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Mr Bigman
11-30-08, 05:30 PM
http://www.megagames.com/news/html/pc/gtaivpcplaguedwithsecurom.shtml

Im really getting tired of hearing this crap about DRM.

We have had DRM thrown in our face since the early part of this decade.

These companies know damn well, it aint working.

Enough already with these stupid copywrite schemes or else i will personally shut these bozos down myself.

Bearclaw
11-30-08, 05:37 PM
I installed City Life yesterday (Got it as a gift about 2 years ago and it was never opened, :lol: ) and I installed it and then I couldn't get it to work because it said the disc wouldn't verify. ****ty DRM. That made me download a keygen to get it to work. I've always bought legally, but if it prevents me from playing, **** them, there losing at there own game.

Mr Bigman
11-30-08, 05:47 PM
Bullseye shaw.

Point made vim.

Bearclaw
11-30-08, 05:51 PM
Unfortunately it goes back to a few people (Or in this case, maybe more :lol: ) ruining it for everyone else. People will always pirate, so the companies will always be wanting to prevent it.

NarcissistZero
11-30-08, 07:22 PM
Unfortunately it goes back to a few people (Or in this case, maybe more :lol: ) ruining it for everyone else. People will always pirate, so the companies will always be wanting to prevent it.

Yep.

I'm all for complaining about overdone DRM protection, but let's also remember it's the thieves which are the root cause of this.

Elvin Presler
11-30-08, 07:34 PM
...and it's the DRM which is the root cause of most of the thieving. Ain't that a bish!

NarcissistZero
11-30-08, 08:29 PM
...and it's the DRM which is the root cause of most of the thieving. Ain't that a bish!

I don't look at "DRM protesters" as anything above a normal pirate/thief. If you want to make a point, you don't buy the game and email the company and tell them why.

evox
11-30-08, 08:31 PM
...and it's the DRM which is the root cause of most of the thieving. Ain't that a bish!
Clearly not. People pirate regardless of DRM. Cheapskates are cheapskates are cheapskates.

ViN86
11-30-08, 08:35 PM
LOL

"Implemented correctly, SecuROM is the most effective form of disc based copy protection and allows us to manage authenticity on a global level for Grand Theft Auto
IV," he added.

1. SecuROM is never implemented correctly and always causes issues for some users.
2. SecuROM has already been cracked by many pirates.

online authentication (aka Steam etc.) is the only viable form of anti-piracy imo. (i know it's been cracked, but it works better than other methods)

evox
11-30-08, 08:49 PM
LOL



1. SecuROM is never implemented correctly and always causes issues for some users.
2. SecuROM has already been cracked by many pirates.

online authentication (aka Steam etc.) is the only viable form of anti-piracy imo. (i know it's been cracked, but it works better than other methods)

SecuROM is epicfail, at this point, the only thing it does is cause annoyance for users. I never had a problem with it, then again, rarely do I bother inserting a disk after installing a game.

JasonPC
11-30-08, 09:18 PM
Why are people still complaining when it claims to allow unlimited installs? Maybe this is a newer and better version of SecuROM? Maybe they got it right this time? I can dream can't I?

Rockstar claims using a cracked exe will have other effects in the game ranging from comical to preventing progress in the game.

Elvin Presler
11-30-08, 11:12 PM
Why are people still complaining when it claims to allow unlimited installs?

What if I want to install it on my laptop while driving my 18 wheeler across country and don't have internet?

What if I want to install and replay it in 2 years, but the company has gone out of business or been sold to EA by then?

What if, like every other "activation" scheme I've ever seen it deactivates on people after 1 or 2 installs, or their servers go down, or are overloaded when I want to install it.

I could go on and on with reasons, but the short of it is, if the game is not completely stand alone, I don't buy it. Period. If I paid for it, I want to use it when I want to use it with no damned leash attached to me.

crainger
11-30-08, 11:42 PM
I wouldn't recommend playing while drive an 18 wheeler.

K007
12-01-08, 02:58 AM
all protections/drm fails. only stress is to the original buyer..

crainger
12-01-08, 04:11 AM
DRM stole my childhood. ::(:

EciDemon
12-01-08, 04:46 AM
Drm is fine, but this "new" idea of restrictive usage is bull I think.
Egosoft got the right idea I think, drm for a while then just patch it away after a few months :)

de><ta
12-01-08, 05:42 AM
DRM stole my childhood. ::(:

Awww, did it "ate your baby?"

Bearclaw
12-01-08, 11:32 AM
de><ta!

:|

Severian126
12-01-08, 12:06 PM
I think I read more on the serious affects of DRM than have actually experienced it. Love the 'net.

ViN86
12-01-08, 02:18 PM
I think I read more on the serious affects of DRM than have actually experienced it. Love the 'net.

well no one complains when DRM works, right? :lol:

JasonPC
12-01-08, 05:32 PM
What if I want to install it on my laptop while driving my 18 wheeler across country and don't have internet?

Get a Sprint USB 3G Internet connection or use WiFi at a hotel or cafe. The Internet is everywhere these days.

What if I want to install and replay it in 2 years, but the company has gone out of business or been sold to EA by then?

Then SecuROM would disable the activation.

What if, like every other "activation" scheme I've ever seen it deactivates on people after 1 or 2 installs, or their servers go down, or are overloaded when I want to install it.

Yeah that's a potential issue but it sounds like because you can install it unlimited times, the only issue would be servers becoming overloaded, which I think only happened once with Bioshock.

I could go on and on with reasons, but the short of it is, if the game is not completely stand alone, I don't buy it. Period. If I paid for it, I want to use it when I want to use it with no damned leash attached to me.

Then you will be buying a lot less PC games that's for certain.

Bearclaw
12-01-08, 06:01 PM
well no one complains when DRM works, right? :lol:

http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1859728&postcount=2

LurkerLito
12-02-08, 09:57 AM
Then SecuROM would disable the activation.

You "assume" the company would have disabled the activation requirements if they go under. All companies can say they will disable their protection if they go under, but they are under no obligation to do so. Just read those EULA, not one of them states they will remove them if the company goes bankrupt or cannot maintain activation servers, all of them have just one thing in common, they have the right to terminate your license for basically any reason they want. So if they go bankrupt, you have no recourse if they don't remove the activation requirements. They can just easily post on their website that because the company went under they are just terminating all licenses and be done with it. Now before people start spouting examples of companies that removed protection before, that is no guarantee. The only guarantee where you could actually believe them is if it is stated clearly in the EULA for the product.

nekrosoft13
12-02-08, 10:09 AM
that is the thing about software, any software(PCgame, console game, OS, app). you never own piece of software, just have permission to use, permission that can be revoked at any time.

NarcissistZero
12-02-08, 11:12 PM
DRM killed my son.

And raped my daughter.

What an ass.