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mojoman0
10-28-08, 03:37 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/28/windows-7-details-galore-interface-tweaks-netbook-builds-medi/

Looks like a lot of visual interface changes:

Microsoft's Windows 7 announcement earlier today was followed up by an extensive demo of the new features during the PDC keynote, and since then even more info about the new OS has flooded out, so we thought we'd try to wrap up some of the more important bits here for you. Microsoft seems to have done an impressive job at this early pre-beta stage, folding in next-gen interface ideas like multitouch into the same OS that apparently runs fine on a 1GHz netbook with 1GB of RAM, but we'll see how development goes -- there's still a ways to go. Some notes:

Obviously, the big news is the new taskbar, which forgoes text for icons and has new "jump lists" of app controls and options you can access with a right-click. You can select playlists in Media Player, for example. Super cool: when you scrub over the icons, all the other app windows go transparent so you can "peek" at the windows you're pointing at.

Gadgets now appear on the desktop -- the sidebar has been killed. That makes more sense for all those laptop owners out there with limited screen space, and you can still see gadgets anytime by peeking at the desktop, rendering all other windows transparent.

Window resizing and management now happens semi-automatically: dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes it, pulling it down restores; dragging a window to the edges auto-resizes it to 50% for quick tiling. Nifty.
The system tray now only displays what you explicitly say it should -- everything else is hidden, and the controls have been streamlined.
User Account Control settings are now much more fine-grained -- you can set them by app and by level of access.

They demoed multitouch features on an HP TouchSmart PC -- it was pretty cool, although the usual nagging "what is this good for / that'll get old fast" concerns weren't really addressed. The Start menu gets 25 percent bigger when using touch to make it easier to handle, and apps will all get scroll support automatically. There's also a giant on-screen predictive keyboard. Again -- could be amazing, but we won't know until it's out in the wild.
We've always known Microsoft intends Windows 7 to run on netbooks, and we got a small taste during the PDC keynote: Windows SVP Steve Sinofsky held up his "personal" laptop running Windows 7, an unnamed 1GHz netbook with 1GB of RAM that looked a lot like an Eee PC, and said that it still had about half its memory free after boot. (We're guessing it was running a VIA Nano, since most Atoms run at 1.6GHz.)

At the other end of the scale, Windows 7 supports machines with up to 256 CPUs.
Multiple-monitor management is much-improved, as is setting up projectors -- it's a hotkey away. Remote Desktop now works with multiple monitors as well.
Media Center has been tweaked as well -- it looks a lot more like the Zune interface. There's also a new Mini Guide when watching video, and a new Music Wall album artwork screensaver that kicks in when you're playing music.

Devs got a pre-beta today; a "pretty good" feature complete beta is due early next year. No word at all on when it'll be released to market apart from that "three years from Vista" date we've known forever.

npras42
10-28-08, 03:56 PM
I was just about to post this. Read all the articles at the bottom of the engadget article and I'm impressed. The new taskbar, system tray, window management, Media Center, networking, even for the first time in my life I can say I'm looking forward to a Media Player that opens videos in a simple mode and in preview panes. I'm not so hot on the design of the Start Menu (I actually really like the one in Vista, I was using the classic menu in XP) and couldn't give a rat's ass about Paint, and a couple of other things.

It all looks very refined, and if they are able to run it on a 1GHz netbook with 1GB RAM with all the facy stuff still functional then it must be at least fairly lean. We've all heard Microsoft's claims before but this is a new kind of spiel they are boasting about now... If they can get a fair few features in to the beta then I would surely give it a go even before the final release - and again that's the first time I've ever considered that from an MS OS.

johnkeel105
10-28-08, 04:00 PM
This is impressive. Improving upon Vista is a good idea. There are many features of it I like. If the performance is as good as it sounds then I cant wait for Windows 7!

CAUTION
10-28-08, 04:14 PM
This is great news, I will be standing in line on Release Day !!

nekrosoft13
10-28-08, 04:45 PM
i hope MS release full feature guide when windows 7 goes beta.

when vista hit beta, MS released 303 page guide explaining all features.

crainger
10-28-08, 06:06 PM
Wonder how upgrade copies will work. Will we have to install XP, then Vista, then 7?!

I wish they'd bring back a quick media check like XP did.

Or will they just have 7, no upgrade, just full 7?

Swift response please nekro.

npras42
10-28-08, 06:11 PM
I didn't think you could ever upgrade an upgrade. If you bought Vista Upgrade then doesn't that usually mean it is the end of the line for you?

crainger
10-28-08, 06:14 PM
No. I went from 98 upgrade to XP upgrade, to Vista upgrade. Vista was the first that required the previous OS installed though. XP just needed a media check.

Bearclaw
10-28-08, 06:32 PM
256 CPU's! I need to buy 254 moar!

nekrosoft13
10-28-08, 06:47 PM
you need 255 more, 4800x2 is one CPU

crainger
10-28-08, 06:58 PM
Bearclaw knows that. Bearclaw just doesn't want to go overboard nekro.

Bearclaw
10-28-08, 07:04 PM
Bearclaw knows that. Bearclaw just doesn't want to go overboard nekro.

Thanks Crainger. :)

He is right Nekro. If I got ALL of them, then I might be tempted to pull a Bigman and get some DDR3 with it. Maybe even a skulltrail board with a built in iPod.

npras42
10-28-08, 08:14 PM
No. I went from 98 upgrade to XP upgrade, to Vista upgrade. Vista was the first that required the previous OS installed though. XP just needed a media check.

Intersting. I didn't know that. I had Win98 upgrade but I got XP OEM and Vista Retail seperately.

ViN86
10-28-08, 08:31 PM
ill get Windows 7 if the price is decent (or i can get it dirt cheap through school again).

npras42
10-28-08, 08:37 PM
Crap, I'm not gonna be a student anymore by the time 7 is out. I'll have to start paying full price for MS software!!! :eek:

DRen72
10-28-08, 08:48 PM
Crap, I'm not gonna be a student anymore by the time 7 is out. I'll have to start paying full price for MS software!!! :eek:Yeah, $400.00 bucks! Oh...I'm sorry, $399.99 for consumers. :(

Sazar
10-28-08, 08:53 PM
I am really liking some of these updates :)

I especially like that sidebar will no longer be it's own process :D

And the other little features PLUS (allegedly) lower resource usage is awesome. My next HTPC will thank Microsoft for the lovely new Media Center as well ;)

ViN86
10-28-08, 09:05 PM
looks like second time's the charm with Vista lol

Marvel_us
10-28-08, 10:08 PM
I'll take a 64bit version for free please!:D

Crap, I'm not gonna be a student anymore by the time 7 is out. I'll have to start paying full price for MS software!!! :eek:

That's why you join the right clubs and become an alumni member.;)

Shamrock
10-28-08, 11:01 PM
screenshots here

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=13309

six_storm
10-28-08, 11:21 PM
Meh, nothing special IMO.

ViN86
10-28-08, 11:23 PM
well, it's just vista with a couple updated features. the kernel is still vista-based.

i cant wait for all the vista bashers to say "OMG WIN 7 IS AWESOME!" when in actuality, it's a modified vista. :lol:

Mr Bigman
10-28-08, 11:57 PM
Im gonna play with my crayons.

K007
10-29-08, 12:03 AM
well, it's just vista with a couple updated features. the kernel is still vista-based.

i cant wait for all the vista bashers to say "OMG WIN 7 IS AWESOME!" when in actuality, it's a modified vista. :lol:

If its modified in a way that its improved upon Vista...then yea...i would say OMG WIN 7 is awesome -.-...

Whats ure point here lol

ViN86
10-29-08, 12:50 AM
If its modified in a way that its improved upon Vista...then yea...i would say OMG WIN 7 is awesome -.-...

Whats ure point here lol

lol my point is that ppl that hate vista will end up using it in the end. it's irony :D