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gdphk
09-09-08, 12:47 AM
http://news.sanhaostreet.com/NewsData/2008/9/2008991055225583.shtml

http://images.sanhaostreet.com/News//2008/9/20080908190932852.jpg
nrdstrm
09-09-08, 02:41 AM
**Moved to correct forum**
CaptNKILL
09-09-08, 05:05 AM
What does it say under them inside the blue boxes?
bob saget
09-09-08, 05:13 AM
What does it say under them inside the blue boxes?

it says "will make crysis playable without spending 3Gs on your rig" :)
Viral
09-09-08, 05:28 AM
What does it say under them inside the blue boxes?

Just 40nm on the GT212 and 55nm on the GT206.

Wish I could read whatever that new 9800GTX+ has though, looks like different specs compared to the current 9800GTX+.
Vasot02
09-09-08, 09:43 AM
If this is true
It seems that the GT206 will be released at the end of Q4 2008 (probably somewhere near December) and the GT212 at Q1 2009
CaptNKILL
09-09-08, 10:03 AM
If this is true
It seems that the GT206 will be released at the end of Q4 2008 (probably somewhere near December) and the GT212 at Q1 2009

Bahhh...
TheANIMAL
09-09-08, 10:26 AM
why the ****ed up numbers?
walterman
09-09-08, 10:48 AM
I just hope that they keep the 512bit bus & move to GDDR5 this time.
CaptNKILL
09-09-08, 11:06 AM
I'm hoping they do more to increase the fillrate with the next bunch of cards, rather than focusing on shader processing. Powerful SPs are good, but fill rate is still the limiting factor in 90% of situations.
slaWter
09-09-08, 12:06 PM
I just hope that they keep the 512bit bus & move to GDDR5 this time.

I agree. If not, I'm not going to upgrade. My plan is to get 1-2 additional GTX 280s with X58 and then wait for the DX11 generation. But a refresh with both the 512 Bit bus and fast GDDR5 might change that plan :P
CaptNKILL
09-09-08, 12:09 PM
I can't remember where I read it, but one of the features that nvidia plans to include with newer drivers is mixed SLI, so you could use different models of cards from the same series to work together in SLI. In that case, you could get a stanard gtx 280 now and then buy one of the improved cards later on for SLI.
Heinz68
09-09-08, 01:29 PM
why the ****ed up numbers?
I think they're the core numbers same like for the GTX 260 and 280 it was GT200.
slaWter
09-09-08, 02:23 PM
I can't remember where I read it, but one of the features that nvidia plans to include with newer drivers is mixed SLI, so you could use different models of cards from the same series to work together in SLI. In that case, you could get a stanard gtx 280 now and then buy one of the improved cards later on for SLI.

Well let's see how that'll work out. One thing for sure, I don't want to have a possible bottleneck because of an older card...
Heinz68
09-09-08, 03:21 PM
I can't remember where I read it, but one of the features that nvidia plans to include with newer drivers is mixed SLI, so you could use different models of cards from the same series to work together in SLI. In that case, you could get a stanard gtx 280 now and then buy one of the improved cards later on for SLI.
You might have read here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1770383&postcount=29) or many other places. It's part of the NVIDIA Big Bang 2 drivers.
Just in case you're in hurry ATI already has such option. j/k :)
hemmy
09-09-08, 04:57 PM
I just hope that they keep the 512bit bus & move to GDDR5 this time.

No way in hell both will happen

512 bit GDDR5 is ridiculous to expect.
walterman
09-09-08, 05:42 PM
No way in hell both will happen

512 bit GDDR5 is ridiculous to expect.

nVidia has been using GDDR3 since the 6800Ultra, and they still have not moved.

The 512bit bus is a must if you want to keep the 32 ROPs, cause, nVidia's ROPs are too weak compared to ATI's ROPs. And stronger ROPs means strong AA performance. More shading power won't help with the AA performance.

If they want to create a real 'big bang' this is what they should do.

Also, remember that traditionally, nVidia cards have seen big jumps in performance with the bandwidth increases.
k0py
09-19-08, 10:46 PM
nVidia has been using GDDR3 since the 6800Ultra, and they still have not moved.

The 512bit bus is a must if you want to keep the 32 ROPs, cause, nVidia's ROPs are too weak compared to ATI's ROPs. And stronger ROPs means strong AA performance. More shading power won't help with the AA performance.

If they want to create a real 'big bang' this is what they should do.

Also, remember that traditionally, nVidia cards have seen big jumps in performance with the bandwidth increases.

Since the 6600GT actually. Got one in my desk drawer from long ago. Clocked at a whopping 500mhz(1000mhz effective). http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150098
hemmy
09-20-08, 12:22 AM
^^^ The 6800 Ultra came out before the 6600GT

But back on topic, from a price perspective, 512bit AND GDDR5 ain't happening IMO

One or the other, but not both.

I will gladly welcome it, and if it does happen I will take back these comments, but I just don't see it.
Lfctony
09-21-08, 08:49 AM
I agree. If not, I'm not going to upgrade. My plan is to get 1-2 additional GTX 280s with X58 and then wait for the DX11 generation. But a refresh with both the 512 Bit bus and fast GDDR5 might change that plan :P

AFAIK you need an nForce board for 3xSLI@16x PCIe 2.0. Of course, you might not care at all... But, from my personal experience (it might be the board too, as it was a 750i vs my current 780i), SLI seems a little better on my current setup (16/16, was 16/8 on my 750i). So, you might want to stick to just 2 280s on your X58 board...
Fathertime36
09-23-08, 08:27 PM
I for one am sick and tired of getting this refresh jumble crap....next 261, then 262, then 263 etc each with 2-3% increase in peformance, then ahh hell then put 2gpus on same board and add gddr4 ram, then heck why not another version with gddr5 ram, then shrink the die and release it as a IDK? "REFRESHED" release then carry the improved die to next actual next generation....to me seems like they are selling us their R&D testbeds.

WTF was the 9xxx series about anyway? 9800"GTX" my butt, correct me if I'am mistaken but "GTX" has always reflected the absolute top of the line in performance for NVIDIA, yet my 8800gt would smoke it, the entire 9XXX was a farce, they were worse/same across the board in performance as the 8xxx, and 2-3 weeks later we have 2xx released.

One card each gen is my rule of thumb....they can take their minimal imp releases and shove up their unimproved arses.