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Nv40
05-19-03, 08:49 PM
the GeforceFx59900 non-ultra looks the best choice , only $399
and will have the same core/memory clocks as the Fx5900ultra.

the one in the reivew overclocks upto..->524/957Mhz Core/Mem Clock!! :)

256megs doesnt sems to do much in heavy games benchamrks i have seen..

http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/NVIDIA/FX5900U/page11.htm




NVIDIA has addressed several issues with their NV30 and came out with NV35 barely 3 months later and i would say NVIDIA got it right this time. NV35 is built on NV30 architecture and it is interesting to note how different they are in terms of performance with just just several architecture enhancements. Unlike ATi's R300 and R350, we don't see a major boost in performance since R350 is just an enhanced version of the R300 architecture. I guess NVIDIA engineers had found several key performance limiting factors on NV30 core that are unable to fix through software means (Detonator driver) and quickly come out with NV35 to solve those issues. One of the key limiting factor is definitely the 128-bit memory interface that create a bottleneck on the memory especially with AA and AF enabled therefore the 256-bit memory bus is naturally the best solution for the NV35. Also the improved efficiency of the pixel shader units and better memory optimizations techniques allow NV35 to emerge much stronger.

There will be 3 productsto be built on NV35 core with highest performing GeForce FX 5900 Ultra stood at 450Mhz core clock and 850Mhz memory clock. The FX 5900 Ultra will be equipped with 256MB and priced at US$499 which offers a better value for performance over the Radeon 9800 Pro with 256MB since GeForce FX 5900 Ultra is clearly faster in most benchmarks with or without AA/AF enabled. There is a non-Ultra version that comes with 128MB with same core/memory clock as the Ultra and will be priced at US$399 as well and again it offers better value for performance than the current Radeon 9800 Pro with 128MB. The last and rather mysterious value edition of the NV35 with lower core/memory clock and 128MB of memory will be priced at US$299 and most probably it is targeted at Radeon 9800 with the same price line. For the high performance and enthusiasts segment, NVIDIA certainly offers a more superior range than ATi. Of course, ATi will counter back with an updated R360 core packed with more enhancements in the third quarter but will still be manufactured on the 0.15 micron process.




http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/NVIDIA/FX5900U/page13.htm

BigFish7
05-20-03, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by Nv40
the GeforceFx59900 non-ultra looks the best choice , only $399
and will have the same core/memory clocks as the Fx5900ultra.

the one in the reivew overclocks upto..->524/957Mhz Core/Mem Clock!! :)

256megs doesnt sems to do much in heavy games benchamrks i have seen..

http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/NVIDIA/FX5900U/page11.htm





http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/NVIDIA/FX5900U/page13.htm

i want to see the first user who puts an H20 kit on this baby and hit the volt whlie achieving the 600/1000 speeds :eek: then i would like to see the results ;)

GlowStick
05-20-03, 01:10 PM
Yeah i cant wait for the CoolFX to be unleasehd on em!

ReDeeMeR
05-20-03, 03:10 PM
30+ Bandwith godness! I really dont care about water cooling as I dont want to see it leaking one day, but even without water it o/c very nicely, hope they'll add big heatsinks so I can put on some cpu cooler and o/c away! :D

bkswaney
05-21-03, 03:16 AM
I've been using water cooling for 2 years now.
If your a real tech head "like me" and your careful
you will not have any leaks. I have never had one.

The NV35 should reach 550+ with good cooling.
It's pretty much a NV30 core and they go way up there. :)
I can run mine at 560. I run it at 550/1100 all the time.
The FLOWFX does offer top cooling. :)
It's the best air cooling I've ever seen. If nvidia could
have made it quiter they would have had a big hit.
Tho it's not that loud. Well, not like some make it out to be.
I hardly even notice it.

Nv40
05-21-03, 05:44 AM
they overclock a lot that card and never tested games ,but only @#$@mark .. sight!

it would be nice to see WOrld records in UnrealT2003 , 10%-15% will be great.. from 20%-30% impressive... :)

Lucien1964
05-21-03, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Nv40
the GeforceFx59900 non-ultra looks the best choice , only $399
and will have the same core/memory clocks as the Fx5900ultra.

the one in the reivew overclocks upto..->524/957Mhz Core/Mem Clock!! :)

256megs doesnt sems to do much in heavy games benchamrks i have seen..

http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/NVIDIA/FX5900U/page11.htm



http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/NVIDIA/FX5900U/page13.htm

Only 399.!!!!!!!!!!You have got to be kidding me.Anybody who pays 400 bucks for a video card has issues.

GlowStick
05-21-03, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Lucien1964
Only 399.!!!!!!!!!!You have got to be kidding me.Anybody who pays 400 bucks for a video card has issues.

How so, 399$ isnt a high price to pay for a video card at all. Infact the total cost of high end computers has gone down drmasticly.

jAkUp
05-21-03, 05:01 PM
$399 is the normal price for a new video card.

bkswaney
05-21-03, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by jAkUp
$399 is the normal price for a new video card.

Yep... 399 for a high end 128mb card.
The extra 100 is for 256megs of memory. :)
I was hoping for a 449 price tag myself.
I think I'm going to wait till July to get a NV35
and hope the price drops 60 or so bucks by then.

My bigest problem is what card to buy. :D
I would like better cooling than the factory one.


Does anyone know if 3rd partys are making the cards or is it like the NV30 and only NV is making them?
I hope the 3rd party companies are making there own.
Nvidia is to slow getting them out. ;)

GlowStick
05-21-03, 05:33 PM
3rd partys are makeing the nv35's, i am assumeing because MSI uses the Red PCB, and they had their 'cool' looking cooler with a fan on the back, so yes.

bkswaney
05-21-03, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by GlowStick
3rd partys are makeing the nv35's, i am assumeing because MSI uses the Red PCB, and they had their 'cool' looking cooler with a fan on the back, so yes.


Cool. :) :)

Yes the MSI looks mean. I cannot wait to see with the other do. :D

Nv40
05-21-03, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by bkswaney
Cool. :) :)

Yes the MSI looks mean. I cannot wait to see with the other do. :D


according to Guru3d charts with less Overclock in unrealT2k3 in the Nv35 increase was 11fps at highest RES. and settings.. :)
with the overclock above.. the Nv35 should be easily close to 15fps and
even more.. :)

with watercolling i think the card can be close to the 600mhz/600 barrier.
enough power to hold the performance crown until the Nv40 :)


Btw..its interesting to see how quickly they went with the Nv35 ,
close to Nv30 speeds ,with more transistors ,a 256bit bus and without
the Fan of Nv30. without delays!!! Nvidia jump to IBM definively was the right choice for their next generation GPus.. :)