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zoomy942
01-07-09, 10:00 PM
why would i want 64bit?

Bearclaw
01-07-09, 10:10 PM
Because you touch yourself at night.

mailman2
01-07-09, 10:11 PM
Not interested in x64. I bet I know where ;)

crainger
01-07-09, 10:12 PM
why would i want 64bit?

He posted the news for others. You aren't the only one on the forums you know.

Thanks for the heads up. This is what I have been waiting for. :;):

zoomy942
01-07-09, 10:14 PM
Because you touch yourself at night.


i only do that 32 times

zoomy942
01-07-09, 10:15 PM
He posted the news for others. You aren't the only one on the forums you know.

Thanks for the heads up. This is what I have been waiting for. :;):


why not use 32bit?

crainger
01-07-09, 11:50 PM
I'd like to use my 4Gb+ of RAM thanks. When you have a 8800GTX plus 4Gb of RAM, that's more than 32 bit can address.

nekrosoft13
01-08-09, 12:11 AM
also because it is 2009, about time 32bit kicks the bucket

mailman2
01-08-09, 12:21 AM
x64 does nothing performance wise. x86 is faster even if you lose a tiny bit of ram.

crainger
01-08-09, 03:19 AM
Not always. While there are few games that need 64 bit, a few mods, especially FakeFactory for HL2 have shown where 64bit is handy. Besides if no one takes the plunge with 64bit, how will it get better?

Also if you use WMP as your main player, once you go 64bit, you wont go back. The 64bit version is a lot faster when working with a larger library.

Shamrock
01-08-09, 04:19 AM
Well, I "obtained" it, and I gotta say, I like it! I dunno about having it as a main OS, but I know I'll be buying when it's released. Even on an AMD 3500+/3GB ram/6800GT it's faster than my AMD 4800+/4GB ram/GTX260. Even hard drive thrashing.

I just don't like how it handles networking. I can see my XP machine, but can't do anything with it.

Toss3
01-08-09, 06:15 AM
Downloading the x64 version from microsoft now... :bleh:

Toss3
01-08-09, 06:17 AM
Btw. would you guys mind posting your WEI scores? :) And comp specs if they cannot be found in your sig.

nekrosoft13
01-08-09, 06:26 AM
Not always. While there are few games that need 64 bit, a few mods, especially FakeFactory for HL2 have shown where 64bit is handy. Besides if no one takes the plunge with 64bit, how will it get better?

Also if you use WMP as your main player, once you go 64bit, you wont go back. The 64bit version is a lot faster when working with a larger library.

64bit photoshop is also very handy, but you are certainly right about 64bit WMP and fakefactory.

nekrosoft13
01-08-09, 06:28 AM
Well, I "obtained" it, and I gotta say, I like it! I dunno about having it as a main OS, but I know I'll be buying when it's released. Even on an AMD 3500+/3GB ram/6800GT it's faster than my AMD 4800+/4GB ram/GTX260. Even hard drive thrashing.

I just don't like how it handles networking. I can see my XP machine, but can't do anything with it.

networking is a bit wacky, plus they again introduced something new(HomeGroup) that probably will screw with networking again.

Toss3
01-08-09, 06:48 AM
networking is a bit wacky, plus they again introduced something new(HomeGroup) that probably will screw with networking again.

I think the Homegroup feature is one of the best things about Win 7 - i could never get my home computers to share files this easy on Vista and XP.

Anyone know of a faster "microsoft download server" than the one zelda_fan posted - pm me! :bleh:

mailman2
01-08-09, 07:45 AM
I WAS a big fan of moving to x64 but found it to be nothing more than a headache. Performance in CPU intensive apps if x86 coded sucked. There aren't enough native x64 apps to make it worth my while. I also couldn't print to a shared printer attached to an x86 Vista machine. I liked using my extra ram however, but meh.

After using betas of W7 from 6801 up I've realized x64 at this time is still nothing more than a marketing ploy. Sure it sounds good but unless developers start writing x64 versions of everything the WOW emulation just kills the performance of alot of x86 applications. Winrar, QuickPar run extremely slowly in x64 vs x86 and when I've got 10 - 20GB files I'm extracting or repairing it can be extremely time consuming on x64. To date there are no x64 applications for either of those apps. Like you guys mentioned there are a few apps that DO benefit from x64 but those are few and far between and not worth losing the performance that the others lose.

As for the networking in Windows 7 I've had no issues sharing with XP and Vista at all. In fact I found it to be superior to Vista's networking which did have issues sharing with XP machines.

Looks like tomorrow build 7000 is to be released to the public for consumption. I've been running 7000 as my only OS since I've gotten it. I love it. Everything works and I've found the OS to run very, very well. Faster than XP even. I've finally found a worthy replacement to XP. I urge you guys to all try it, you will see that Windows 7 is the superior Windows Operating system. I've been able to run W7 on my laptop with only 1GB of ram. Something Vista wasn't able to do well. Vista was awful on my laptop, but W7 is as snappy as XP has been on my laptop.

six_storm
01-08-09, 07:58 AM
Windows 7 Beta is going to be free on Friday apparently:

http://lifehacker.com/5126076/windows-7-beta-available-as-free-download-on-friday

Looks like I'll be getting my copy on Friday at work, 16MB down FTW. I dunno what PC I'll put it on, but I'll find something to make my guinea pig.

Toss3
01-08-09, 08:04 AM
I WAS a big fan of moving to x64 but found it to be nothing more than a headache. Performance in CPU intensive apps if x86 coded sucked. There aren't enough native x64 apps to make it worth my while. I also couldn't print to a shared printer attached to an x86 Vista machine. I liked using my extra ram however, but meh.

After using betas of W7 from 6801 up I've realized x64 at this time is still nothing more than a marketing ploy. Sure it sounds good but unless developers start writing x64 versions of everything the WOW emulation just kills the performance of alot of x86 applications. Winrar, QuickPar run extremely slowly in x64 vs x86 and when I've got 10 - 20GB files I'm extracting or repairing it can be extremely time consuming on x64. To date there are no x64 applications for either of those apps. Like you guys mentioned there are a few apps that DO benefit from x64 but those are few and far between and not worth losing the performance that the others lose.

There's a 64-bit version of 7-Zip and there is no reason to stick with 32-bit as 64-bit is in most cases as fast or faster. There are already a plethora of applications that support 64-bit, and as more users move on to the 64-bit environment the support for it grows!

As for the networking in Windows 7 I've had no issues sharing with XP and Vista at all. In fact I found it to be superior to Vista's networking which did have issues sharing with XP machines.

Looks like tomorrow build 7000 is to be released to the public for consumption. I've been running 7000 as my only OS since I've gotten it. I love it. Everything works and I've found the OS to run very, very well. Faster than XP even. I've finally found a worthy replacement to XP. I urge you guys to all try it, you will see that Windows 7 is the superior Windows Operating system. I've been able to run W7 on my laptop with only 1GB of ram. Something Vista wasn't able to do well. Vista was awful on my laptop, but W7 is as snappy as XP has been on my laptop.

Agreed!

mailman2
01-08-09, 08:09 AM
There's a 64-bit version of 7-Zip and there is no reason to stick with 32-bit as 64-bit is in most cases as fast or faster. There are already a plethora of applications that support 64-bit, and as more users move on to the 64-bit environment the support for it grows!

Maybe in the future, for now x86 has been working fast for me and I can print ;) As for losing 700MB of memory I dont really care tbh. Whats 700MB or ram worth these days, $6? lol.

Toss3
01-08-09, 08:30 AM
Maybe in the future, for now x86 has been working fast for me and I can print ;) As for losing 700MB of memory I dont really care tbh. Whats 700MB or ram worth these days, $6? lol.

Well quite a few people are running more than 4Gb and even if you don't use the extra ram it's much wiser to use it as a ram disk for web caches etc instead of it being of no use at all. Hell you could even install games on it if you go the 12 GB route. ;)

Sgt_Pitt
01-08-09, 08:49 AM
Woot

Characteristics of Windows 7 Beta1 Build 7000 DVD ISO Image:

File Name: 7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULXFRE_EN_DVD.ISO
Size: 3387009024 bytes (3.15 GB)
MD5: 773fc9cc60338c612af716a2a14f177d
SHA-1: E09FDBC1CB3A92CF6CC872040FDAF65553AB62A5
Platform: x64 (64-bit)
System Requirement: CPU: 2.0 GHz | RAM: 1 GB | HDD: 50 GB
Language: English

six_storm
01-08-09, 09:38 AM
We are downloading the Beta here at work, we are going to try it out on a crappy workstation and a crappy laptop to see how it does. :D

mailman2
01-08-09, 10:35 AM
We are downloading the Beta here at work, we are going to try it out on a crappy workstation and a crappy laptop to see how it does. :D

From MS of course (lee)

six_storm
01-08-09, 10:44 AM
From MS of course (lee)

MSDN.

I'm gonna have to d/l the 32-bit version since my guinea pig laptop only has a Core Duo, not a Core 2 Duo so it's not a 64-bit CPU.