Ti4600 to 9700

[Impact]

How much of a difference would I see going from a Ti4600 to a 9700. Im starting to get alot of artifacts playing BF1942 so I think my card might be getting ready to die. Any input?

[Monolyth]

Though everyone wants to say "The 2D difference is not large anymore." I beg to differ, I have not seen the 2D on the FX but I went from Ti4400 to 9800 Pro and the 2D was very crisp and clear, text was more defined.

And playing 8xAniso and 4xFSAA is very nice. Never knew what I was missing. It's a pretty big difference, but why a 9700 Pro? I know you can find some for 100 bux less than 9800 Pro, but if your making the move, save a little more and get the 9800 Pro and get the nice AA & Aniso increase.

Hope that helps.

Peace!

[goofer456]

Originally posted by Monolyth
Though everyone wants to say "The 2D difference is not large anymore." I beg to differ, I have not seen the 2D on the FX but I went from Ti4400 to 9800 Pro and the 2D was very crisp and clear, text was more defined.

And playing 8xAniso and 4xFSAA is very nice. Never knew what I was missing. It's a pretty big difference, but why a 9700 Pro? I know you can find some for 100 bux less than 9800 Pro, but if your making the move, save a little more and get the 9800 Pro and get the nice AA & Aniso increase.

Hope that helps.

Peace!

Though I agree with you that the R9800 Pro is the card at the moment I am of the opinion that the R9700 holds the best raw performance for a reasonable price. The performance differnce is to small to justify the price difference. Again IMHO.

[john19055]

You will see a big improvement in IQ on the R9700pro, and most overclock good,but the R9800PRO is hard to beat at the moment,and it overclocks good too,I have had mine up to 450/760 and with a better heat sink on it I think it would go farther at least on yhe core.

[pgn.inertia]

Originally posted by Impact
How much of a difference would I see going from a Ti4600 to a 9700. Im starting to get alot of artifacts playing BF1942 so I think my card might be getting ready to die. Any input?

How come it is dying already, have you overclocked it heavily or something?

[chubbysox]

Man the next card i get has to be a radeon!! I have had 4 different geforce cards all at stock clock just die after about 1-1/2 years of use and the temps in my case are always around 22-26 C so im just sick of nvidia cards. My one year old ti4400 is starting to crap out also so goodbye nvidia forever this is just the last straw.

[pgn.inertia]

Have had NVIDIA cards for years...

RivaTNT2 ULTRA
GeForce2 ULTRA
GeForce4 Ti4600

All overclocked by about 10 %, case temp 30 degrees Centigrade.

Still have them all, and they still work (although the fan on Riva is dead) but I've never had any problems with them...

[digitalwanderer]

I went from a GF4 ti4400 (300/702) to a 9700 Pro engineering sample (330/330) and it's a definate major upgrade for me. :)

At the time I was playing GTA:VC on the GF4 at 2xAA 4xAF smooth or 4xAA 4xAF a little jerky but prettier, with the 9700 I just play at 4xAA 16xAF and it's smooth as butter for me and twice as pretty. :D

Me's LOVING me 9700 Pro!!!!
(Thanks again Terry!!!! ;) )

[Sazar]

lol... cheap little pimp here... but I am selling my 9700pro... getting an AIW 9700pro instead...

drop me a line if interested :D

[john19055]

I can't complain about the quailty of nvidia cards, as far as not going out, they been good to me,my first setup was the Viper 550 (TNT) with a SLI Voodoo 2 setup, and then a Geforce 3 clocked at 240/500 all the time,still running in my second system and then my TI4600 clocked at 320/700,not the best overclock but still a great card,that now runs in my kids system.

[chubbysox]

Yea well with any electonic part it is just pure luck if the item it going to crap out or last forever. I just got unlucky 3 times in a row and I just need a change. I also always get the unlucky xp processers that can't overclock well without insane volts so I guess I'm just cursed :D . WHAT DID I DO TO OFFEND YOU ALL MIGHTY COMPUTER GOD!!!! PLEASE SPARE ME ON MY NEXT PURCHASE!!

[B&R]

Originally posted by Impact
How much of a difference would I see going from a Ti4600 to a 9700. Im starting to get alot of artifacts playing BF1942 so I think my card might be getting ready to die. Any input?

ALOT of improvement esp when AA and AF are turned on.

[Geforce4ti4200]

Originally posted by chubbysox
Yea well with any electonic part it is just pure luck if the item it going to crap out or last forever. I just got unlucky 3 times in a row and I just need a change. I also always get the unlucky xp processers that can't overclock well without insane volts so I guess I'm just cursed :D . WHAT DID I DO TO OFFEND YOU ALL MIGHTY COMPUTER GOD!!!! PLEASE SPARE ME ON MY NEXT PURCHASE!!


what do you mean by bad overclock? and running video cards overclocked for months will kill them. I leave mine stock, only overclock to benchmark.......as for a ti4400 at 300/700 thats an insane overclock and not much slower than a radeon 9700 pro without fsaa

[digitalwanderer]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
as for a ti4400 at 300/700 thats an insane overclock and not much slower than a radeon 9700 pro without fsaa
I know, ain't it great! And for $100us no less and all I did was take off the heatsink, plane it, & re-attach it and get the fan on it's own power-supply. (Which is what let me clock the memory so high, it had tons of artifacts before that. ;) )

It is a scooby-quick little card, up until you start adding AA & AF and then it just gets toasted by the 9700 Pro. :D

[Geforce4ti4200]

heh then dont use fsaa, it just blurs the jaggies. I run all games without af and fsaa, just use a high res :D

[PreservedSwine]

Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
heh then dont use fsaa, it just blurs the jaggies. I run all games without af and fsaa, just use a high res :D

Since when does high resolution use filtering? BIG difference w/out AF, no matter what resolution you're running. And FSAA, done correclty, doesn't blur....

[Dazz]

The only FSAA setting i find that blurs is the 3x.

[Ryuuko]

I am installing a 9800 Pro with my 2.66...I retired my 4600 and so far the 2D applications are :angel: ...in a few hours I will find out how 3D applications run.

http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10

[Impact]

I think I might just wait off a few more months and see what happens. Looks like Nvidia dropped the ball again.

[MRX]

I too have a TI-4400, and I'm glad ATI's superior 2D is being noticed. I am looking to upgrade in a while, the 9700 Pro seems to be disappearing, leaving the 9800/9600 PRO cards.

The video playback on ATI has always been better and has been enhanced in the latest generation of cards.

They should have enabled all 8 pipelines in the 9600 PRO, now that would have really cooked. The 9500 PRO seems to be a great mid range card and beat the INVIDIA's offering.

If anyone is looking for an inexpensive transitional board I am running the MSI SIS 655 board with 1GB of dual channel PC 2700. Very stable and increased the performance of my existing 2.26 soon to be 3.06HT CPU. Its worth a look if you want to upgrade performance with your existing 533 FSB parts.

Cheers...

[Sazar]

Originally posted by MRX
I too have a TI-4400, and I'm glad ATI's superior 2D is being noticed. I am looking to upgrade in a while, the 9700 Pro seems to be disappearing, leaving the 9800/9600 PRO cards.

The video playback on ATI has always been better and has been enhanced in the latest generation of cards.

They should have enabled all 8 pipelines in the 9600 PRO, now that would have really cooked. The 9500 PRO seems to be a great mid range card and beat the INVIDIA's offering.

If anyone is looking for an inexpensive transitional board I am running the MSI SIS 655 board with 1GB of dual channel PC 2700. Very stable and increased the performance of my existing 2.26 soon to be 3.06HT CPU. Its worth a look if you want to upgrade performance with your existing 533 FSB parts.

Cheers...

coupla things... 2d IQ is quite similar between most of the cards... there is not THAT huge a difference... though matrox is still far and away the leader... nvidia 2d iq is not bad @ all...

considering the 9600pro.. it was DESIGNED with 4 pipelines... thats why it is so cheap to produce and has a relatively low transistor count :)

9500pro continues to be a great card :) but the 9600pro is by no means a slouch :)