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pault123
11-05-08, 08:10 AM
Fallout 3 on Ultra is giving me 20-30fps outdoors. On high it sticks around 60fps very well.

I think it may be finally time to part ways with the 7950gx2.


Cards I would consider

4870 x2
gtx 280
gtx 260
4870
9800gtx
9800gt


I only game on a 19" screen so highest res 1280x1024, but would like to play FL3 on Ultra with full AA and AF. I'm not planning on upgrading screen size anytime in the future.

I want to spend as little as possible and get the best bang for buck but must meet my above requirements.

Do you think the 9800gt would manage all this? or am I asking too much of a sub 100 card? What wouuld your choice be?

CaptNKILL
11-05-08, 08:47 AM
A GTX 260 should be good, but I guess if you've been able to stand using a 7950GX2 for this long you might as well go all the way and get the 4870x2.

The game gets fairly CPU limited in the city areas so you're going to want to overclock a bit if you can.

Toss3
11-05-08, 08:48 AM
I'd say go for the 4850, or maybe even gtx 260(old version if you can find any, this would be a more future-proof upgrade but at the same time more expensive). This is in the wrong section btw.. :p

mailman2
11-05-08, 09:00 AM
GTX 260 all the way. Had a few HD4870s that died. The GTX 260 has more vram than 4850 which helps when you crank up eyecandy.

nekrosoft13
11-05-08, 09:09 AM
best single GPU card that you need. I would get GTX 260, or the version with more pipes.

That will serve you for very long time at that res.

you will also realize how much less headche you will have with single GPU.

pault123
11-05-08, 09:37 AM
Thanks for advice so far guys!

Couldn't find a mixed gfx card forum for ATI and Nvidia. :o

GTX 260 seems a favourite so far, i'm off to look at some prices and benchmarks :D


Keep the thoughts coming

Eliminator
11-05-08, 10:32 AM
gtx 260 would be the best choice at that res

pault123
11-05-08, 11:20 AM
I'm confused as to the new gtx 260's.

Is the 260 reloaded

http://techreport.com/articles.x/15651



the same as maxcore?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=927


and are these the ones to try and get? do they all have max 896 mb memory?

pault123
11-06-08, 05:01 AM
Been comparing the 4870 1gb and the Maxcore 260 gtx 216 core.

200 ish for 260 gtx and 180 ish for 4870.

at 1280 x 1024 the 4870 seems to outperform the gtx 260 everytime?

http://techreport.com/articles.x/15651/5



So unless i'm getting a bigger monitor the 4870 will be best choice?




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Toss3
11-06-08, 07:13 AM
Been comparing the 4870 1gb and the Maxcore 260 gtx 216 core.

200 ish for 260 gtx and 180 ish for 4870.

at 1280 x 1024 the 4870 seems to outperform the gtx 260 everytime?

http://techreport.com/articles.x/15651/5



So unless i'm getting a bigger monitor the 4870 will be best choice?

Yes the 4870 1Gb would be your best choice(even with a bigger monitor).

pault123
11-06-08, 07:20 AM
I've looked even further into this and it seems the 4850 (another 100 saving :) ) (as per your original suggestion toss3 :) ) may cope with all my games at 1280 x 1024 very easily! with more than treble in some cases the performance of my 7950gx2!

The only downside I can see to the 4850 is the heat under load 90 degrees :headexplode:

Tr1cK
11-06-08, 07:33 AM
I get 30-40 outside in F3 @ Ultra High 1680x1050 4xAA.

I flashed my BIOS to speed the fan up. My card never sees 90, it may get up to 70. You don't need to flash BIOS to up the fan speed, I did because it was the easiest thing to do at the time. Also, the cards are designed to run at those temperatures. The downside is that those high temperatures will increase your case ambient temp a touch. I found that leaving the slot beside the 4850 open, or use a slot grille, drops the temps a few degrees as it allows the hot air off the card to exit on the single slot designs.

Toss3
11-06-08, 07:43 AM
I've looked even further into this and it seems the 4850 (another 100 saving :) ) (as per your original suggestion toss3 :) ) may cope with all my games at 1280 x 1024 very easily! with more than treble in some cases the performance of my 7950gx2!

The only downside I can see to the 4850 is the heat under load 90 degrees :headexplode:

Aren't there any cards with a custom cooler?

pault123
11-06-08, 07:49 AM
I get 30-40 outside in F3 @ Ultra High 1680x1050 4xAA.

I flashed my BIOS to speed the fan up. My card never sees 90, it may get up to 70. You don't need to flash BIOS to up the fan speed, I did because it was the easiest thing to do at the time. Also, the cards are designed to run at those temperatures. The downside is that those high temperatures will increase your case ambient temp a touch. I found that leaving the slot beside the 4850 open, or use a slot grille, drops the temps a few degrees as it allows the hot air off the card to exit on the single slot designs.

so at 1280 x 1024 I could expect 60 fps hopefully (nana2)

I suppose if they are designed to run at 90 I have a coolermaster 590 case with a 120mm intake and a 120mm exhaust and a top blow hole 120mm so heat in case shouldn't be a prob :D

Tr1cK
11-06-08, 08:07 AM
You should be OK. I have a Lian Li with 120mm front and back and 80mm blow hole. I think Rivatuner has added support for fan control if you want to bump it up.

glObalist
11-06-08, 08:29 AM
Thanks for advice so far guys!

Couldn't find a mixed gfx card forum for ATI and Nvidia. :o


Yeah, always ask at a gaming section of an nvidia fansite forum first! :captnkill:

If you want a mixed forum, go to guru3d.com

Destroy
11-06-08, 09:11 AM
Get what's in your price range 260/4870 that has the most Vram. FSAA demands mucho Vram the better.

pault123
11-08-08, 11:49 AM
Purchased a 4850 after lots of research for the price 120 nothing seemed to offer this much power.

Got Fallout 3 working on ultra high all settings full AA AF etc and its at 60 fps 99% of the time.

To say i'm impressed with the 4850 is the understatement of the year ! :)

sMull
11-08-08, 12:03 PM
Get either the 4850 or the 4870. Forget about the 9800s, these are old tech and are nothing more than rebagged 8xxx's.

RupertBanana
11-08-08, 12:33 PM
Fallout 3 on Ultra is giving me 20-30fps outdoors. On high it sticks around 60fps very well.

I think it may be finally time to part ways with the 7950gx2.


?

Get a 4850 1 gig HIS with Ice cooler....problem solved.
The 216 cores are about $200 more in OZ....don't know about your neck of the woods.
I play FC2 at 1920x1200 maxed, and FO3 is supposed to be less demanding:afro2:

Xion X2
11-08-08, 12:49 PM
Uh, guys.. he already bought a 4850.

K007
11-08-08, 07:55 PM
Fallout 3 on Ultra is giving me 20-30fps outdoors. On high it sticks around 60fps very well.

I think it may be finally time to part ways with the 7950gx2.


Cards I would consider

4870 x2
gtx 280
gtx 260
4870
9800gtx
9800gt


I only game on a 19" screen so highest res 1280x1024, but would like to play FL3 on Ultra with full AA and AF. I'm not planning on upgrading screen size anytime in the future.

I want to spend as little as possible and get the best bang for buck but must meet my above requirements.

Do you think the 9800gt would manage all this? or am I asking too much of a sub 100 card? What wouuld your choice be?

GTX260 the new models or 4870 1GB. Or if you can go for the GTX280 if its in your budget.

Depending on price, the performance will be overall solid on all 3 cards. I am on 19" CRT, so i play on 1280x960, played Fallout 3 max settings 4xaa/16xaf(cp) and everything on max, and the game ran like a hot knife on butter...:)

The temps on the 4xxx is very high, it seems ati is quiet happy with this, but if you want, there is fancontrol now in the new drivers, so bump that speed from 20-30 or 35, and watch that temp drop by over 50%, the sound will be quieter than even your current gx2 at max settings, and i upgraded from the 7950GX2 as well. I did the full cpu / upgrade and waited for the 4870 / gtx280 fights...and at the time the price on the 4870 was just great value, and it still is excellent value especially the 1GB version.

Xion X2
11-08-08, 07:58 PM
:lol:

It's humorous the amount of guys who don't read past the first post.

K007
11-08-08, 07:59 PM
yes -.-

Did he know about the 4850 doesn't use gddr5...

Xion X2
11-08-08, 08:20 PM
He's only gaming at 1280x, so he may not need it.