CUDA made Nvidia lose its graphics crown?

[josiahsuarez]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9788&Itemid=1
It took us a while and now we understand why Nvidia is actually doing CUDA. Long term if they make people buy a computer in retail store just because it has a graphics card and their Facebook and Picasa will work better, Nvidia will achieve its goal and earn some extra money out of its graphics.


This still doesn’t change the fact that Nvidia lives from gamers and neglecting them won't actually help Nvidia get faster to this non gaming market. Nvidia has allocated too many brains and resources from its primary target gaming and graphics to mainstream computing and therefore it managed to lost its market dominance to ATI.

ATI has the technology lead with its 55nm process, DirectX 10.1 and the performance is now at ATI’s hand. Nvidia now realizes that they lost.

GT200 series didn’t shine and RV770 chips from ATI were much better than Nvidia expected and ATI caught Nvidia off guard. Now Nvidia is doing a lot of refocusing as they try to shape up things but the way we see it, Nvidia has a chance to regain the complete confidence and beat ATI in its game in Q2 2009 not before. Nvidia might pull a stunt or two before, but we don’t expect anything miraculous.

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[zer0]

not everybody does high-end gaming.

most people use myspace.

that's business.

[Bman212121]

Wait, so an ATi 4870 is faster than a GTX 280? :rolleyes:

[Revs]

Here we go. :D

(popcorn)

[nekrosoft13]

Wait, so an ATi 4870 is faster than a GTX 280? :rolleyes:

sure, why not :headexplode:

it would take a miracle for me to go back to multi-gpu setup right now.

fastest single chip is where it is at

[jimmyjames123]

NVIDIA really does need to focus on getting dominant in graphics performance again. If you look at their history, financially they are very successful when they have the clear performance crown. But when they don't, their stock price starts to fall, and consumer confidence in their product starts to fall. They've made billions of dollars in profits over the years by dominating in the graphics card performance arena. This is their bread and butter, and high focus needs to be put in this area.

[Heinz68]

sure, why not :headexplode:

it would take a miracle for me to go back to multi-gpu setup right now.

fastest single chip is where it is at
SURE. All that miracle has to have is a NVIDIA sticker. :)

j/k The fact is sooner or later anybody looking for top performance card is going to have multi GPU single card.

I'm not talking about SLI or Crossfire since I believe single card is better and cheaper solution.

PS
All the nei sayers don't forget to mark my words.

[Butter Bandit]

it would take a miracle for me to go back to multi-gpu setup right now.

fastest single chip is where it is at

+1

Although, my only experience with SLI was back when I had two Geforce 6800 GTs...and honestly, I couldn't tell much of a performance increase at all. That, combined with the countless number of glitches I ran into completely killed my interest in multi-GPU solutions.

[einstein_314]

sure, why not :headexplode:

it would take a miracle for me to go back to multi-gpu setup right now.

fastest single chip is where it is at
+2

I went SLI back in the 7800GTX days and honestly, it wasn't that much of a problem. But a single GPU is so much easier.

[ViN86]

tbh, id rather have CUDA than a better performing GPU atm. the potential that CUDA brings is incredible.

if you look at what has already been done with Photoshop CS4 you will know what i mean.

[Heinz68]

n/m

[josiahsuarez]

I think GPGPU/CUDA as a long term strategy has alot of potential for Nvidia. but short term they've obviously taken a hit this generation. ideally they would just hire some new engineers to work on CUDA rather than bleeding their graphics teams. they need to be able to do both things well at the same time.

[ViN86]

I think GPGPU/CUDA as a long term strategy has alot of potential for Nvidia. but short term they've obviously taken a hit this generation. ideally they would just hire some new engineers to work on CUDA rather than bleeding their graphics teams. they need to be able to do both things well at the same time.

lol it's a company, it's about distributing resources properly.

[Ninja Prime]

tbh, id rather have CUDA than a better performing GPU atm. the potential that CUDA brings is incredible.

if you look at what has already been done with Photoshop CS4 you will know what i mean.

Yeah, think of all the cool things the average user can do with it!

Like, uhhh, errr, yeah. The average user doesn't give a sh*t about CUDA, because it really has no benefits for the average user.

[bacon12]

Not having intel sli boards has hurt nvidia badly, and it was foolish to think they could lean on them and they would gain anything by that.

How many gpu sales were lost because of that is not a known number but I would imagine it is more than one would think.

[parasiteeve]

Wait, so an ATi 4870 is faster than a GTX 280? :rolleyes:

In certain games with high ammounts of AA and AF yes, and at a fraction of the cost.

[nekrosoft13]

SURE. All that miracle has to have is a NVIDIA sticker. :)



your opinion is automatically void after comments like that

[nekrosoft13]

tbh, id rather have CUDA than a better performing GPU atm. the potential that CUDA brings is incredible.

if you look at what has already been done with Photoshop CS4 you will know what i mean.

will be upgrading my photoshop cs2 to cs4 ;), plus waiting for new TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress to bring CUDA support. right on in beta stage.

[hell_of_doom227]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9788&Itemid=1


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GTX200 owns 4800 series in my book and from my experience.

[hell_of_doom227]

In certain games with high ammounts of AA and AF yes, and at a fraction of the cost.


Nope, i think a lot of people are misleaded. That fraction of cost is worth over crap called ATI Drivers and CCC.

[Tr1cK]

Nope, i think a lot of people are misleaded. That fraction of cost is worth over crap called ATI Drivers and CCC.

I think a lot of people are illiterate.

[hell_of_doom227]

NVIDIA really does need to focus on getting dominant in graphics performance again. If you look at their history, financially they are very successful when they have the clear performance crown. But when they don't, their stock price starts to fall, and consumer confidence in their product starts to fall. They've made billions of dollars in profits over the years by dominating in the graphics card performance arena. This is their bread and butter, and high focus needs to be put in this area.

GTX260 faster then HD4850
GTX280 faster then HD4870
GTX280 SLI faster then HD4870X2 or HD4870 Crossfire

I don't see any problems with GTX200 series.

[hell_of_doom227]

I think a lot of people are illiterate.

:p I'm glad you admit it.

[Red_Shift]

Fudzilla? Give me a break, this guy is a joke. The performance crown usually shifts between nVidia and ATI cause they have different development cycles, only in the past 2 years ATI lagged behind, but it usually isn't like that.
And not realizing the full potential of CUDA shows how an epic fail this guy is. CUDA is one of the best innovations of the decade. It's putting scientific research, that requires computational processing, on a whole new level. And yes it also impacts the gaming community, PhysX was implemented through CUDA for e.g.


GTX260 faster then HD4850
GTX280 faster then HD4870
GTX280 SLI faster then HD4870X2 or HD4870 Crossfire

I don't see any problems with GTX200 series.
Price? Cause then it's:
GTX260 vs HD4870
GTX280 vs HD4870X2

[Tr1cK]

GTX260 faster then HD4850
GTX280 faster then HD4870
GTX280 SLI faster then HD4870X2 or HD4870 Crossfire

I don't see any problems with GTX200 series.

FAIL!
I know you're just a fanboy with your overpriced over built rig to do nothing but play Crysis and Vantage on, so I don't expect much.

The comparison is supposed to be:
9800+ = 4850
GTX 260 = 4870
GTX280 = 4870x2

Performance per dollar, ATI is currently beating Nvidia. Practically every single review site has said this.

On topic: CUDA is a great step forward for any body.