Crysis Warhead DX9 VS DX10

[gerardfraser]

DX9 VS DX 10

Looks like DX9 is the way to go.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1640/1920x1080eljd3.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1920x1080eljd3.jpg)
Enthusiast Level

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09/19/2008 19:55:05 - Windows Vista x64

DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST Map: avalanche 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 32.43 Max: 66.98 Avg: 47.58 ]



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Performance Level


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09/19/2008 20:05:52 - Windows Vista x64

DirectX 9.0c PERFORMANCE Map: avalanche 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 85.55 Max: 285.55 Avg: 221.97 ]


Here is the DX 10 benchmarks

Enthusiast Level DX 10

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1526/dx10elna6.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dx10elna6.jpg)

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09/21/2008 12:58:14 - Windows Vista x64

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST Map: avalanche 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 31.46 Max: 58.43 Avg: 43.45 ]



Performance Level DX10

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09/21/2008 13:03:24 - Windows Vista x64

DirectX 10 PERFORMANCE Map: avalanche 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 63.98 Max: 318.16 Avg: 230.54 ]

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Here are his links for his bench mark tool
Mr John over at incrysis has made this benchmark.

Requirements

Windows XP/Vista
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 (DOWNLOAD HERE (http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=262D25E3-F589-4842-8157-034D1E7CF3A3&displaylang=en))
Crysis WARHEAD (not included) tongue

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CHANGELOG
0.07 - 21/09/2008
Minor bug fixes

0.06 - 21/09/2008
Added CUSTOM config mode
Added feature to run DX9 and DX10 with different modes in same queue

0.05 - 19/09/2008
Added feature to run several tests
Added Installer/Uninstaller

0.04 - 19/09/2008
2 new timedemos
English translation
PERFORMANCE and MAINSTREAM modes included
Custom cvars support

0.01 - 19/09/2008
Initial release with 1 timedemo at ambush map
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The tool have support for 3 custom timedemos record at avalanche, ambush and frost maps.

Download links

FBWH Tool 0.07 Installer (Update 09/19/2008 23:50 GMT -0300)
DOWN LOAD TOOL HERE (http://cid-0459fc515f4928b3.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/FBWH.rar?wa=wsignin1.0)

The benchmark tool contains 3 timedemos named framebuffer.tmd that will be saved on folders Game\Levels\ambush, Game\Levels\avalanche and Game\Levels\frost

None of your Crysis Warhead files will be changed or removed, just the 3 timedemos will be saved on the folders above.

Have fun benchmarking your new game big_smile

[mailman2]

Once again DX10 loses. When are we gonna see this extra speed, less clutter come through? :( Wasnt dx10 was supposed to be faster?

[Lfctony]

Warhead is about 20% slower in DX10 Enthusiast for me as well...

[FastRedPonyCar]

you guys even had to ask? NOTHING Has changed!

[jAkUp]

To me it seems like AA is not working in DX9, can anyone confirm this?

[lee63]

To me it seems like AA is not working in DX9, can anyone confirm this?
Neither aa or v-sync work in DX9 :( for me anyway

[slivski]

aa/af work great for me (dx9)

[methimpikehoses]

To me it seems like AA is not working in DX9, can anyone confirm this?

Works for me...

[Jammer]

The difference between DX10 and DX9 is abysmal on my box:

DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: airfield flythrough @ 8 1680 x 1050 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 15.58 Max: 33.87 Avg: 26.37 ]

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: airfield flythrough @ 8 1680 x 1050 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 9.28 Max: 23.19 Avg: 19.05 ]

That's the difference between playable and stuttering mess... same thing w/ the original Crysis (extreme dx9 vs. very high dx10) and Stalker CS. I'm beginning to think HybridPower may be partly responsible...

Edit: Not sure why my sig ain't showin' up, here are my specs:
Phenom X4 9850@2.8G / Asus M3N-HT Deluxe/HDMI / XFX 9800GTX+ / 4GB G.Skill @ Cas4 / Vista64

[skullbr]

Works for me...

Doesn't work for me.. its clear in roads that AA is OFF.....

BTW, gerardfraser, what program are you using in the sidebar to show all those info about your pc?

[Lfctony]

Nm, AA is not applied during the benchmark for some reason. It works properly from within the game...

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09/27/2008 16:14:45 - Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1

DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 0xx
==> Framerate [ Min: 20.61 Max: 67.54 Avg: 45.57 ]

DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1680 x 1050 AA 0xx
==> Framerate [ Min: 15.36 Max: 48.92 Avg: 34.50 ]

[$n][pErMan]

AA and Vsync are working for me in DX9 mode... Maybe its because im using older drivers?

[wizkid]

[pErMan;1790354']AA and Vsync are working for me in DX9 mode... Maybe its because im using older drivers?

Works for me just fine and im using the newest officials.

[gerardfraser]

Doesn't work for me.. its clear in roads that AA is OFF.....

BTW, gerardfraser, what program are you using in the sidebar to show all those info about your pc?

Hey there the program is called Everest
http://www.lavalys.com/

[Acid Rain]

Once again DX10 loses. When are we gonna see this extra speed, less clutter come through? :( In DX9 the physics are nerfed, though, aren't they? I won't play in 9, but a buddy said the physics are nerfed. I geuss I'll check it out...

[Soetdjuret]

It's not nerfed... u can have the same physis in dx10.

[aceflier]

Either crap dx10 optimization or crap dx10sli?

Image taken 1920x1080 all settings enthusiasts 4xAA

DX10
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9879/screenshot0042jj7.jpg

DX9
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8748/screenshot0043gq6.jpg

I do like the dx10 motion blur but at this setting its unplayable for me less than 28fps in the last battle.

[FastRedPonyCar]

Dude it's a well known fact since the first week crysis was released that you get a significant drop in FPS when running in DX10.

Just use a custom configuration file like everyone else and run the game in DX9 mode. The blur effect may not be quite up to par with DX10 rendering but you'll get everything else DX10 offers.

[Tr1cK]

I can't wait til people quit making a fuss over this ****ty engine.

[FastRedPonyCar]

I can't wait til people quit making a fuss over this ****ty engine.

The engine itself is absolutely astonishing. The physics have their quirks here and there but by and large, they just released the engine too soon IMO. I think the 8800 GTS/GTX cards should have been the minimum required card to run this game and I think that waiting until now would have been a better choice to help reduce the amount of gamers they forced to run at very low resolutions.

I'm dissapointed at the DX10 performance but then again, every game that is DX10 capable runs slower in DX10 mode except for the unreal engine games like GOW and Bioshock but those stay locked at 60 fps all the time so the machine really isn't being challenged in the first place.

I think Clear sky is a step in the right direction but the FPS difference in games like call of juarez, lost planet, crysis, etc when using DX10 vs DX9 is night and day difference in performance.

Makes me think it's not these game engines fault but DX10's fault.. or maybe just a fundamental lack of understanding of DX10 coding. Who knows. I'm no coder so I don't know much about any of that. All I know is that the unreal engine is the only engine that can successfully run in DX10 mode without a major drop in FPS.

[Logical]

I can't wait til people quit making a fuss over this ****ty engine.

+1

I can neither understand the fuss of such a badly optimised game. If i wanted to stare at palm trees and water all day i would have a pic of the maldives on my desktop. :cool:

/puts on flameproof jacket

[Soetdjuret]

+1

I can neither understand the fuss of such a badly optimised game. If i wanted to stare at palm trees and water all day i would have a pic of the maldives on my desktop. :cool:

/puts on flameproof jacket

Its not bad optimized you idiot. Its the way the levels are designed along with its huge amount of demanding technologies. You can't even compare it to the half-life or cod games or the bioshock and GoW type of games. There is a good reason for why the game is demanding.

If i wan't to stare at palmleaves all day i'd just run crysis...



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[evox]

I can't wait til people quit making a fuss over this ****ty engine.
****ty engine? Are you kidding? CE2 is a brilliant accomplishment in terms of both technology and graphics. So it doesn't give 75FPS in DirectX10, big deal. Crysis's performance is pretty good considering the insanely detailed graphics it churns out. Kudos to Crytek for pushing the graphics of this generation, atleast they aren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs like Epic/Ubisoft.

[gerardfraser]

New drivers closing the gap some.180.43

Updated drivers and checked out my 9800GTX+ cards,I love my 9800GTX+ cards.
They are as fast if not faster then 280GTX in SLI with no AA I must add.


DX9 1920x1200

http://img1.hugeup.com/t/10282008/e2158b09.jpg (http://hugeup.com/v/e2158b09)

MIN=24.49
AVG=58.81
MAX=83.97


DX10 1920x1200

http://img1.hugeup.com/t/10282008/13683.jpg (http://hugeup.com/v/13683)

MIN=0 whats up with that lol
AVG=52.04
MAX=76.43

[Nuker_]

Its not bad optimized you idiot. Its the way the levels are designed along with its huge amount of demanding technologies. You can't even compare it to the half-life or cod games or the bioshock and GoW type of games. There is a good reason for why the game is demanding.

If i wan't to stare at palmleaves all day i'd just run crysis...



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Word. Crysis is orders of magnitudes better looking than those crappy UE3 games and CoD4 (seems like COD4s gfx are the worst overestimated piece of crap ever seen). But is crysis fps orders of magnitudes worse than those games? No. Thus is crysis better optimized.