Xbit updates ATI "cheating" article

[Moose]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20030528101933.html


ATI Technologies Explains Optimisations for 3DMark03

"No" to Cheatings, "Yes" to Optimisations
by Anton Shilov
05/28/2003 | 10:21 AM

ATI Technologies explained today the optimisations they implemented in its CATALYST drivers in order to improve performance in 3DMark03 Game 4. An official from the company told us that ATI’s optimisations are really optimisations, but not cheats as we thought before.

In contrast to the rival, ATI Technologies’ drivers do not avoid any workload for the RADEON-based graphics cards. The final image quality is exactly as FutureMark intends, so, this more resembles optimisations, but not simple cheating, when the final image quality is lower than it should be and the graphics processor avoids certain workload. In fact, ATI rendered the 3DMark03 in such a way that allowed the R300 and R350 VPUs to perform 3 pixel shading instructions in parallel. According to ATI, this also works in real games as well when the Developer Relations department works with the developers of such games. In fact, it may be hard or impossible to perform such optimisations via compiler, ATI said, so, they need to work with the developers to achieve such efficiency.

Note that ATI decided to avoid such optimisations for 3DMark03 in future and will remove this one from the next version of CATALYST drivers.

[ClyssaN]

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=131459#post131459

[Moose]

I just thought it neded its own thread since it was a headline here yesterday. :)

[digitalwanderer]

Originally posted by Moose
I just thought it neded its own thread since it was a headline here yesterday. :)

Why not write up a bit of a correction for the frontpage? I'm sure Volt could whip something up real quick.... ;)

[creedamd]

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Why not write up a bit of a correction for the frontpage? I'm sure Volt could whip something up real quick.... ;)

yeah, we all know that's going to happen:rolleyes:

[micron]

I'm sorry, but I just cant stop laughing...........

[micron]

**EDIT**
This post was changed because I dont want that Freakin' Penguin
to get any madder then he already is....

[digitalwanderer]

Originally posted by vampireuk
goofer change your avatar now

EEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!

Mr. Flibble ATE goofer all gone! :eek:

[micron]

I say,....I could swear that I keep seeing post's here, but they seem to be misteriously disapearing?.........Hmmmmm.....

[micron]

Digital, thanks for turning me on to this place....it rocks!

[digitalwanderer]

Originally posted by micron
I say,....I could swear that I keep seeing post's here, but they seem to be misteriously disapearing?.........Hmmmmm.....

Don't worry, that's just Mr.Flibble romp-omp-a-chomping his way thru the boards silently destroying anything he doesn't care for.

(Invisible censorship is one of the VERY worst kinds! :mad: )

[micron]

I agree, I've seen some pretty nutty moderators before but.....

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by micron
I say,....I could swear that I keep seeing post's here, but they seem to be misteriously disapearing?.........Hmmmmm.....

I deleted 1 or 2 posts that were off-topic and offensive to the moderators here.

[micron]

Oh Stealthhawk!!!.....not you!!!!!

[digitalwanderer]

Originally posted by micron
Oh Stealthhawk!!!.....not you!!!!!

It's gonna be me too if ya don't chill just a bit, PLEASE don't make me become a mod here! I do NOT want to have to do it, but if'n the fanATIcs don't start chilling a bit I WILL and I will bloody edit every single bloody one of the bloody instigating/provoking/fanboy type BLOODY posts me own bloody self! :mad:

Sorry, I've been as guilty of it as the next guy occasionally...but it is time to LAY OFF for a little while.

Please, the mods here really do have it rough as hell right now and they don't need us making it worse. It's ok to make points about facts and such, but lets try and cut down on the personalities just a little bit.

The nVidia enthusiasts are pretty on edge right now, and the longer the silence from nVidia continues I expect the worse they'll get.

Lets rise above the petty stuff and remember that we're all geeks here, please?

I plan to try to.

EDITED BITS: Replaced "they'll get worse." with "the worse they'll get." as occasionally me english errors embarress even me too much to let slide. :rolleyes:

[micron]

DW, I think you misinterpreted what I was trying to get across...
When I said "StealthHawk....not you!!!", I said it because I like stealthhawk, I didnt think it was him hacking the post's.
Please dont get all crazy on me now...:mad:

[vampireuk]

So you guys would rather have a ignorant troller on the board who insults the mods and disobeys what they are told to do? The only posts that were removed akaik were goofers.

And you cant complain, the xbit article is up:p

[micron]

Originally posted by vampireuk
So you guys would rather have a ignorant troller on the board who insults the mods and disobeys what they are told to do? The only posts that were removed akaik were goofers.

And you cant complain, the xbit article is up:p
I understand what you are saying. Believe me.

[vampireuk]

Good now lets all get drunk:p

hey I posted that Xbit update now make my bar on the biased meter go down a bit;) I think 3 little bars is now worthy for me:D

[micron]

Wow!....your not so bad!
I guess I just havent been here long enough to see your good side. I showed up right when the railgate thing started....
Probably not the easiest time to be a mod here.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by micron
DW, I think you misinterpreted what I was trying to get across...
When I said "StealthHawk....not you!!!", I said it because I like stealthhawk, I didnt think it was him hacking the post's.
Please dont get all crazy on me now...:mad:

I usually don't outright delete posts unless they are totally off topic and they are also flamebait.

Truth be told, I hadn't even deleted a single post until this NV35 stuff. That was when all the trouble began :mad: Now it seems like they are daily flame wars, and new jackasses who register here just to cause trouble :(

Don't worry, I delete posts very sparingly :D

[goofer456]

Originally posted by vampireuk
So you guys would rather have a ignorant troller on the board who insults the mods and disobeys what they are told to do? The only posts that were removed akaik were goofers.

And you cant complain, the xbit article is up:p

Ok, I hereby officially make my apologies for the offending avatar.

I has been removed.

My personal and direct apologies to Volt and Vampireuk.

And thanks for letting me back in into this great forum!