Convince me to buy a GTX 260

[lightman]

You should kiss everybody behind who bought the ATI card, if it was not for them your GTX 260 would sell for much more money.
Some off the NVIDIA fanboys still have a hard time too see how good the present ATI offering is.
Lucky for them it didn't take NVIDIA long time to figure it out.

I think I'm gonna quote Evox here :

Take the stick out of your ass and you would realise he's just joking. If you can't take a light hearted joke, that's your problem.

Seriously, you're a good guy usually, but since the new ATI cards came out, you've been acting like an ass, overreacting to anything said against (or even simply not in favor of) ATI.

The 4xxx series is good, really good, we all know it (ok, almost all of us know ;)) (and, by the way, this is testified by long term nvidia users having switched to the red camp), but please, give it a rest. :)

Mind you, I'm not attacking you in any way or form, I'm pointing out that you should cheer up a little. Seriously, your liver would be gratefull :)

[saturnotaku]

Are there any particular companies that I should send my business towards? Right now, I am finding some good deals on BFG-branded cards. EVGA also looks tempting. I like XFX's attitude and have put their cards in other computers before.

It will probably come down to which one is the least expensive when I decide to plop down the money.

Personally, I'd go with eVGA, with BFG being a close second. I wouldn't touch any other manufacturer due to dodgy customer service. Ask around here, and you'll hear some absolute horror stories, particularly with XFX. A few members here were jerked around by them. They like to tout their "double lifetime warranty" but heaven forbid you actually need to utilize it.

[ginfest]

No overheating issues on the GTX 260 that I am aware of. I have had the pleasure of owning both a HD 4870 and a GTX 260, in the end I kept the 260 because everything is a bit more consistent right now with NV's drivers and the min frame rates are a bit higher for me with the games that I play on my 260.

+1

[Heinz68]

I think I'm gonna quote Evox here :
Take the stick out of your ass and you would realise he's just joking. If you can't take a light hearted joke, that's your problem


Seriously, you're a good guy usually, but since the new ATI cards came out, you've been acting like an ass, overreacting to anything said against (or even simply not in favor of) ATI.

The 4xxx series is good, really good, we all know it (ok, almost all of us know ;)) (and, by the way, this is testified by long term nvidia users having switched to the red camp), but please, give it a rest. :)

Mind you, I'm not attacking you in any way or form, I'm pointing out that you should cheer up a little. Seriously, your liver would be gratefull :)
I just can believe it, you're using evon qoute from a tread which was started by Slappi, obvious ATI basher and troll poster. The tread was closed immediately by CaptNKILL. Good timing before it developed in one huge flame war.
LINK (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=117303)

Obviously there was nothing funny in that tread. If you have a hard time to get it, would you find anything funny about it if some obvious troller posted the same about the NVIDIA cards?
So you can see evox was not right and replys like that are only good flame starter and your post is not any better.
Why didn't you let DarkOneX reply and if he was trying to be funny about ATI why not use a little smiley specialy with GTX 260 in his signature in a tread where the ATI and NVIDIA is being compared.

I sure do not apreciate your lecturing and I'am not going to get in the argument with you about who is acting like and ass also you better check my postings before you start attacking me.
Anyway this is my last reply on the subject and even that is little more than you deserve.

[BrianG]

Personally, I'd go with eVGA, with BFG being a close second. I wouldn't touch any other manufacturer due to dodgy customer service. Ask around here, and you'll hear some absolute horror stories, particularly with XFX. A few members here were jerked around by them. They like to tout their "double lifetime warranty" but heaven forbid you actually need to utilize it.

Ditto. Never had issues with EVGA.

[lightman]

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[Darkhitman]

I just can believe it, you're using evon qoute from a tread which was started by Slappi, obvious ATI basher and troll poster. The tread was closed immediately by CaptNKILL. Good timing before it developed in one huge flame war.
LINK (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=117303)

Obviously there was nothing funny in that tread. If you have a hard time to get it, would you find anything funny about it if some obvious troller posted the same about the NVIDIA cards?
So you can see evox was not right and replys like that are only good flame starter and your post is not any better.
Why didn't you let DarkOneX reply and if he was trying to be funny about ATI why not use a little smiley specialy with GTX 260 in his signature in a tread where the ATI and NVIDIA is being compared.

I sure do not apreciate your lecturing and I'am not going to get in the argument with you about who is acting like and ass also you better check my postings before you start attacking me.
Anyway this is my last reply on the subject and even that is little more than you deserve.

Dude its thread, not tread. LOL, your killing me guy. :lol:

[saturnotaku]

Dude its thread, not tread. LOL, your killing me guy. :lol:

Dude, it's it's not its and you're not your.

[Heinz68]

I was joking with him mr serious (pb)
Believe it or not, I do find 'saturnotaku' post more funny. I wonder why. :)
It looks like it's you who all off sudden become Mr serious when the joke was turn on you.

Anyway even though English is not my native language, "tread" was a misprint.
The problem is the damn forum dictionary can't read my mind. :)

[LORD-eX-Bu]

go with EVGA Ash :D

[Xion X2]

I just can believe it, you're using evon qoute from a tread which was started by Slappi, obvious ATI basher and troll poster.

+1. The guy's a troll, and he had it coming.

[Dazz]

I ordered a EVGA Superclocked GTX260 for £145 from the states yes that cheap! Should get it any day now :) Only got the GTX over the 4870 due to the increased frambuffer and it's performance in DX10 Company of heroes (for Dawn of war 2)

[Feyy]

Where did you order it from? ;)

Which retailer?

[damianraver]

Wow can you all stop ruining the OP's thread? Please?

To answer you and in which everyone has already it's your choice. Both are GREAT cards and perform very close if not better than the other. I have a GTX 260 from EVGA due to stepping up from a 9800GTX. The eye candy is jaw dropping. They bother perform very well under 1650 x 1200 anything over, GTX 260 will kill with AA on due to the 896MB. If you arent playing anything beyond 1650 x 1200 maybe go with ATi. Better buy and saves a little more. I know because my friend owns a 4750.

If you do go with the GTX 260, go with EVGA. Their customer service is the best that I have seen. Go to their message boards and you will see. Their Mods are active unlike other message boards. Also their mods take the time to look into your issues such as RMA or opurchases and makes sure they gettin taken care of. They give you 110% customer service.

Also they offer set-up. Which means, if you are not satisfied with your GTX 260, you can step up to a GTX 280. you jsut pay the difference of what you paid for your card. Also To do the step up you must buy from an eligilbe e-tailer, such as Newegg. They have them posted on their site, and e-bay is a big no-no!

BFG is second to none right under EVGA. They now offer a "step-up" as well from what I have heard but can't go wrong with BFG. hjav enot had anything from them but from word of mouth they are good.

XFX, don't even bother with them!!! You get third world country with customer service.

[PeterJensen]

lol EVGA no better then anny other brand...Jesus stop sucking balls! Go with the one where you save the most $$ and stop sucking EVGA ****!

[hell_of_doom227]

Go and hit submit. It's so easy :)
eVga is the best. Good RMA process in case the things go bad. Good warranty. Good Support. Very useful message board they have. And you get Free Copy of 3DMark Vantage. I got two free copies with two GTX280 i purchased. Make sure you register your card and you upload scan of your invoice :). Step Up program...forgot that.

[Medion]

To answer you and in which everyone has already it's your choice. Both are GREAT cards and perform very close if not better than the other. I have a GTX 260 from EVGA due to stepping up from a 9800GTX. The eye candy is jaw dropping. They bother perform very well under 1650 x 1200 anything over, GTX 260 will kill with AA on due to the 896MB. If you arent playing anything beyond 1650 x 1200 maybe go with ATi. Better buy and saves a little more. I know because my friend owns a 4750.


You have it backwords. ATI's memory management seems to be more efficient. As you scale the res/AA, the HD4870 pulls ahead of the GTX260 significantly. At 8xAA, the HD4870 has a commanding lead in most games.

Of course, the GTX260 does have other benefits, such as PhysX support, which is more prevalent now than DX10.1 support. The GTX260 has its benefits, so no need to twist facts.

[Xion X2]

It's a little of both, actually. The 4870 outperforms the GTX260 convincingly with high levels of AA on most current games, but the low VRAM will kill it before long as it's close to capacity on current titles.

After installing Qarl's texture pack for Oblivion I get major slowdown with 16xAA even in Crossfire. My FPS plummets from 70 down to 30 going from 8x-->16x.

You have to wonder how well it'll perform with upcoming games that'll run high-res textures like ID's new engine and whatever else may be out there. Will probably have to back down the AA a lot in those games to run them.

[nekrosoft13]

when SH64 asked you before does Oblivion with texture packs plays well on 48xx series, didn't you say it plays perfect?

[Xion X2]

when SH64 asked you before does Oblivion with texture packs plays well on 48xx series, didn't you say it plays perfect?

Considering I just installed the mod a few days ago, no, I don't remember saying that. And you're generalizing a bit. It plays "perfect" until you enable 16x MSAA where the cards hit the VRAM limit. I can even run 24xAA just fine since it's shader-based (Edge Detect). I just can't run 16x MSAA.

[Blkout]

Wow can you all stop ruining the OP's thread? Please?

To answer you and in which everyone has already it's your choice. Both are GREAT cards and perform very close if not better than the other. I have a GTX 260 from EVGA due to stepping up from a 9800GTX. The eye candy is jaw dropping. They bother perform very well under 1650 x 1200 anything over, GTX 260 will kill with AA on due to the 896MB. If you arent playing anything beyond 1650 x 1200 maybe go with ATi. Better buy and saves a little more. I know because my friend owns a 4750.

If you do go with the GTX 260, go with EVGA. Their customer service is the best that I have seen. Go to their message boards and you will see. Their Mods are active unlike other message boards. Also their mods take the time to look into your issues such as RMA or opurchases and makes sure they gettin taken care of. They give you 110% customer service.

Also they offer set-up. Which means, if you are not satisfied with your GTX 260, you can step up to a GTX 280. you jsut pay the difference of what you paid for your card. Also To do the step up you must buy from an eligilbe e-tailer, such as Newegg. They have them posted on their site, and e-bay is a big no-no!

BFG is second to none right under EVGA. They now offer a "step-up" as well from what I have heard but can't go wrong with BFG. hjav enot had anything from them but from word of mouth they are good.

XFX, don't even bother with them!!! You get third world country with customer service.


I know you're just defending your purchase but don't say things that simply aren't true. The ATI 4870 will outperform the GTX 260 with AA turned on. FYI, the 260's 896MB of memory has nothing on the 4870's 512MB DDR5. The 260 holds some advantage over a 4850 but they aren't in the same price range so who cares? Your statement about not playing anything above 1680x1050 with an ATI card is laughable at best. I play just fine at 1920x1200 with 16xAF and 4xAA in all games except Crysis with my 4870.

[Blacklash]

How about offloading physics from the CPU to the GPU? I tried this with "Warmonger" and more than tripled my FPS.

Here is the opening room in the tutorial in "Warmonger". I used 1920x with all sliders to the right, or max.

177.41 = 20FPS
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5793/wmgame17741stocknt6.jpg

177.79 + PhysX 8.07.18 = 63FPS
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/646/wmgamephysix260rq3.jpg

According to nVidia 10 titles supporting this will be out by Christmas, and 14 more next year.

This could make a lot of upcoming games that might be unplayable @ 1920x max settings, playable. That is if the game supports it. Moving from 50 to 100FPS isn't that big of a deal to me, moving from 20 to 63 is.

[Blkout]

How about offloading physics from the CPU to the GPU? I tried this with "Warmonger" and more than tripled my FPS.

Here is the opening room in the tutorial in "Warmonger". I used 1920x with all sliders to the right, or max.

177.41 = 20FPS
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5793/wmgame17741stocknt6.jpg

177.79 + PhysX 8.07.18 = 63FPS
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/646/wmgamephysix260rq3.jpg

According to nVidia 10 titles supporting this will be out by Christmas, and 14 more next year.

This could make a lot of upcoming games that might be unplayable @ 1920x max settings, playable. That is if the game supports it. Moving from 50 to 100FPS isn't that big of a deal to me, moving from 20 to 63 is.

It remains to be see how hardware physics is going to catch-on but I do believe that if any company has the muscle to get it started, it's certainly Nvidia. I think it was a risky move acquiring Aegia, but Nvidia is no stranger to taking risks and probably 9 out of 10 times, they come out ahead.

[hemmy]

lol EVGA no better then anny other brand...Jesus stop sucking balls! Go with the one where you save the most $$ and stop sucking EVGA ****!

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not...hope so

[crainger]

Probably not. Peter was high last night.