5ghz+ phenomII say it aint so.

[Redeemed]

So, does this mean that the AM3 mobos will be early too? :D

No, cause the first Phenom IIs will be socket AM2+.

[jcrox]

I'm really looking forward to building a new AMD rig with the Phenom II :captnkill:

[Redeemed]

I'm really looking forward to building a new AMD rig with the Phenom II :captnkill:

Tell me about it...

[Logical]

I can't wait till AMD release Phenom II. Maybe then we will see Intel drop there prices a little. :)

[Redeemed]

I can't wait till AMD release Phenom II. Maybe then we will see Intel drop there prices a little. :)

Maybe. The more I'm reading the more this appears like Phenom II will be for AMD what the HD4800 series has been for ATi.

The Core i7, from what I'm reading, is going to be faster clock for clock than Phenom II... but not by a significant margin. The Core i7 also runs *significantly* hotter than the Phenom II.

I think Phenom II will force Intel to either drop prices significantly on their Core2 processors to sooner clear out inventory. If they drop prices on Core i7, they'll not just be competing with Phenom II but also with themselves as there's still boat loads of Core 2 procs out there.

So my prediction is that the Core2 prices will be dropped, Core i7 will remain priced as is, and the Phenom prices won't budge much (at first) cause they already have the upgrade advantage being AM2+ and DDR2 compatible- a price saving point Intel cannot claim for Core i7.

Either way, I think next year is going to be very heated with competition all around- AMD vs Intel, ATi Vs nVidia. YAY! :D :p

[Shamrock]

Core i7 (2.6ghz) vs Shanghai (Opteron 8384)

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=528

It seems Core i7 is being HINDERED by Hyper threading! With it on, it's only marginally ahead. Phenom II looks promising. If I can save $50+ I don't mind being behind 2-5fps. But I do mind being 20+ fps behind. I am happy with AMD's offerings this time around.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amdshanghai_112208120910/17839.png

I am so interested in this chip, cause I haven't upgraded since 2005! I am looking, gathering info, etc.

[Redeemed]

Core i7 (2.6ghz) vs Shanghai (Opteron 8384)

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=528

It seems Core i7 is being HINDERED by Hyper threading! With it on, it's only marginally ahead. Phenom II looks promising.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amdshanghai_112208120910/17839.png

Keep in mind current Shanghais are only using HT1.0 and DDR2. They should receive a nice boost (theoretically) once they get HT3.0 and DDR3 support next year.

I'm not expecting Shanghai nor Phenom II to slaughter Core i7... instead I'm betting they'll be competitive enough and priced low enough the gain AMD some ground.

[jcrox]

Core i7 (2.6ghz) vs Shanghai (Opteron 8384)

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=528

It seems Core i7 is being HINDERED by Hyper threading! With it on, it's only marginally ahead. Phenom II looks promising. If I can save $50+ I don't mind being behind 2-5fps. But I do mind being 20+ fps behind. I am happy with AMD's offerings this time around.

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amdshanghai_112208120910/17839.png

I am so interested in this chip, cause I haven't upgraded since 2005! I am looking, gathering info, etc.

That's good news :thumbsup:

If they overclock as well as rumor has stated they do I'll be getting one the 1st week they're out :D

[Redeemed]

That's good news :thumbsup:

If they overclock as well as rumor has stated they do I'll be getting one the 1st week they're out :D

Lucky. :( I'm making myself wait till the end of March.

[Feyy]

Great, more garbage from AMD. :headexplode:

Does the troll care to explain himself?

[Redeemed]

Does the troll care to explain himself?

Probably not, as the troll would more than likely deny the fact that if it had not been for the 4800s, we'd all be paying $600+ for a GTX280, and between $400 and $500 for the GTX260, and the GTX260 Core 216 more than likely would have never appeared.

As, after all, that'd be giving credit to a company other than Intel and nVidia. Can't let that happen. :rolleyes:

[Redeemed]

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[Shamrock]

Just for the record, LINPACK is Intel's own CPU stress test.

[Redeemed]

Just for the record, LINPACK is Intel's own CPU stress test.

I'm aware of this. If they can test an AMD proc with LINPACK, is it not fair to test an Intel proc with LAPACK?

[Toss3]

Wow those are some impressive numbers especially if it's an intel-made benchmark! :) This could very well be my next upgrade if it only manages to do well in other benchmarks. Never owned an AMD processor, but I wouldn't mind having an all AMD system next year. :)

[nekrosoft13]

Redeemed, did you post something there? I can't see anything, just bunch of lines.

[defenderz]

Redeemed, did you post something there? I can't see anything, just bunch of lines.

ROTF! Nekro you put a new meaning in the word POLOC. :headexplode:

[Feyy]

ROTF! Nekro you put a new meaning in the word POLOC. :headexplode:

Troll is back

[defenderz]

Troll is back

(lee)

[Redeemed]

Redeemed, did you post something there? I can't see anything, just bunch of lines.

No. :bleh:

[crainger]

No. :bleh:

What were you doing?

[CaptNKILL]

Troll posts were deleted and he must have been responding to them. I just deleted Redeemed's empty posts to finish cleaning up a bit.

Everyone needs to stop responding to these guys when they come back. :lol:

[Redeemed]

Troll posts were deleted and he must have been responding to them. I just deleted Redeemed's empty posts to finish cleaning up a bit.

Everyone needs to stop responding to these guys when they come back. :lol:

Aye, aye! Captn'! (lee)

[Shamrock]

I'll post it here too, in case others aren't following the "info leaked" thread.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=13571

January 2009:

* Phenom II X4 940 at 3GHz, 8MB total cache using the AM2+ socket
* Phenom II X4 920 at 2.8GHz with 8MB of total cache on the AM2+ socket

February 2009:

* Phenom II X4 910 2.6GHz with 8MB total cache on the AM3 socket
* Phenom II X4 810 Phenom II X4 810 2.6GHz with 6MB total cache on the AM3 socket
* Phenom II X4 805 Phenom II X4 805 2.5GHz with 6MB total cache on the AM3 socket
* Phenom II X3 720 Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz with 7.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket
* Phenom II X3 710 Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz with 7.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket

April 2009:

* Phenom II X4 945 3.0GHz with 8MB total cache on the AM3 socket
* Athlon X4 615 2.7GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket
* Athlon X4 605 2.5GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket
* Athlon X3 420 Athlon X3 420 2.8GHz with 1.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket
* Athlon X3 410 Athlon X3 410 2.6GHz with 1.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket

June 2009:

* Athlon X2 240 2.8GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket
* Athlon X2 235 Athlon X2 235 2.7GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket