280's.
Lfctony
08-06-08, 02:34 AM
It doesn't matter. He mentioned "very high", and that was enough.
Even a CrossfireX system with 2 4870X2's can't run that game on very high at a smooth framerate. Neither can 2 280's.
That's not totally true mate. I'm playing it on Very High at 1680x1050. No AA, no AF... My minimum on the GPU test is 25FPS and the AVG is around 40... It's quite playable. During gameplay, I find that if I drop down the Shadows to medium, I get a large boost in-game (takes my slowish cpu out of the question I guess)... It's playable with everything on V.High, just plays better for me with shadows on medium.
Xion X2
08-06-08, 02:50 AM
Even with no AA Crysis plays at less than 30fps average on SLI'd 280's and drops to 13 fps in some places on "very high."
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTUzMSw1LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
Unless he's playing at 1280x res, I don't buy it. Some guys have a different definition of "smooth", but they should be careful not to mislead people. Less than 30fps average is not "smooth" for most, I don't think.
Lfctony
08-06-08, 04:40 AM
As I said, I play with 1680x1050, no AA/AF and the game plays fine. That graph is at a higher resolution with 16xAF, which incurs a big performance hit, at least in my case... I don't know what res HoD is using though...
Much like the 8800GTX was faster than a 8800GT/GTS, I think the 280GTX is going to be faster than the die shrink. The main problem for nVidia with the 280GTX is the die size and how much it costs to produce, it is without question faster than a 4870 (I have owned 2 4870s and now 2 280GTXs). With the price of a 280GTX only @ 100 bucks more than a 4870, it is the better buy at the moment IMO. What you will most likely see with the refresh is a smaller chip that is cheaper to produce but not necessarily faster.
I disagree, for the simple fact that Nvidia had a sizeable lead on ATI at the time of the 8800GTX, but this is not the case this round. In fact, when the 4870X2 is released next wekk, Nividia will clearly be in second place and they know it. This is why the 280b or 290 is going to be more than just a die shrink. Nvidia doesn't like to be behind ATI. This round is much different than it was with the 8800GTX.
Well given how horribly 4870 crossfire scales in Crysis, 2 280GTXs outperforms 2 4870X2 in Crossfire.
Crossfire has nothing to do with scaling in Crysis and everything to do with the design of the card. The 4870 is never going to be faster than the 280 at Crysis regardless of driver releases. Nvidia spent a good deal of money optimizing the 280 design for Crysis and it shows...in Crysis. However, ATI has showed that the 4870's design is 90% as fast as the 280 in almost every other game. I think tha's a fair trade-off considering the selling price, especially since most people don't care about Crysis anyway. Crysis is a marketing tool for Nivida, a game to simply show of the abilities of the 280 and say, "We run it faster", but no one really cares which is why the 4870 is selling so well.
Some guys have a different definition of "smooth", but they should be careful not to mislead people. Less than 30fps average is not "smooth" for most, I don't think.
Yep. 60 fps MINIMUM = smooth to me :D
Crossfire has nothing to do with scaling in Crysis and everything to do with the design of the card. The 4870 is never going to be faster than the 280 at Crysis regardless of driver releases. Nvidia spent a good deal of money optimizing the 280 design for Crysis and it shows...in Crysis.
QFT.
Lfctony
08-06-08, 09:28 AM
Nvidia spent a good deal of money optimizing the 280 design for Crysis and it shows...in Crysis.
It does? Really?
A single GTX280 CANT run V.High Crysis... Heck, 2 GTX280s can barely run it, and that's without any AA/AF... I imagine if they hadn't optimized the cards, as you claim...
It does? Really?
A single GTX280 CANT run V.High Crysis... Heck, 2 GTX280s can barely run it, and that's without any AA/AF... I imagine if they hadn't optimized the cards, as you claim...
I suppose he meant optimizing it to run as fast as possible & faster than its rival (i.e. the 4870).
whatever way you look at it , the GTX280 is the single GPU card that can run Crysis at best performance possible today.
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