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ultraraze
11-07-08, 03:08 PM
I'm in the market for a new PC. I would like to buy and build it soon for financial reasons.

I am currently running (gulp) a P4 Prescott 3.2 OCd to 3.6, 2GB Gskill DDR400, 6800 ultra AGP, 36GB raptor 10K rpm, on a abit IC7 max 3. You can see, it takes me a while to need a new PC so I need it to last.

I know that X58 and Nehalem is coming out soon but I don't think I can afford the newest hardware and I need to do this soon so I dont spend my money on other things that always seem to show up when Im ready to pull the trigger.

I have around $1600.00 hard earned dollars to spend on this new build. There are a lot of games that have come out in the past 2-3 years that I have wanted to purchase and play. I have held off because I felt performance on my current machine would have been low unless I made a huge sacrifice in the visual quality settings. One good thing about waiting is I can now get a lot of these titles at a discounted price point.

So, I would like to spend around $1200 on the PC with Vista and leave around $400 for games and some goodies (gaming mouse, gaming keyboard, case fans)

The PC will be primarily used for gaming, with a little bit of work related tasks here and there, typical office, email and the like. Id like to go 64 bit but, I know some of the software I need for work will not work with it, PLC, HMI, servo amp stuff.

I have a Lian Li PC-65B that I'm modding , and a sound blaster X-Fi elite pro that I would like to use in this build. (Purchased form nVnews BST forums.) I also have a PVR-1600 that I may or may not move into this build.

I will be gaming at 1680x1050, 22" widescreen.

I do not plan on going SLI or crossfire right away but it would be a good upgrade in the future although I guess I could do an X2 type of card when the time comes.

I have been using nVida cards for a long time now and I'd like to give ATI a try this time around.

Below is a system I put together at Newegg at my $1200.00 price point, I came in a little over budget but I'm not too worried about that.

I do plan to OC. Eventually, I'm going to have multiple HDD's and probably a VelociRaptor as well as lighting and case fans.

Can I get some advice, comments, and suggestions?


A few questions:
Will I be able to upgrade OEM 32 bit Vista to 64 bit Vista later?

Is there anything to know about going with an OEM version of vista over a non-OEM version?

Can I squeeze in some better performance for around the same price?

Will I be able to get my highest OC with the RAM below?

Is the MB listed below overkill for me? I want some longevity and the possibility of crossfire but I'll take it for less if possible.

Thank you for looking. Thank you very much for any advise.


Motherboard: ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 $288.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284

Video Card: SAPPHIRE 100243-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB $299.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102795

Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX 620W $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139002

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor $164.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

Heatsink: Tuniq Tower 120 $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154001

RAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
$118.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197

HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218

Optical Drive: SAMSUNG 22X DVDR DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q - OEM $27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151173

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32-bit English 1pk $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116485
Total: $1,274.92

wolfgar
11-07-08, 05:03 PM
VERY similar to the system I built in Q1. (MB + CPU + 4GB)

I very easily OC'd the CPU to 3.6gz, and it still stays very cool with my zalman 9700.
The e8400's run cool to start, so don't overspend on the CPU cooler.

I needed to get a flexible spot fan ($20 at frys) to add additional cooling airflow across the NB as that was getting too hot for my taste. (and space was tight right there)

That Video card does run a bit hot (60C idle?). Make sure you have plenty of case air flow to keep the interior cool. (a few more good case fans)

I have been very happy with the performance, and I am delaying upgrading my 8800GTX until the next gen comes out. I am only GPU limited now, even in the most stressful games.

Video processing is the only thing that stresses this OC'ed CPU. Not enough for me to spend $$ on.

Zhivago
11-07-08, 08:08 PM
If you tend to keep your computers for long periods of time, may I suggest you consider the Q6600? That chip is also a really good OC'er. Also, if you are definitely thinking about going CrossFire, it could be more cost effective to just get the X2 now, although I realize that would put you over budget... do you *really* need a gaming keyboard? :)

ultraraze
11-07-08, 10:31 PM
VERY similar to the system I built in Q1. (MB + CPU + 4GB)
I needed to get a flexible spot fan ($20 at frys) to add additional cooling airflow across the NB as that was getting too hot for my taste. (and space was tight right there)

That Video card does run a bit hot (60C idle?). Make sure you have plenty of case air flow to keep the interior cool. (a few more good case fans)

Thanks for the input wolfgar. I am modding the case with many fans and a controller to hopefully keep things cool. I'm glad to hear your happy with your setup.

If you tend to keep your computers for long periods of time, may I suggest you consider the Q6600? That chip is also a really good OC'er. Also, if you are definitely thinking about going CrossFire, it could be more cost effective to just get the X2 now, although I realize that would put you over budget... do you *really* need a gaming keyboard? :)

:) I guess I don't need a gaming keyboard but I do need something as my current system will move over to the wife. I like to game with the lights off and I'm looking at illuminated keyboards. I would love to go for the 4870X2 now, I'm just not that confident with some of the reviews. As for the Q6600, I have been going back and forth with this for a few weeks now. I may just go for the quad. Thank you for suggestions.

rage10
11-09-08, 05:14 PM
you may want to ge a larger psu. cheak the link mike has on the nvnews homepage for the 750 w thermaltake. and +1 go with the quad.