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Dreamweavernoob
03-12-09, 04:10 PM
Just wondering the legality of copying games to my hard drive. I have amassed a large collection of games, and some are becoming quite damaged as time goes on.

Am I allowed to copy my games to my hard drive if I have the disc?

thanks

NaitoSan
03-12-09, 04:37 PM
Yes, and you can backup your games on blank discs, as long you don't sell for profit or share it with everyone via torrent.

|MaguS|
03-12-09, 04:39 PM
Just wondering the legality of copying games to my hard drive. I have amassed a large collection of games, and some are becoming quite damaged as time goes on.

Am I allowed to copy my games to my hard drive if I have the disc?

thanks

Honestly? No, You are not allowed according to the EULA because to play the games you would then have to modify them to by pass the games copy protection and disc checking process.

Now if you could copy then 100% perfectly where the game does not need to be modified nor is the disc check interupted then as long as you continue to own and keep the game in possession you are not violating the EULA.

tornadog
03-12-09, 04:52 PM
In the ideal world, what you are asking is perfectly legal. But thanks to Piracy, Most ToC and EULA these days specifically forbid you from modifying the exe, making copies, reselling and so much as installing on more than 1 pc.

Blade
03-12-09, 04:53 PM
Copy those mofo's!

NarcissistZero
03-12-09, 05:51 PM
As said, it goes against the EULA a lot of times, though it must be said that EULAs are not the law, in reality, and can be challenged if you are ever brought up on charges.

I follow a common sense moral line of my own in these situations... if I paid for something, I feel I have a right to use my software. If 10 years from now the activation servers for Mass Effect are down and there is no "legal" way to play the game, you can be your ass I will download a cracked copy to play. I paid my $50... I want my game.

Toss3
03-12-09, 06:09 PM
Depends on the country you live in - in Finland this would be perfectly legal(We even have the right to copy rented material if it's for personal use).

proliferazor
03-12-09, 06:26 PM
**** anyone who says you can't, because you can and you should.

XDanger
03-12-09, 06:29 PM
Depends on the country you live in - in Finland this would be perfectly legal(We even have the right to copy rented material if it's for personal use).

I guess Finland doesn't make any decent media so the gov. dont give a ****???

Dreamweavernoob
03-12-09, 07:03 PM
I thought 1Tb was enough for all my games, but i've used alot already :O

http://i44.tinypic.com/14il5pc.jpg


And my steam account is getting bigger, and this with all games not even installed :O (new hard drive).

http://i40.tinypic.com/nl1vr6.jpg

methimpikehoses
03-12-09, 07:10 PM
**** anyone who says you can't, because you can and you should.

You should go to P&R... Cybrsage would fly off the handle.

|MaguS|
03-12-09, 07:27 PM
I thought 1Tb was enough for all my games, but i've used alot already :O




And my steam account is getting bigger, and this with all games not even installed :O (new hard drive).



Yeah Im sure those are "legally" copied. :rolleyes:

Toss3
03-12-09, 08:13 PM
I guess Finland doesn't make any decent media so the gov. dont give a ****???

No it allows people to use and copy their bought or rented material as they please, as it should be. Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean that everyone goes out and abuse their rights, quite the opposite in fact.

As NarcissistZero already put it "EULAs are not the law" so the only thing you're breaking by copying your game is the agreement you have with the company that made the product, not the law.

It's morally wrong, but when dealing with large corporations morals should never come into play(ask yourself this: do you think a company would care about you and your family when you are let go because you aren't making them enough money? If no, then why would you treat them any differently?)

saturnotaku
03-12-09, 08:53 PM
It's morally wrong, but when dealing with large corporations morals should never come into play(ask yourself this: do you think a company would care about you and your family when you are let go because you aren't making them enough money? If no, then why would you treat them any differently?)

What do you do for a living? Do you even have a job, or are you living high off the government cheese that you Scandinavians love so much?

sammy sung
03-12-09, 09:31 PM
What do you do for a living? Do you even have a job, or are you living high off the government cheese that you Scandinavians love so much?

Please generalize more,atleast get your facts straight before you do broad statements like that :retard:

"Scandinavia" is not a country,we do not share goverments or laws,we are completly separate nations.Not much is as it used to be here in sweden,we are no longer a socialist nation.Health care is no longer completly free,dental care can cost a lot of money.Nowadays we even have homeless people living in the streets like your great nation does :p (thats progress for ya) The cheese isn't there anymore,this isn't the 70's.

NarcissistZero
03-12-09, 09:48 PM
The original Insomnia was a great movie though.

XDanger
03-12-09, 10:10 PM
It's morally wrong, but when dealing with large corporations morals should never come into play(ask yourself this: do you think a company would care about you and your family when you are let go because you aren't making them enough money? If no, then why would you treat them any differently?)
What if my family work for those large corporations that has to lay them off to cut costs due to Scandinavians lack of moral compass denting their profit margin??? Thats a rubbish argument.

Stop freeloading off the rest of the dvd buying nations you scumbags:p

sammy sung
03-12-09, 10:36 PM
What if my family work for those large corporations that has to lay them off to cut costs due to Scandinavians lack of moral compass denting their profit margin??? Thats a rubbish argument.

Stop freeloading off the rest of the dvd buying nations you scumbags:p

Bull****,as if Brits have higher moral standards than the average scandinavian :rolleyes:

You guys just had ****tier connections before :p

EciDemon
03-13-09, 04:17 AM
Should you follow the EULA it's amazing you're even allowed to play the game >_>
If you own the game make your backup for personal use. They won't smite down on you as long as you don't go selling copies.

Toss3
03-13-09, 06:34 AM
What do you do for a living? Do you even have a job, or are you living high off the government cheese that you Scandinavians love so much?

Of course I do - you'd never make it on the government "cheese" alone(which currently is about 400€/month and that doesn't even cover rent). I'm currently a student, so I don't make as much as you, but I'd still never steal or copy anything - this is just the laws we have over here. I know I might have come off as a pro-pirate(which I definitely am not), but I don't think that copying your own paid-for material is wrong as long as it's for personal use.

Finland also isn't a part of scandinavia - Scandinavia is the term used for the region which consists of Sweden, Norway and Denmark.


What if my family work for those large corporations that has to lay them off to cut costs due to Scandinavians lack of moral compass denting their profit margin??? Thats a rubbish argument.

Stop freeloading off the rest of the dvd buying nations you scumbags

Ehrm, I'm sorry but just because we can copy rented stuff doesn't take any money away from the large corporations - it's the rentals that take the biggest blow(but you already rented it once in order for you to copy it, so they get their money as long as you don't make a copy for your friends and how often do you rent a movie twice?).

Do you really think that the joe-average worker gets paid any differently just because one movie/game sells well? :rolleyes:

XDanger
03-13-09, 03:35 PM
http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2009/03/04/lat:-sony-pictures-lay-300%3B-4%25-workforce

I bet that 15% is the Scandinavians ;)

Seriously though its a good distribution/sales model, I dont buy DVD's because they're overpriced, If I could rent them and copy them legally I'd probably spend more on them..

Dreamweavernoob
03-13-09, 05:19 PM
Okay lets through a spanner in the works.

Would you consider it wrong of me (morally of course ;) ) to crack steams protection. I've been caught before with no connection and being unable to play games.

Sure I can go offline, but that requires internet to do that, and sometimes I dont have forewarning.

I have purchased ALL the games in my steam account.

nekrosoft13
03-13-09, 05:28 PM
Yeah Im sure those are "legally" copied. :rolleyes:

can't you tell, folder is called GameISO!!

Dreamweavernoob
03-13-09, 08:09 PM
can't you tell, folder is called GameISO!!

Sure, I create ISO's of my games, makes it more convienent :)



Btw, has anyone managed to get Hidden and Dangerous working in Vista X64? Its working fine, but I have no sound :(


thanks