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Fusion
05-25-03, 01:41 PM
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Hanners
05-25-03, 03:26 PM
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Dazz
05-25-03, 03:31 PM
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Fusion
05-25-03, 03:39 PM
I was just having a laugh, sorry.

After going from a Ti4600 to a Radeon 9700 Pro, All I can say is "Where is the Colour".

I'm going to seriously miss Digital Vibrance.
My Whites were white.
My Blacks were black
Reds were red
green......Blue...... etc..

I had the monitor perfectly calibrated to the GF4 digital vibrance.

I'm not talking about the usual preset
6500
7500
9300 RGB presets, but my own custom one that perfectly complimented my digital vibrance settings.

Now, it's all washed out, and is going to take a lot of time to get used to.

5150 Joker
05-25-03, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Fusion
I was just having a laugh, sorry.

After going from a Ti4600 to a Radeon 9700 Pro, All I can say is "Where is the Colour".

I'm going to seriously miss Digital Vibrance.
My Whites were white.
My Blacks were black
Reds were red
green......Blue...... etc..

I had the monitor perfectly calibrated to the GF4 digital vibrance.

I'm not talking about the usual preset
6500
7500
9300 RGB presets, but my own custom one that perfectly complimented my digital vibrance settings.

Now, it's all washed out, and is going to take a lot of time to get used to.


I thought the same thing when I went from my Ti4600 to the 9700 pro. You just have to re-calibrate your monitor to fit with your 9700 pro and then you'll realize you do not need oversaturation to compensate for poor image quality. :)

Skuzzy
05-25-03, 04:12 PM
Uh,..what does the color "white" look like on you monitor? Black? Black is just the RGB levels being shutdown.

My monitors display perfectly white whites and black blacks with the 9700Pro and 9800Pro.

But,..in all fairness, our monitors are professionaly calibrated.

I am just curious as to what you could have done to whack the "whites' and "blacks".

Fusion
05-25-03, 06:03 PM
Uh,..what does the color "white" look like on you monitor? Black? Black is just the RGB levels being shutdown.

My monitors display perfectly white whites and black blacks with the 9700Pro and 9800Pro.

But,..in all fairness, our monitors are professionaly calibrated.

I am just curious as to what you could have done to whack the "whites' and "blacks".

Well every monitor is different, and many just don't have that "Snow White", look.
Think about how many different possibilities there are in just white. Heck, I can go down to my local car dealer and order 200 different "shades" of white.
The white is now, Ummmm......... Not quite white.

Have look at the attachment
I've just made it up, and with higher values to signal a bigger difference.
Would you be satisfied if *your* white was, say, two from the right ?
Well my GF4 would be the first one on the left, and now the Radeon is about the 3rd from the left.
And no matter what tweaking I do to the monitor now, I just can't get the first one on the left.
I'm left compensating, by upping the values of RGB to almost max, then backing off on Green only.
Max Contract as well now, BTW.

Now Black isn't just black. If you get it wrong you totally screw up soft +hard shadows in games. And this is where a lot of people then compensate with the monitors brightness. This can lead to either washed out textures, or the black having a shade of red in it.

Hope you can understand that. I take my colours seriously, and have chalked up around 250 ish monitor calibrations.

GlowStick
05-26-03, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Uh,..what does the color "white" look like on you monitor? Black? Black is just the RGB levels being shutdown.

My monitors display perfectly white whites and black blacks with the 9700Pro and 9800Pro.

But,..in all fairness, our monitors are professionaly calibrated.

I am just curious as to what you could have done to whack the "whites' and "blacks".

Graphic Design artists will disagree with you COMPLETELY.

Calibrating monitors is really hard to do, takes alot of time, but some companys have cool devices you stick on your monitor and it can try to auto calibrate to your settings if it gets messed up. but the cost $$$$

Matthyahuw
05-26-03, 11:43 PM
if you want to calibrate your monitor for everything (and I mean EVERYTHING), use this flash app, works wonders!

You can chose CRT or LCD...

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/index.shtml

The Baron
05-26-03, 11:57 PM
Just ran that thing... I like it! Messed with the convergance on my monitor, things look a bit better.

GlowStick
05-27-03, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by Matthyahuw
if you want to calibrate your monitor for everything (and I mean EVERYTHING), use this flash app, works wonders!

You can chose CRT or LCD...

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/index.shtml

That test is awesome, my monior was pritty good, i just did a Tad bit of tweaking.

PreservedSwine
05-27-03, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Matthyahuw
if you want to calibrate your monitor for everything (and I mean EVERYTHING), use this flash app, works wonders!

You can chose CRT or LCD...

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/index.shtml

What am I doing wrong? All it does it tell me that I'm running the correct resolution, then it gives no other options???

Fusion
05-27-03, 09:47 AM
if you want to calibrate your monitor for everything (and I mean EVERYTHING), use this flash app, works wonders!

You can chose CRT or LCD...

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/index.shtml

Thats what I use from time to time, It's great and makes quite a difference.
Although I do have a commercial offline program of my own.

I would recommend you try this test at night, and with the lights out, or in a dark room.
Makes all the difference.

Fusion
05-27-03, 09:49 AM
What am I doing wrong? All it does it tell me that I'm running the correct resolution, then it gives no other options???

The options are on the lefthand side.
Start at the top, follow the instructions, click next after each test, etc...
You are running flash ?

PreservedSwine
05-27-03, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Fusion
The options are on the lefthand side.
Start at the top, follow the instructions, click next after each test, etc...
You are running flash ?

Thanks, I was just running PixelSharp, not MoniorToolKit:)

I think my monitor is OK, but I might need a new set of eyes after all that :D

GlowStick
05-27-03, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by PreservedSwine
Thanks, I was just running PixelSharp, not MoniorToolKit:)

I think my monitor is OK, but I might need a new set of eyes after all that :D

LOL yea everything looked all blruyy after that too hehe