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bunraku
06-03-03, 03:28 PM
Hi Have some long winded questions'but hope some kind person can answer them.

I currently have a Geforce 3 ti200 128mb.
I usually get all my PC stuff from a local store.

http://webplus.silicon-group.co.uk/acatalog/Silicon_Group_GRAPHICS_CARDS_20.html

I notice that the lowest price geforce fx is the 5200 at 80.
Whereas the 5800 is 310.
Whats the justification to justify a 230 price difference.

How does the 5200 compare against my current Geforce 3 ti200 128mb?

Lastly how does the FX Cards compare against the GF4??

PreservedSwine
06-03-03, 03:35 PM
The non-ultra 5200 is a big step down from what you have.

Although it boasts DX9, it simply lacks the power to run anything as fast as your GF3.....

IMO, by the time any DX9 games arrive, the FX5200 will be so underpowered, it won't even ba an option.....

bkswaney
06-03-03, 03:55 PM
Get the 5800.
It's a wonderful card. It's well worth the extra $.
Or wait for the 5900.

I love my 5800. :D

Dazz
06-03-03, 04:30 PM
My local shop sells a MSI GeforceFX 5800 for 279.

Gator
06-03-03, 04:51 PM
Donot go from a GF3TI to a 5200/5200Ultra you will likely be disappointed. I recommend a 5600 or 5600Ultra they'd be a respectable upgrade for you. And if you want bragging rights, get the 256meg version of the 5600, but honestly not much would take advantage of all that memory buffer so the faster 5600Ultra is better even at 128meg. A GF4 TI4600 would be great too and can often outperform the 5600's in DX8 apps and benchs, but your question was about GFFX's.

Side note: the reason I dont recommend the 5800 is because it's louder and more expensive.

schuey74
06-03-03, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by bkswaney
Get the 5800.
It's a wonderful card. It's well worth the extra $.
Or wait for the 5900.

I love my 5800. :D

I think that the one really important thing that has been completely ignored by everyone is the huge performance gains the FX line received from those 44.03 drivers and that AF is now great. Everyone focused on some stupid 3DM03 issue and forgot that in real games these drivers are the bomb!

Anyways, bkswaney, you said you love the card now. Was upgrading to the 44.03s a night and day difference in AA & AF performance & IQ? From what I saw in the 5900U previews, the 5800U is very close in performance everywhere except at 1600 w/ AF & AA. And since I have a 1280 native LCD......who cares. You can get a vanilla 5800 on ebay for under $300 and the Ultra in the low $300s. For about half the price of the 5900U you can get over 80% of the performance and sometimes the same performance.

I think I am going to wait until the 5900s hit retail to make my decision, but it's something for anyone wanting to go with NVidia to consider. The 5800s now outperform the 9700 in nearly every bench and the prices are starting to get close to the 9700's price level.

Dazz
06-03-03, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by schuey74
I think that the one really important thing that has been completely ignored by everyone is the huge performance gains the FX line received from those 44.03 drivers and that AF is now great. Everyone focused on some stupid 3DM03 issue and forgot that in real games these drivers are the bomb! Yeah thats why i have been intrested in buying a GeforceFX 5800 regular it's only 10 and you get a load of games.

euan
06-03-03, 05:16 PM
I'd get the 9700. it's much better than a 5800, and is cheaper.

If you don't I'll come and bash your door down, I'm not far from you... ;) :angel:

Dazz
06-03-03, 05:56 PM
lol

quik_2_win
06-03-03, 05:56 PM
*You can get a vanilla 5800 on ebay for under $300 *
That sounds like a good deal. I believe it's easy enough to OC the 5800 to very near Ultra speeds, although, if you can still find a 5800Ultra at a reasonable price I would opt for that- the Ultra will OC like crazy (if you're into that kind of thing :cool: )..can we say 550/1100- the fill-rate is unbelieveable at those speeds. Need 'HEFTY' PS for stability though...

Dazz
06-03-03, 05:57 PM
Na i an't getting an Ultra makes too much noise for me :D

schuey74
06-03-03, 06:21 PM
Well, I've got a 450 Watt PS so I'm fine there, and I got a swiftech waterblock w/ peltier waiting for my next card (my ti4600 is back on air) so noise won't be a problem. I just gotta find an Ultra under $300, anymore than that and I'd wait for a 5900 that I could get for under $400.