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CaptnStubing
10-09-08, 11:30 AM
Post things you would like fixed in Warhammer here.


My number one complain in RvR is the wall exploit. Any class that has a turret can put their turret next to a wall and it will shoot through all walls. Engies are notorious for this. AoE also can go through walls. As a result bright wizards and Sorceress can AoE at the keep gate and keep people from using the ram. It is a cheap exploit that War needs to fix.


Another issue I have with RvR is terrain exploits. People constantly are getting past the keep gates through gliching over the terrain.

Most of the game is in pretty good order but some adjustments need to be made.

Ninjaman09
10-09-08, 11:39 AM
Lost interest in the game after one day.

Grinding BGs is something I can do in WoW and it has good PVE too.

CaptnStubing
10-09-08, 12:14 PM
Lost interest in the game after one day.

Grinding BGs is something I can do in WoW and it has good PVE too.

I don't view it as grinding. I view it as killing the enemy each time I see them. When you get higher in levels there is more RvR and that is much more fun than BGs. Trying to take over a flag that is inside a bar or a keep is fun as hell. It is completely different than the BGs.

Ninjaman09
10-09-08, 12:18 PM
I don't view it as grinding. I view it as killing the enemy each time I see them. When you get higher in levels there is more RvR and that is much more fun than BGs. Trying to take over a flag that is inside a bar or a keep is fun as hell. It is completely different than the BGs.

Dude, it's EXACTLY the same as BGs. I know it's easy to lose sight of that given the novelty and all, but what you do in WAR is no different from WoW as far as PvP is concerned. The only difference would be the open world city raids which have yet to materialize. Maybe once the game has some time to grow and new patches and content are added it will differentiate itself but for now it's just plain boring.

CaptnStubing
10-09-08, 12:38 PM
Dude, it's EXACTLY the same as BGs. I know it's easy to lose sight of that given the novelty and all, but what you do in WAR is no different from WoW as far as PvP is concerned. The only difference would be the open world city raids which have yet to materialize. Maybe once the game has some time to grow and new patches and content are added it will differentiate itself but for now it's just plain boring.

I didn't say the SCs were different. I said I view it as killing the enemy each time I see them. I don't think of it as a grind to get gear.

RvR is far more fun than BGs and SCs. It is a blast trying to take over keeps.

The biggest advantage War has over WoW is no druids. Tanks are actually tanks in War PVP. They are harder to kill. This forces you to go after their healers. In WoW magic can take out a tank easily. This is not the case in War. In every way War's PVP is better and it has the added advantage of not being WoW. You don't have the stupid looking metrosexual armor and weapons. No murloc talk in chat and no Chuck Norris talk.

The higher you go up the more fun the game becomes. I was where you were when I started but it changed. Tier 1 is boring as hell. T2 is ok but T3 is much more fun. You also have much more RvR. I don't know how long I will play War but right now I am having fun.

Ninjaman09
10-09-08, 02:04 PM
Tier 1 is boring as hell.
That's my problem there, I never progressed past tier 1. Still, I have no motivation to continue. I knew I should have used that coupon for Iron Man on Bluray instead, dammit! :p

Tr1cK
10-09-08, 02:45 PM
You're not giving the game enough time Ninja. You're just more comfortable in WoW and that's understandable. I might go back to play it some with some friends when 3.0 launches.


Anyways as far as Warhammer goes, the turret damage is laughable. Turrets are always lower rank than the Engineer and IMO they are next to worthless. Engineers and I believe Magus are just jokes in RvR. The single target damage is a joke and I gave up on my Engineer until they get some love. I was getting owned by most classes even if they were a level or 2 below me. I've never felt more useless in an MMO than when playing this class. While it's a fun playstyle and decent in PvE, the game is based around RvR where all classes should be able to hold their own ground.

I'd even get a jump on the fight and have my Flame Turret down first, fire a gun blast, then apply 4 DOTs and attempt to kite. Healers out heal the slow damage and DOTs give no push-back or interrupts. Tanks just have enough health and damage that I can't barely phase them. On that note, I rolled an Ironbreaker and am having fun again.

Monolyth
10-09-08, 03:40 PM
I like the game so far despite seeing many bugs, exploits. But overall I think it is a nice change to finally have a game that promotes PvP over everything else. I'm still Tier 2 (dinged to 17 last night), but the SC's pop enough that I barely get 1-2 quests in. There are some SC's I just avoid since people don't know how to play them (CTF for example).

I like Mourkain Temple (artifact SC), it pops often and the scores can change so quickly when you get someone good w/the artifact. I also like that even if the enemy turtles w/the artifact you can still win just by absolutely destroying them. :) Had a 200-450 game going then me & 2 other SHs focus fired healers down and one of our Black Orcs grabbed the artifact. We wound up winning the map 500-489, that was awesome.

I'd say my biggest complaint is class balance and the fact that no Rally Masters exist with Flight Points! I feel much more confident in the balance issues considering that WAR doesn't have to worry about balancing mastery's in PvE. ;)

|MaguS|
10-09-08, 03:46 PM
Order classes suck

/thread

Tr1cK
10-09-08, 03:49 PM
no Rally Masters exist with Flight Points!

THIS!

Xav
10-09-08, 04:00 PM
Lost interest in the game after one day.

Grinding BGs is something I can do in WoW and it has good PVE too.

Guess it depends on if you are an altaholic and how long you've been playin the game. After 4+years I've seen all WoW has to offer and the PvP in WAR gives me more options...open areas AND "BG"s.

It's ok to love da WoW though :)

Xav
10-09-08, 04:02 PM
Order classes suck

/thread

I play Destro and Order and have to

/disagree

Tr1cK
10-09-08, 04:06 PM
I play Destro and Order and have to

/disagree

/concur

People have delusions that the career choices between the factions are totally different and unbalanced while this couldn't be further from the truth.

CaptnStubing
10-09-08, 04:12 PM
THIS!

I never thought about this but you are right. That would be a good change. The only problem I have is I don't do many PQs any more. I only do them if they have a really good upgrade for me.

Tyr-Sog
10-09-08, 06:29 PM
Couple of things...

-Takes a bit long to log in.
-Accepting the eula everytime is kinda retarded.
-Mail System mechanics are kinda sluggish. To the point where I don't even bother auctioning green stuff any more becasue I hate checking the mail.
-Auction System is kinda blah.
-Not enough Flight Paths?
-For a MMO, there's hardley any communication(non guilded granted), even in scenerios. At least on my server.
-The only reason I'm reminded I'm playing a MMO is the WALL of blue text from spam. :/
-Character mechanics seem a little sluggish. Or maybe the timing is off?
-Lack of PVE may be catching up becasue I find scenerios starting to get boring(at lvl 20).
-I've yet to see any city sieging, back to the poor chat system? Hard to assemble a battle, I dunno?
-Game performance not as smooth as it should be(maybe my fault from settings?). Seems like the CPU is cranking tho.
-No official forums

slick
10-09-08, 06:30 PM
Order classes suck

/thread

Do expand on this idea please.

I was under the impression that we have the best tank, the best healer, and the best DPS class.

At least that's what destro keeps crying about on our server.

|MaguS|
10-09-08, 07:45 PM
The Witch Elf class is far better DPS then anything on the order side... I have been looking for a good melee DPS on the Order and they all suck. All the order Melee are tank based, the Witch Hunter is the closest one and even then they don't nearly do as much dmg as the Witch Elf class.

I was able to out agro 7 people in a Public Quest Boss and get first place in ranking by more then 500 points... that class is nuts.

Tyr-Sog
10-09-08, 10:25 PM
I dunno. In tier 2 scenerios it seems like BW lead the packs. I will honestly say 8/10 I'll place first as far as damage is done. If not first second and that's becasue I was on D or messing around. Usually the other BW are up in the top five also.

have a 1/2 dozen or so screenies with all similar results.

I'm Sisma

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Another one:

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|MaguS|
10-09-08, 10:27 PM
Im talking about melee DPS, not casters... dmg casters will always out Dmg a melee class.

Badboy_12345
10-10-08, 12:03 AM
Bright wizard.. the class that 50% of the order plays...

Thats one that needs balancing

lIqUID
10-10-08, 12:05 AM
XP is too low for quests in t3-t4. It took me 2 days to hit level 20. I am on a mid/mid pop server with not a ton of scenarios popping but still 2000 xp for alevel 10 quest and 2000 xp for a level 20 quest is retarded.

I canceled and picked up WOW for another month, don't get me wrong WAR is amazing and if they fix leveling and some other minor annoyances I'll drop WOW like a bad habit.

Tr1cK
10-10-08, 07:38 AM
The cap is 40, you want it in 4 days or something? You're nuts. The experience gains are OK.

Monolyth
10-10-08, 11:19 AM
20 in 2 days (play-time or real-time?) is pretty darn good. But it will get harder, the game is focused on PvP that is why the exp gains in PvP are so much greater then questing. While the game shares some aspects of WoW, it is not WoW.

Tier 1 didn't pop 1/2 as much as Tier 2, I suspect I am probably in the "sweet spot" as far as general server ranks. I fully expect that to decline once I hit Tier 3 as I do level faster then most.

I found another issue with the game last night. Many of my Tier 2 quests have started to "merge" with the PQ kill quests. The problem with this is that once the kill quest portion of the PQ is completed they usually despawn all the mobs that you needed for your regular quest and then spawn champions or heroes. So then I gotta wait 6-10mins for it the fail (if someone isn't doing it.

CaptnStubing
10-10-08, 11:21 AM
Bright wizard.. the class that 50% of the order plays...

Thats one that needs balancing

When you get into T2 and T3 bright wizards are not a problem any more. They spend half their time running for their lives so they can't sit back and lolz pwnt nubs at lvl 2. Things balance out nicely the higher you go. I really like the PVP in this game. They just need to fine tune the exploits.

Rakeesh
10-10-08, 03:12 PM
The biggest advantage War has over WoW is no druids. Tanks are actually tanks in War PVP. They are harder to kill. This forces you to go after their healers. In WoW magic can take out a tank easily.

This isn't exactly true. See, I play a druid in wow, namely I play a restokin build while doing pvp. Healing in wow is just like tanking, especially as a restokin or all out resto druid. Believe me when I say that in pvp, healing draws tons of agro. And NOTHING can kill me, but I can dot the crap out of anything and kite it til its dead.

Srsly I go around stormwind ganking flagged people by myself, and when I get like 8 people ganging up on me I just hop into the canals until I lose them. If I can't lose them I run into the stockades. I never die.

I know. All of this is exactly why you hate druids :D

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=The+Forgotten+Coast&n=Rakeesh