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MUYA
12-18-08, 06:38 AM
Post them here folks;
Hardwarezone (http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2770)
Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-295,2107.html)
Guru3D (http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/)
HardOCP (http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU5OSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==)
Firingsquad (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_gtx_295_early_performance/)
OCC (http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gtx295/)

As far as our benchmarks go, the new NVIDIA flagship, the GeForce GTX 295 looks very promising. Sure, skeptics from the ATI camp will say that these handpicked games may favor NVIDIA cards, and while that's for debate, there's no denying that the differences in performance are still rather drastic. Remember, we are not looking at minor 5% to 10% increases, but quite significant ones, ranging from 20% to over 50%.

CaptNKILL
12-18-08, 07:27 AM
Wow, I didn't expect any previews this early.

Performance looks promising so far, though I'm more interested in compatibility and "smoothness".

Delbert
12-18-08, 07:31 AM
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/

Toss3
12-18-08, 07:48 AM
Post them here folks;
Hardwarezone (http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2770)

Those 4870x2 scores seem a bit off - especially after reading the guru3d preview. :wtf: Going to wait for Hardocp's review.

Bman212121
12-18-08, 08:29 AM
I'll take two please. :D

MUYA
12-18-08, 08:54 AM
Update with new links to OP

Toss3
12-18-08, 09:38 AM
Hardocp strikes again with an excellent review! :thumbsup: Anyone else think that it was a pretty dumb decision of nvidia to go with 448-bit gddr3? These cards should be the best cards for running 2560x1600 type of resolutions and the memory bandwidth of this card is just not up for it.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/images/articles/1229590035scDZaZIrf2_6_2_l.gif

NVIDIA has definitely made this a worthy competitor to the Radeon HD 4870 X2. But in no way is this a “4870 X2 killer.” From our narrow look here today with what is likely to be an immature driver set, the GTX 295 is matching the 4870 X2 in gameplay. Maybe it will best it in a month, but I would not bet on it.

gdphk
12-18-08, 10:08 AM
Hardocp strikes again with an excellent review! :thumbsup: Anyone else think that it was a pretty dumb decision of nvidia to go with 448-bit gddr3? These cards should be the best cards for running 2560x1600 type of resolutions and the memory bandwidth of this card is just not up for it.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/images/articles/1229590035scDZaZIrf2_6_2_l.gif

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/images/articles/1229590035scDZaZIrf2_2_1.gif


Please use the Core i7:afro:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,670858/Test/Benchmark/Geforce_GTX_295_-_Erster_Test_der_Nvidia-Dual-Grafikkarte/?page=9

Toss3
12-18-08, 10:28 AM
Please use the Core i7:afro:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,670858/Test/Benchmark/Geforce_GTX_295_-_Erster_Test_der_Nvidia-Dual-Grafikkarte/?page=9

Find some benchmarks at 2560x1600 and then we'll talk - the gtx 295 is the faster card at 1920x1200 for sure, but at higher resolutions it's going to get bandwidth starved pretty quickly. I think that quad crossfire is still going to be the best solution for those with 30 inch displays. :)

jeong
12-18-08, 11:26 AM
Any micro stuttering issues w/ those 295 like 9800 GX2?

JasonPC
12-18-08, 11:45 AM
Maybe I should trust hardocp but their results seem to vary greatly from all the other benchmarks I've seen.

Toss3
12-18-08, 12:35 PM
Maybe I should trust hardocp but their results seem to vary greatly from all the other benchmarks I've seen.

That's because some settings suit one card better than the other. HardOCP eliminates this by using the highest playable settings of each game on each card. This way you get a much more realistic picture of what kind of a gaming experience you'll get with each card. ;)

breathemetal
12-18-08, 01:14 PM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8285/imageviewphpsv8.jpg

Toss3
12-18-08, 01:16 PM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8285/imageviewphpsv8.jpg

That's sexy.. :drooling:

nekrosoft13
12-18-08, 01:28 PM
I'll pass. Bring on the 40nm cards :D

same, i wonder how heavy that card is, seems like it could break PCI-E slot

LT.Schaffer
12-18-08, 01:29 PM
it looks like a VHS Tape:rofl

i wonder if we can use one Chip for Physx and one for Graphics:confused:

Blacklash
12-18-08, 01:41 PM
Bit-tech.net has put up a preview-

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/12/18/first-look-nvidia-geforce-gtx-295-1792mb/1

This card will be a good option for people on an older Intel platform with a 1920x monitor.

hell_of_doom227
12-18-08, 01:56 PM
I'm suprised Nvidia didn't push Six-SLI setup.

Toss3
12-18-08, 02:04 PM
I'm suprised Nvidia didn't push Six-SLI setup.

Because there isn't any point in it due to the petty bandwidth available.

Paperlaunches FTL btw!

ChrisRay
12-18-08, 03:00 PM
I'm suprised Nvidia didn't push Six-SLI setup.


Its possible. But it'd require another special kind of bridge. And honestly I'm not sure people would be terribly interested. Im also not sure I like the idea. Because on the back of my 295 cards. The encasing isnt enclosed. And they are bigger than your typical card in width ((though length is the same)). It'd be really cramped. In comparison to the GTX280 which seems designed specifically to make 3 way SLI more practical.

http://chrisray.soterial.com/295/card/295dual.jpg

http://chrisray.soterial.com/295/card/GTX295system.jpg

As you can see it'd be kinda cramped to fit in a 3rd one with the current design. And the airflow system is setup to take in air from the top and bottom of the card.

Amaury
12-18-08, 03:49 PM
Bring on the 55nm GTX285 cards for $299.99 - $349.99 with 1.5 gigs.

Amaury
12-18-08, 03:53 PM
was thinking quad sli with 2 of these cards until the 40nm cards come out much later but I don't like the numbers posted so far and the hot air exhausted back into your case :( Bring on the new 55nm GTX285 cards with 1.5 gigs of memory please :)

conantheogar2
12-18-08, 04:27 PM
same, i wonder how heavy that card is, seems like it could break PCI-E slot
How are TEmps?

Any Overheating issues

Toss3
12-18-08, 04:34 PM
Its possible. But it'd require another special kind of bridge. And honestly I'm not sure people would be terribly interested. Im also not sure I like the idea. Because on the back of my 295 cards. The encasing isnt enclosed. And they are bigger than your typical card in width ((though length is the same)). It'd be really cramped. In comparison to the GTX280 which seems designed specifically to make 3 way SLI more practical.

As you can see it'd be kinda cramped to fit in a 3rd one with the current design. And the airflow system is setup to take in air from the top and bottom of the card.

Hmm didn't nvidia say those were just early engineering samples?

The winner today of course is the GeForce GTX 295 and considering we were using an early engineering sample card with a very beta driver, things are looking real good for NVIDIA.


When we asked why we weren’t given free reign with the card, Nvidia said that the drivers we've used for testing the card are not final and the hardware is a very early engineering sample. The clock speeds are final though and the hardware is unlikely to change a great deal at this stage.

So why couldn't they do a full review?

DRen72
12-18-08, 04:37 PM
Waiting to hear more once the final revisions come out in January. Granted, I have enjoyed the ATI 4870X2, but not the ATI drivers. I seriously miss the Nvidia drivers, so this card may bring me back. We will see.