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Tr1cK
08-05-08, 08:49 AM
My old 80 giggers are starting the click on me. I'm looking to replace them with about 250gb or so each. The main thing is I want reliable drives that will last for years until my lazy ass replaces them again. I will need to buy 2. One is my system drive that Windows and all apps reside on, the other will be for game installs.

I was eye balling some 250gb Seagate 7200.10s with 8mb cache, ST3250310AS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148261&Tpk=ST3250310AS).

The 8mb cache isn't very attractive, but if they are speedy and hit 5.9 WEI (current ones get 5.4) then I will be happy. The 7200.11s have some extremely mixed reviews with poor reliability also.

I really am leaning Seagate this time around, though I may go with WD again.

dxx
08-05-08, 10:14 AM
That there's an OEM drive. They're like the GS series of Seagate drives, and you'll want to avoid them if quality's an issue. Stick with the retail ones with the 5yr warranties.

Monolyth
08-05-08, 10:53 AM
OEM just means it doesn't come with a box. Chances are you will have a new drive in 3 years no need to worry about a 5yr warranty. Most manufacturers won't restore data anyway, just get a backup drive ASAP and keep regular backups of your important data.

Have a look at this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074

The 250GB single-drives won't post 5.9 WEI, even these 320GB single-platters can't hit 5.9 by themselves (RAID is a different situation), but they will perform better then those 250GB's. If you are looking to max performance / access times remember to turn off AAM or set to max performance using either HD Tune Pro or a hard-drive utility app.

CaptNKILL
08-05-08, 11:03 AM
Do you specifically need 2 physical drives? 2 partitions would probably be better.

You can get a 640Gb WD drive which is one of the fastest drives available now for $90. They will probably outperform any older model drives like the ones you're looking at by 50%-100% in most benchmarks.

I have 2 320Gb Seagate 7200.10 drives (the fastest model\size of the 7200.10) and I get a WEI hard drive score of 5.7. The WD 640Gb is significantly faster than these drives.

EciDemon
08-07-08, 05:29 AM
Seagate drives have always worked good for me. Ive stuck with them for the past 7-8 years or so.
Still no problems *knocks on wood* hehe.

I do know there have been issues with some of them in the past, like bad firmware and a batch with viruses on or something but for me its been fine.

Initially i picked them cos they were rather silent.

2x 80gb still working. Used one in puter and the secon in the PS2, now they hold backups.
1x 160gb still working (using this one with two partitions for dual boot in current puter) A bit slow with todays standard, Ill change it eventually.
1x 200gb for the PS2
1x 320gb for the Xbox
2x 500gb (32mb chache version) in soft raid in current rig.

I think that's all of them
The only other brand i own and use now is an external maxtor basic 750gb. Stupid thing dosent get recognised as it should if it's connected and I reboot (it shows as unformatted 127gb).

Revs
08-07-08, 05:55 AM
I'd go for a Barracuda 7200.10. Just be aware that there are several models at the same size with varying specs. This one has a good responce time, 16mb cache, is nice and cheap and should last years....

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=816357

Tr1cK
08-07-08, 07:27 AM
Capt, I really want 2 separate drives. I have ran RAID0 for years until recently. I found that having games on an actual separate drive from the one the OS is on was much faster loading.

I'm liking how these look:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148309&Tpk=ST3250310NS

nekrosoft13
08-07-08, 07:36 AM
That there's an OEM drive. They're like the GS series of Seagate drives, and you'll want to avoid them if quality's an issue. Stick with the retail ones with the 5yr warranties.

wow :headexplode:

nekrosoft13
08-07-08, 07:39 AM
You can get a 640Gb WD drive which is one of the fastest drives available now for $90. They will probably outperform any older model drives like the ones you're looking at by 50%-100% in most benchmarks.

or he could get this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Hard+Drives-_-Western+Digital-_-22136074

this is 320gb Single platter, it is excactly like the 640gb (two platter).

Monolyth
08-07-08, 10:03 AM
Yah I had linked that one at the beginning of the thread, oh well /ignore Monolyth.

methimpikehoses
08-07-08, 11:39 AM
Yah I had linked that one at the beginning of the thread, oh well /ignore Monolyth.

Done.

Tr1cK
08-07-08, 12:30 PM
I am really considering the WD 320gb drives. The biggest problem I've seen with them is that not all of them are the single platter type according to this article.
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3236

CaptNKILL
08-07-08, 12:46 PM
Yah I had linked that one at the beginning of the thread, oh well /ignore Monolyth.

Whoops... I posted 10 minutes after you did. I must have just missed your post while I was typing mine. :o

I agree, if you want 2 drives, get two of those as long as you get the single platter model.

nekrosoft13
08-07-08, 01:18 PM
I am really considering the WD 320gb drives. The biggest problem I've seen with them is that not all of them are the single platter type according to this article.
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3236

if you get recent model one it should be. Less the platters the better. Faster speed and lower noise.

nekrosoft13
08-07-08, 01:18 PM
Yah I had linked that one at the beginning of the thread, oh well /ignore Monolyth.

http://directone.net/d1_images/tumbleweed_head_falls.jpg

Tr1cK
08-15-08, 09:32 PM
if you get recent model one it should be. Less the platters the better. Faster speed and lower noise.

The WD 320gb single platter is in. I have it running IDE mode instead of AHCI on the P43. The WEI test hung everytime on the disk test when I tried AHCI mode. :thumbdwn:
It's still blazing fast and hits 5.9 WEI without RAID in IDE mode. :thumbsup: Highly recommend.

Monolyth
08-15-08, 09:40 PM
The WD 320gb single platter is in. I have it running IDE mode instead of AHCI on the P43. The WEI test hung everytime on the disk test when I tried AHCI mode. :thumbdwn:
It's still blazing fast and hits 5.9 WEI without RAID in IDE mode. :thumbsup: Highly recommend.

Nice man, enjoy! :)

AHCI is a tricky bag, while it gives you NCQ in some cases it's not all it's cracked up to be. You may also wanna grab a bootable hard-drive utility (WD probably provides one) or load up HD Tune Pro (not free) and make sure your AAM is set to 254 or disabled. This will give you the best performance on the drive but it may increase noise a bit (but usually not much).

Tr1cK
08-16-08, 01:06 PM
I guess I spoke too soon and jinxed myself. The PC was frozen when I woke up this morning. I hit the reset button and was greeted with 'SMART has been tripped'. I ran Seatools on it and it failed both tests, the long one with 99 errors. :thumbdwn: I will be RMAing it to Newegg for replacement.

This is my first experience with a very high density drive and it's DOA. The performance is stellar, but reliability must be down the drain compared to older models. I got it to replace an old 80gb that click-whirs from time to time, but never fails a test or trips SMART. Here's hoping the replacement doesn't croak too.