Seeing things like this Still amazes me...

[Hellbinder]

http://www.elsa.com/products/computergraphics/

And soon Asus, and of course Hercules and Visiontek and the list continues to grow.

I remember when Elsa was one of the Ultimate Nvidia suppliers. Hell their Whole Gladiac line going back for years was based on nothing but Nvidia technology. Now they are all Gladiac 9700's and such...

Wierd... just wierd.. After being in the Dark ages with ATi for so long its almost surreal with the current enviorment of Front and Ceter we are in today.

[saturnotaku]

Pity those cards probably won't be available for sale in the North American market. :|

[Matthyahuw]

I'm so happy you're happy

[creedamd]

I'm so happy that you are happy about his happiness. Good to see you care again!

[goofer456]

Originally posted by Matthyahuw
I'm so happy you're happy

everybody should be happy. The more return from the dark side the better:)

[vampireuk]

pssst over here ATI are the dark side;)

[goofer456]

Than show me the light :D

[digitalwanderer]

Well, I'm happy I got me some Bastard friends in Japan then. :D

[GlowStick]

Are these boards mfg'ed by elsa? Or just Repacked Sapphires?

I confiremd that my 'visiontek' is a repacked sapphire, as many many others.

I belive alot of companys like this are showing up as more of Box Art marketers.

Some big company takes care of manufacutring, while they sell the boards to compansy like VisionTek Herc etc they make up some spiffy box art and sell it.

[StealthHawk]

...and yet ATI cannot make a dent in the market share :p

Hilarious. Really, it is.

[GlowStick]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
...and yet ATI cannot make a dent in the market share :p

Hilarious. Really, it is.

ha good one.

[nVidi0t]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
...and yet ATI cannot make a dent in the market share :p

Hilarious. Really, it is.

I really dont understand that.. lol :D

[saturnotaku]

Originally posted by GlowStick
Some big company takes care of manufacutring, while they sell the boards to compansy like VisionTek Herc etc they make up some spiffy box art and sell it.

Spiffy box art, software and other extras. All these cards are prety much the same, it's a matter of what extras you might want. Hercules is the exception. Had I known their 9800 Pro would become available stateside I would have bought that instead of my Sapphire. :|

[SlyBoots]

Originally posted by GlowStick
Are these boards mfg'ed by elsa? Or just Repacked Sapphires?

I confiremd that my 'visiontek' is a repacked sapphire, as many many others.

I belive alot of companys like this are showing up as more of Box Art marketers.

Some big company takes care of manufacutring, while they sell the boards to compansy like VisionTek Herc etc they make up some spiffy box art and sell it.

"The Neue ELSA GmbH follows in the footsteps of the ELSA AG which opened insolvency proceedings on May 1, 2002. The two companies are separate entities, however. The Neue ELSA GmbH has taken over the rights to the ELSA brand and will provide service and support for all ELSA AG products."

And, IIRC, the old Elsa GF cards were made by Visiontek:eek:

strange world:D

[GlowStick]

Muhaha, there is no choise, they are all the same!

[SurfMonkey]

But ELSA always produced the Quaddro series of cards, whihc they are continuing to do. They don't produce any workstation level ATI cards and, IMO, exercising a just right to manufacture gfx cards regardless of who makes the chips.

All the other AIB's should take notice and do the same thing. It would make the market place a much fairer place to shop in.

[Hellbinder]

...and yet ATI cannot make a dent in the market share

Hilarious. Really, it is.

Aaah.. You just need to let the soup Stew a bit longer grasshopper... ;)

Lest we forget all this big Turn around for ATi only started getting really serious about December a mere 6 months ago. Then it took another giant leap about 3 months ago.

Just wait till the Market Data is in at the end of this Fiscal year.

[GlowStick]

Wow, the new rumors are ATi is just going to make chips, like Nvidia.

[creedamd]

Originally posted by GlowStick
Wow, the new rumors are ATi is just going to make chips, like Nvidia.

rumors have been labled as false.

[GlowStick]

Originally posted by creedamd
rumors have been labled as false.

Thats what they told NexGen "Microsoft is not makeing a game console"

Meanwhile, i do tend to belive its not ture, ATi dosent really take any risk by selling their own branded boards, just the standard risk of maeking to many witch every business faces.

[Compddd]

I love how the mods here lock polls because so many people voted for ATI and not nvidia.

Blind faith in a company isn't a good thing lmao

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by Compddd
I love how the mods here lock polls because so many people voted for ATI and not nvidia.

Blind faith in a company isn't a good thing lmao

To which poll are you referring?

[marqmajere]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
To which poll are you referring?

No kidding. I don't seem to see one around here that's been locked. Maybe he's at the wrong forum. I think he's one of those geeks that sits at his comp all day and does nothing but hate nVidia. Kind of a waste if you ask me. That's like saying, "I love Porche but I hate Ferrari." Please. Both turn heads and raise eyebrows. Both brands of video cards are great as well. *sigh* I'm tired. :(

[Monolyth]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
...and yet ATI cannot make a dent in the market share :p

Hilarious. Really, it is.

...and yet ATI is overrun with chip shipment requests :p

Hilarious. Really, it is.

Originally posted by Hellbinder
Lest we forget all this big Turn around for ATi only started getting really serious about December a mere 6 months ago. Then it took another giant leap about 3 months ago.

Just wait till the Market Data is in at the end of this Fiscal year.

Aye! ATI has REALLY come back from the grave, one of the main reasons I bought a 9800 Pro. Can't wait to see what they slam out next...

Wee!

PS - To StealthHawk: I was just foolin around, tit for a tat, eye for an eye. AYE!

[de_telegraaf]

Originally posted by Monolyth
...and yet ATI is overrun with chip shipment requests :p

Hilarious. Really, it is.



Aye! ATI has REALLY come back from the grave, one of the main reasons I bought a 9800 Pro. Can't wait to see what they slam out next...

Wee!

PS - To StealthHawk: I was just foolin around, tit for a tat, eye for an eye. AYE!

You bought a R350, while your could have bought a NV35:angel2: :angel2: :rant: