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Gaco
09-06-08, 06:11 PM
I'm going to play around with Crysis again in anticipation of Crysis Warhead next week. However I haven't played around with Crysis configs in 10 months now and I can imagine that other people have been perfecting formulas and making progress the past year.

I've been around a bit and as far as I can see the two biggest are the CCC Config and Mster Config (currently at version 2.21 and 3.1 respectively).

So cast your vote: CCC, Mster or other :)

slaWter
09-06-08, 06:27 PM
I prefer CCC 2.21. Level 5 in DX9 is a perfect combination of visuals and performance!

Eliminator
09-06-08, 06:34 PM
other... i prefer my own tweaked very high config...

Gaco
09-06-08, 06:43 PM
I prefer CCC 2.21. Level 5 in DX9 is a perfect combination of visuals and performance!
There a are many options in the CCC installer apart from the level 1-6!
Two different shadow settings.
Extras: UltimaRage ToD, Assassins's AI tweak, Doomlord's AI tweak.

What do you pick? I'm thinking about going lvl5, realistic shadows, +ToD, no AI tweaks.

slaWter
09-06-08, 06:54 PM
There a are many options in the CCC installer apart from the level 1-6!
Two different shadow settings.
Extras: UltimaRage ToD, Assassins's AI tweak, Doomlord's AI tweak.

What do you pick? I'm thinking about going lvl5, realistic shadows, +ToD, no AI tweaks.

ToD and realistic shadows. But I don't remember which AI tweaks I picked...

jcrox
09-06-08, 07:36 PM
Other.

I haven't tried the CCC one but I thought the Master config actually made the game look worse. What I mostly prefer is just the standard DX10 very high settings but, now with the new monitor I'm going to have to save some of my spending cash for about 2 months so I can go Tri-SLI and enjoy the 1920x1200 goodness.

Roliath
09-06-08, 07:59 PM
I'm installing the CCC right now on my laptop, DX9 Lvl 5. I have it installed on my main rig right now too. Dx10, Lvl 6 CCC is where its at for people who don't want to make their own config.

K007
09-07-08, 12:55 AM
Other - Natural Mod :o

NiukNiuk
09-07-08, 05:19 AM
I used to use Mster config, but now I use CCC @ lvl 5, it looks great imo.

FastRedPonyCar
09-07-08, 02:12 PM
hp's is good, ccc is ok but mster's offers the best looks and performance by leaps and bounds.

Gaco
09-08-08, 09:24 AM
hp's is good, ccc is ok but mster's offers the best looks and performance by leaps and bounds.
Can you elaborate on that? msters config looks most plain and boring of the bunch IMO but it may just be the screenshots and of course the framerate is also important. CCC looks best on pics, but I haven't tried any of them so I don't know performance.


In general, is there any problem in installing and then uninstalling any of the configs if you would want to try the out one by one? I see that some of them also overwrite some level files, that's why I'm wondering..

FastRedPonyCar
09-08-08, 09:37 AM
Sure, mster cuts back details on the little things that you don't really notice unless you start playing screenshot jockey and start nitpicking.

In all reality, I think the Mster config is the best because it gives a good FPS increase (I'm rocking 40 FPS benchmarks) and I don't visually say to myself during playing that it looks any worse than the high end visual configs. And I think we can all agree that that's the name of the game.

All other configs only give me 30fps at most during GPU benchmarks and after loading any of them then to EITHER mster config (as both performance and visual config files yield much higher FPS) I honestly see no negative impact on the visuals.

I've stared at the graphical details in crysis more hours than I can count and though I can see little things here and there once I stop to scrutinize the surroundings, during game play, between the high end graphical configs and either mster config, the only difference I notice is the extra 10 fps when using the mster config.

When you stop judging these mods from the pics and just load em up and play, that's when you'll come to a much more meaningful conclusion on which you like better.

one thing I do think everyone should get down on is the Rygel texture mod. It'll make any graphic config better.

Gaco
09-08-08, 10:28 AM
Ok I guess I'll have to try them both out then..

Ah this one? Haven't seen that anywhere else!

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=117949

Does it conflict with any mod in any way?

nekrosoft13
09-08-08, 10:44 AM
I need to play though Crysis again with either CCC or mster + rygel textures.

In CCC installation is there any good explanation what all those settings do?

FastRedPonyCar
09-08-08, 10:47 AM
Ok I guess I'll have to try them both out then..

Ah this one? Haven't seen that anywhere else!

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=117949

Does it conflict with any mod in any way?

No it just upgrades to higher resolution textures. Turn off POM when you use it.

BioHazZarD
09-08-08, 10:50 AM
I only used the ccc.. gets the job done for me.

Gaco
09-08-08, 11:55 AM
Ok CCC crashes on me, so that rules it out I guess. Gonna try Mster's config then.. does it have POM turned off by default?

FastRedPonyCar
09-08-08, 12:08 PM
Ok CCC crashes on me, so that rules it out I guess. Gonna try Mster's config then.. does it have POM turned off by default?

for quality, I think it does.

Gaco
09-08-08, 12:39 PM
Ah damnit every link to the texture upgrade is down except for the rapidshare one which is split on 20 files each and only allowed you to download 1 at a time - at 30kb/s, which is an hour pr. file. I don't have 20 hours on my hand :(

Guess I'm gonna go ahead and try mster's config standalone then..

Gaco
09-08-08, 03:09 PM
I just tried Mster Config 3.01. Most aspects of day scenes are really good. But there's also some things I don't like. I'm gonna quote some forum users on Cry Mod because they state it perfectly:

The only things I don't love about this config. are: The ocean looks weird with blue waves and total transparency; the TOD on the alien levels is supposed to be gloomy; and some of the fires had bad coloration.

Well I just played in almost every level, I've got to say that it's better. The colors are better, the sun intensity feels better, it's less white, the fog is better, overall I liked it more!

But in my opinion, the nightlighting is pretty ugly compared to daylighting! The clouds look to be in 8-Bit, the sky texture isn't realistic, the colors are too saturated for the overall scene etc. I can't agree with the author claiming it's the final version. Because the nightlighting is really sub-par to the excellent daylighting. It needs improvement...

The mod is just plain great, maybe even better than ¨Natural¨ but I can't do anything but dislike the nights.

IMO the config so much better if he would fix the nix and fix the water. Seriously it looks like this:



On the other hand it looks good in the distance:


Also I don't like the fact that there is no moon lightning or at least light shafts from the moon in Mster's config. That's simply too cheap, it's a must in night scenes.

Now for a few shots of CCC. I like nearly everything about CCC (and btw I get same performance in CCC lvl 6+TOD as I do with Mster 3.01) except the sunrise that is simply too red, the overall exaggerated sharpness of the image, though I like the colors. Except that too many scenes are looking too green in Crysis with CCC lvl6. For instance here is the water from the first level too green IMO (compare with Mster above):



All in all I'm still undecided, I was hoping that there would be a real almost flawless badass config out at this point, but it looks like I'm gonna have to go back and look at my own old 1.01 config and see how it compares..


Oh missing the pictures, I forgot that FRAPS was set to bmp and now the screens are too large to upload and I'm too lazy to compress them or take new ones.. oh well.

Gaco
09-08-08, 07:28 PM
Ok the above post was a bit of a mess. What I mean is that I hate the water effect in Mster's config, the lack of moonlight shafts and in general the night scene, where CCC is way too sharp and a bit too color-filled/distorted as well, though many aspects of it looks pretty. For example the black/white and really dark night of CCC is really cool, perhaps making it a tad bit lighter would be perfect then. And Jmanrob's Extreme Quality config is pretty good but notably slower than CCC and Mster.

If only CCC would turn down the color/sharpness exaggeration a little bit and make the night a wee tad brighter.

If only Mster would fix his water, moon/night and give a bit of drawdistance.

If only Jmanrob would perform small tweaks to make it just a liiiitle bit more playable, and turn down the bloom effect just a little bit.


Then we'd have three excellent configs, one for each temper. But now I'm just not sure what I like the best :|

Gaco
09-09-08, 06:21 AM
Ok I have finally settled for Mster's config since the quality/performance was probably the best. CCC had nearly identical performance, but they just exaggerated the colors/bloom too much for my taste, making many scenes (though not all) looking too unnatural.

I'm gonna try to fix the issues I have with Mster's config manually then but editing it where necessary, though I'd rather touch it as little as possible. Really need to fix the water and the night. Will ask question here if I need help and let you know of my progress :)

jmanrob
09-09-08, 06:39 AM
Ok the above post was a bit of a mess. What I mean is that I hate the water effect in Mster's config, the lack of moonlight shafts and in general the night scene, where CCC is way too sharp and a bit too color-filled/distorted as well, though many aspects of it looks pretty. For example the black/white and really dark night of CCC is really cool, perhaps making it a tad bit lighter would be perfect then. And Jmanrob's Extreme Quality config is pretty good but notably slower than CCC and Mster.

If only CCC would turn down the color/sharpness exaggeration a little bit and make the night a wee tad brighter.

If only Mster would fix his water, moon/night and give a bit of drawdistance.

If only Jmanrob would perform small tweaks to make it just a liiiitle bit more playable, and turn down the bloom effect just a little bit.


Then we'd have three excellent configs, one for each temper. But now I'm just not sure what I like the best :|

My config is pretty well optimized considering the view distances and amount of detail level, just look at the cmds...I use only highest settings. The extreme version gets better fps than ccc lvl-6.

I agree with all what you said, on the other configs with custom tod's. I like the water effects of ccc's tod, but their lighting is just to exaggerated. I tried my config with their tod it enhances the water quality even futher, just can't deal with that yellow tint.

Im thinking of making a custom tod only to acheive subtle lighting changes and enhanced water effects.

Gaco
09-09-08, 07:02 AM
I just realized that the horrible night scenes in Mster's config is related to the maps themselfs (or rather the updated version of them), not the autoexec itself. Damnit, so I cannot it. Back to scratch.

The next best choice is jmanrob's config I guess. I just want more performance, even if it means compromising on some goodies. If I could just have either better performance in Jmanrob's Extreme Config and perhaps with the HDR and colors tuned a bit for a little more vividity/bright image without exaggerating it like CCC or Mster's Config with fixed night/clouds/water/10% less sunshaft/HDR, I'd be a happy man..

But both Jmanrob should just stick the the highend/low performance premise of the config so it doesn't wander too far from it's original purpose. Perhaps we should just have his Extreme Config as a "screenshot config" and leave it up to Mster to fix his config.

BTW Jmanrob I just noticed the "lite" version of your config, what is the difference exactly? How much watered down is it?
Also do you use have object blur in the Extreme Config? I heard that effect in particular should be very demanding, something like 3-4 FPS.

jmanrob
09-09-08, 07:15 AM
mostly just the view distances are lowered in the lite version for online play. btw i did a real quck compare of ccc lvl 6 and my extreme version, to show the main differences.

* note the exact time of day may differ.

CCC 2.21 lvl 6
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/jmanrob/ccclvl6.jpg


Extreme 1.31
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/jmanrob/extreme.jpg