Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 now available

[AthlonXP1800]

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/beta/

Download now. :D

Heard about on Neowin about Beta 2 offer lots of improvements.

[RAY16]

The first beta broke a lot of sites, I wonder if this one has better compatibility...

[Q]

Does this one have the pr0n mode?

[Bearclaw]

pRon mode FTW. :naughty:

[nekrosoft13]

can it be safely uninstalled?

[|MaguS|]

My question is what is the major changes other then porn mode? Does it load quicker? Faster site loading?

[AthlonXP1800]

The first beta broke a lot of sites, I wonder if this one has better compatibility...

Yeah Beta 1 broke lot of sites, I am very impressed with Beta 2, it has much better compatiblity mode. If I go to site like this forum, the compatiblity button didnt showed up mean NVNEWS home site and the forum are full IE8 compliant. :D I remember visited Neowin.net site with Beta 1 it was completed broke then in Beta 2 it showed up compatiblity button but the site rendered correctly in IE8 mode so no need to go in IE7 mode. :)

[AthlonXP1800]

can it be safely uninstalled?

Yes it can uninstalled by click on View installed updates on Programs and Features's Tasks column.

[AthlonXP1800]

Does this one have the pr0n mode?

Yeah.

[AthlonXP1800]

My question is what is the major changes other then porn mode? Does it load quicker? Faster site loading?

I noticed it loaded faster on some sites, it took Warp2search.net a while to loaded on IE7 but it loaded instantly with IE8 Beta 2.

[Starscream]

I like that in XP-64 the 32bit IE seems to have become the default. That was an annoyiance they needed to address for a while (no flash plugin for 64 bit version, stupid Adobe). That said I use Opera anyway, but this will definitely help a friend of mine.

[nekrosoft13]

some screenshots?

[ViN86]

dling the client

we will see how it is.

[ViN86]

pretty fast. but seems to be just like Firefox.

the InPrivate thing seems cool.

one weird thing is the ability to send all requested URL's to Microsoft and then MS scans them to make sure theyre legit. i disabled it. lol **** that. :retard:

[nekrosoft13]

Obama is a commie?

[ViN86]

Obama is a commie?

yes, sort of. obama is more socialist, and in a Marxist definition of the term, it's the middle-ground between capitalism and communism.

[DiscipleDOC]

:wtf:

[nekrosoft13]

Microsoft yesterday warned users of Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) that they won't be able to uninstall either the service pack or Internet Explorer 8 (IE8) under some circumstances. The warning was reminiscent of one Microsoft made in May, when Windows XP SP3 had just been made available for downloading. At the time, the company told users they wouldn't be able to downgrade from IE7 to the older IE6 browser without uninstalling the service pack.

In a post to the IE blog today, Jane Maliouta, a Microsoft program manager, spelled out the newest situation, which affects users who downloaded and installed IE8 Beta 1 prior to updating Windows XP to SP3. If those users then upgrade IE8 to Beta 2 , which Microsoft unveiled today, they will be stuck with both IE8 and Windows XP SP3. A warning dialog will appear to alert users. "If you chose to continue, Windows XP SP3 and IE8 Beta2 will become permanent," Maliouta said. "You will still be able to upgrade to later IE8 builds as they become available, but you won't be able to uninstall them."

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/08/28/microsoft-warns-of-ie8-lock-in-with-xp-sp3

[K007]

real men use firefox...









hehe

[nekrosoft13]

those developers tools are cool ;)

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/index.php

[LovingSticky]

real men use firefox...

IE8 B2 is:
- much faster
- much more stable (if one tab crashes, e.g. due to Flash, other tabs work fine, unlike in FF)
- no need to hunt for 20+ extensions (FF without them is useless)
- excellent Visual Search (must try!)
- excellent Web Slices
- excellent colored groups of tabs
- InPrivate Browsing (p0rn mode)

FF3 was a simple update of FF2, no innovation. IE8 B2 is brilliant. Again the best (after 7 years) :)

[DSC]

FF3 was a simple update of FF2, no innovation. IE8 B2 is brilliant. Again the best (after 7 years) :)

No, you don't know what you're talking about. IE8 B2 copied many things from Firefox 3, Find Bar and the Smart Location Bar features as well as other features from Safari or Opera. There's zero innovation in IE8, you just haven't used any other browsers throughly to see IE Team just copying features. Even Arstechnica had a humourous dig at this, "Redmond, start your photocopiers".

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080828-ie8-beta-2-shows-microsoft-is-serious-about-playing-catch-up.html

Also you don't need 20+ extensions, Firefox 3's browser core alone makes it better than any add-ons.

I had Beta 1 installed since release in March until Beta 2 was released, and Beta 2 still sucks badly. It's much better than Beta 1 but still YEARS behind Firefox, Safari or Opera. Brilliant and the best? Not even in a thousand years. Cyril has a good write up on why it still sucks so badly.

http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/15412

[LovingSticky]

Cyril from Techreport does not understand a thing about browsers. IE8 now brings "standards compliance" mode active by default, so if Techreport.com site breaks in IE8, it is Techreport fault!

I have designed about one hundred websites (all of them W3C XHTML 1.x valid), and none of them breaks under IE8 ;)

It is very important decision by Microsoft. Sure, plenty of webdesign-challenged people like Cyril will complain, but it is a good decision for the future.

As for innovation - Web Slices, Visual Search, colored tabs, tab crashing not bringing whole browser down, Accelerators, all those are IE8 specific and unique things, which were copied (well, some of them) by FF extensions. Many unique Opera features were copied by Firefox (and its extensions)...

FF is not a bad browser at all, but with 20+ extensions, it is horribly slow :( I love the browser because of Firebug extension, but for daily usage, even IE7 + IE7Pro is much faster (not to mention Opera)...

[DSC]

Again, learn to READ. Cyril notes down the issues and everything renders fine in the other 3 browsers, not IE8 Beta 2. This is IE8's fault, not Cyril's code. Firefox 3 reports Techreport as "Render Mode: Standards compliance mode"(Right-click, Page Info), so again, it's not his fault. And no, don't try to say Cyril is feeding IE6/7 CSS code into IE8, since he's clearly up to date on IE8 being standards compliant.

those in no way explain why Internet Explorer 8 randomly decides to conceal parts of the left column on our front page. The bits that do and don't show up seem to change whenever I refresh the page and scroll, too. On top of that, the browser inexplicably fails to render a background color on highlighted navigation bar items. Similar problems occur on Apple.com and CNN.com, respectively, so I doubt my competence as a web designer has anything to do with it.

Chromatabs and Colourful Tabs appeared LONG before IE8 Beta 2, clearly MS just copied the functionality and integrated it into IE8 Beta 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorful_Tabs

Colorful Tabs is fairly popular – it has had 4,357,988 downloads since its first Mozilla Firefox Addons appearance on October 10th, 2005.

October 2005, note that down.

Web Slices, Accelerators = Microformats, again, nothing new, these were supported in Firefox 3 alpha/betas long before IE8 was even announced. Crash and reload functionality was added since Firefox 2, again YEARS before IE8 Beta 2. IE8 has different implementation that doesn't take down the entire browser, but the functionality was there long before MS added it.

There's no way Firefox 3 is slower than IE7, all the benchmarks on the web and my personal daily usage of Firefox 3 since before it even hit alpha 1 status it's faster and the final release of Firefox 3 just leaves it behind in the dust. And Firefox 3.1 is even signficantly faster thanks to Tracemonkey, just using the nightly builds of 3.1 I can feel the difference once I turn on Tracemonkey.

As for Firebug, I can see why it slows down Firefox. Luckily they're working on improving Firebug.

http://ejohn.org/blog/firebug-12-released/

[nekrosoft13]

IE8 B2 is:
- much faster
- much more stable (if one tab crashes, e.g. due to Flash, other tabs work fine, unlike in FF)
- no need to hunt for 20+ extensions (FF without them is useless)
- excellent Visual Search (must try!)
- excellent Web Slices
- excellent colored groups of tabs
- InPrivate Browsing (p0rn mode)

FF3 was a simple update of FF2, no innovation. IE8 B2 is brilliant. Again the best (after 7 years) :)

yap works great, few friends already converted back from FF to IE8. and this is only a beta ;)

really like this browser ;)