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DRen72
09-14-08, 01:05 AM
Better, but not much.What do you run? I'm looking for something that loads faster.

crainger
09-14-08, 04:59 AM
I use Avast. It's free, scans emails and incoming net and P2P traffic and is fast. It's not THE best but it has a decent detection rate for the price. Plus it doesn't have a pesky Firewall to contend with.

mullet
09-14-08, 12:23 PM
Norton ahahaaaaa omg work in a call center and just the hint of the word norton will send most into rage or even better Mcafee. AVG Free FTW!!!!!!!!11111111111111

AthlonXP1800
09-14-08, 06:12 PM
What do you run? I'm looking for something that loads faster.

If you want anti-virus that loads faster, you are looking for is Norton 2009.

CaptNKILL
09-15-08, 10:28 AM
Come on guys, lets keep filth out of here. :p

I'm removing those posts...

nekrosoft13
09-15-08, 10:43 AM
What do you run? I'm looking for something that loads faster.

norton 09 loads really fast, same with endpoint

LovingSticky
09-15-08, 06:15 PM
I just scanned my system for the first time in about a year and got nothing.

And I'm online probably 90% of the time that I'm awake... :lol:

People with a brain do not need antivirus.

If your do not dowload warez (most with trojans in it), have a respectable email provider (with its own antivirus), and use your brain, there is no chance to get infected.

About once every 6 months I scan my computer with ONeCare, but real-time protection is for n00bs:
http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/default.htm

DRen72
09-15-08, 06:45 PM
People with a brain do not need antivirus.
Better to be safe than sorry. :)

CaptNKILL
09-15-08, 06:49 PM
Better to be safe than sorry. :)

To be honest, a virus that actually does anything to your system is extremely rare, even if you deliberately download trojan infected software it'll probably never even DO anything.

I can understand being safe, but I definitely wouldn't pay for it, nor would I sacrifice system performance.

six_storm
09-15-08, 08:17 PM
Symantec is a POS. Today makes the 10th "Antivirus XP" virus I've had to deal with since July and Symantec STILL cannot pick this stuff up. WTF?

AthlonXP1800
09-15-08, 08:37 PM
Symantec is a POS. Today makes the 10th "Antivirus XP" virus I've had to deal with since July and Symantec STILL cannot pick this stuff up. WTF?

Symantec is not a POS. Antivirus XP is not a virus, it is a spyware, I had it once years ago on my laptop when my dad installed Google toolbar that carried Antivirus XP spyware and I uninstalled Google toolbar then the spyware gone. You probably have Google toolbar installed or other application carried Antivirus XP spyware you are unawared of since July that need to be uninstalled to get rid of it.

six_storm
09-15-08, 09:32 PM
Symantec is not a POS. Antivirus XP is not a virus, it is a spyware, I had it once years ago on my laptop when my dad installed Google toolbar that carried Antivirus XP spyware and I uninstalled Google toolbar then the spyware gone. You probably have Google toolbar installed or other application carried Antivirus XP spyware you are unawared of since July that need to be uninstalled to get rid of it.

Not entirely true, AntiVirus XP 2008/2009 is spyware that carries a nice trojan around; they usually vary, I've only seen the same trojan twice. All 10 cases that I have put time into have not had any toolbars or any unusual programs installed. Most cases, it hasn't been extremely hard to get rid of the problem, but there have been a few that I've had to reformat and reinstall the OS. So why didn't Symantec pick this up? And if it did pick it up, why can't it delete the virus (properly)? From the viruses I've dealt with, AVG has caught and deleted more viruses and trojans than Symantec ever has. But hey, that's just my experience; other people might have better luck than me.

I'm actually doing some research into using IE7Pro in order to help harmful ads and scripts from popping up and downloading bad crap onto my clients' PCs.

Bearclaw
09-15-08, 09:50 PM
Not entirely true, AntiVirus XP 2008/2009 is spyware that carries a nice trojan around; they usually vary, I've only seen the same trojan twice. All 10 cases that I have put time into have not had any toolbars or any unusual programs installed. Most cases, it hasn't been extremely hard to get rid of the problem, but there have been a few that I've had to reformat and reinstall the OS. So why didn't Symantec pick this up? And if it did pick it up, why can't it delete the virus (properly)? From the viruses I've dealt with, AVG has caught and deleted more viruses and trojans than Symantec ever has. But hey, that's just my experience; other people might have better luck than me.

I'm actually doing some research into using IE7Pro in order to help harmful ads and scripts from popping up and downloading bad crap onto my clients' PCs.

Have your clients use FF + Adblock+ + NoScript.

six_storm
09-15-08, 11:36 PM
Have your clients use FF + Adblock+ + NoScript.

Well, 99% of our clients use IE so I was going to propose we install IE7Pro instead of switching everyone to FF. I would love everyone to use FF but the older folks don't like change . . . :rolleyes:

AthlonXP1800
09-15-08, 11:36 PM
Not entirely true, AntiVirus XP 2008/2009 is spyware that carries a nice trojan around; they usually vary, I've only seen the same trojan twice. All 10 cases that I have put time into have not had any toolbars or any unusual programs installed. Most cases, it hasn't been extremely hard to get rid of the problem, but there have been a few that I've had to reformat and reinstall the OS. So why didn't Symantec pick this up? And if it did pick it up, why can't it delete the virus (properly)? From the viruses I've dealt with, AVG has caught and deleted more viruses and trojans than Symantec ever has. But hey, that's just my experience; other people might have better luck than me.

I'm actually doing some research into using IE7Pro in order to help harmful ads and scripts from popping up and downloading bad crap onto my clients' PCs.

I probably do research faster than you do, it seem here is one anti-spyware tool called SpyHunter that will kill AntiVirus 2008/2009.

Here 2 links with instruction how to manually remove the mess AntiVirus 2008 and 2009 caused on your PC after use SpyHunter tool.

http://www.xp-vista.com/spyware-removal/xp-antivirus-2008-removal-instructions-xp-antivirus-2008
http://www.spywareremove.com/removeAntivirus2009.html

crainger
09-16-08, 12:05 AM
It's not a race Athlon.

Bearclaw
09-16-08, 12:08 AM
Well, 99% of our clients use IE so I was going to propose we install IE7Pro instead of switching everyone to FF. I would love everyone to use FF but the older folks don't like change . . . :rolleyes:

That's true. What makes it hard about FF + NoScript is you have to click it for EVERY site that you go to. People don't want that, but it sure is safe.

six_storm
09-16-08, 08:30 AM
That's true. What makes it hard about FF + NoScript is you have to click it for EVERY site that you go to. People don't want that, but it sure is safe.

Ha, most of my clients need to turn off their PC and never turn it back on but we know that won't happen ;) . I think my clients' biggest problems is that they can click on ANYTHING they see and won't get penalized for it. And the thing that pisses me off the worst is that when you can't clean off a virus (you have to reformat + reinstall the OS), the company gets pissed because that user is facing downtime. Well guess what? If your users didn't sit around all day on MySpace and actually did some work, we wouldn't be in this situation huh?

BTW, I wish SO bad that I could put a universal ban on FaceBook, MySpace and a few other non-work sites that probably contain viruses out the ying yang.

Athlon, thanks for the info. By the time I get around to doing more than 5 minutes of research on one thing at work, it's already time to go home. I get 20-40 service tickets a day and at least 2 of them are huge pain in the arses. :D

nekrosoft13
09-16-08, 08:57 AM
make a host file that blocks all the sites you don't want people to visit ;)

if they ask what happened tell them the site is down

six_storm
09-16-08, 09:53 AM
make a host file that blocks all the sites you don't want people to visit ;)

if they ask what happened tell them the site is down

I honestly would've done that months ago, but we only have so much power/say-so with our clients. My company does IT work for many, many clients across TN so it's not like we do IT work for just one company.

crainger
09-16-08, 06:32 PM
I sucks when you don't have power to act. In my first big IT job I thankfully had the power to block a whole bunch of sites. Not only that on the troublesome ones we installed monitoring software. Ended up having to block a whole more sites. WOW related ones were the most common.

LovingSticky
10-16-08, 12:17 PM
Despite my general hate for AV products, I was impressed today seeing NIS 2009 on friend's computer. It does look and perform great. Symantec/Norton was slow, bloated and buggy in 2006, 2007 releases, with HTML/Javascript front-end, but this one is lean, sexy, functional and really fast.

It seems like a really nice antivirus / antispam / firewall combo.

bacon12
10-16-08, 02:00 PM
I agree I updated my sisters to 2009 last week, and used her key to get it on vista. This is the best AV I have ever seen. The features are amazing, and I would recommend it to anyone looking for an AV product.

I don't need it thou, still have yet to find anything other than a tracking cookie on Vista, but it was free.

Vasot02
10-16-08, 02:19 PM
People with a brain do not need antivirus.


Do not say big words that you may regret later...

Vasot02
10-16-08, 02:29 PM
NOD32 is ok, but it's detection rate has fallen sharply in recent years. Plus the new Security Suite is a real resource hog.

Thats not exactly true
That most applies to the 2.x versions

The latest NOD32 3.0 generation has a way better detection system from the 2.x generation

The latest NOD32 3.0.672 is pretty good not only detects virus pretty easy but also it is pretty strong in detecting spyware

Do you know that the latest NERO 9.0 has spyware inside...the latest NOD32 version is from the few AV solutions that can detect this.