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caldas
04-07-09, 02:46 PM
Hello all!
Already installed the new beta drivers but the world of warcraft canīt use hardware sound of xonar yet :(
look the log of wow:

3/27 08:35:42.874 => Version 3.0.9 (9551) Feb 3 2009
3/27 08:35:42.874
3/27 08:35:42.882 => Setting up Game Sound:
3/27 08:35:42.882 - SESound Engine Init
3/27 08:35:42.882 - FMOD Memory Init
3/27 08:35:42.882 - FMOD System Create
3/27 08:35:42.926 - FMOD version 00040907 detected
3/27 08:35:42.926 - Hardware is ENABLED
3/27 08:35:42.929 - Reverb is ENABLED
3/27 08:35:42.957 - 4 Output drivers detected
3/27 08:35:42.957 --- [0] System Default
3/27 08:35:43.011 --- [1] Speakers (ASUS Xonar D2X Audio Device)
3/27 08:35:43.066 --- [2] Digital Output (ASUS Xonar D2X Audio Device)
3/27 08:35:43.119 --- [3] Speakers (ASUS Xonar D2X Converter)
3/27 08:35:43.335 - Using [1] Speakers (ASUS Xonar D2X Audio Device) for Game Output
3/27 08:35:43.335 - 64 Channels Requested.
3/27 08:35:43.335 - Querying Sound Driver for Available Hardware Channels.
3/27 08:35:43.378 - Sound Driver Reports: 0 Hardware Channels Available.
3/27 08:35:43.378 -################################################## #########################################
3/27 08:35:43.380 -# NOTICE: Insufficient Available Hardware Channels.
3/27 08:35:43.380 -# World of Warcraft Requires At Least 12 Hardware Channels to Function Properly in Hardware Mode.
3/27 08:35:43.380 -# Enabling Software Channels.
3/27 08:35:43.380 -################################################## #########################################
3/27 08:35:43.380 - Using 64 channels.
3/27 08:35:43.440 - DSPBufferSize = AUTO DETECT
3/27 08:35:43.440 - Detected Control Panel Speaker Mode = 5.1
3/27 08:35:43.440 - Setting WoW Speaker Mode to 5.1
3/27 08:35:43.474 - FMOD System Init OK!
3/27 08:35:43.474 => Game Sound is ready.



I turned on and off the DS3D GX without diference :(

In software mode I have no problems. look the log file:

3/27 19:45:50.152 => Version 3.0.9 (9551) Feb 3 2009
3/27 19:45:50.152
3/27 19:45:50.152 => Setting up Game Sound:
3/27 19:45:50.152 - SESound Engine Init
3/27 19:45:50.152 - FMOD Memory Init
3/27 19:45:50.152 - FMOD System Create
3/27 19:45:50.200 - FMOD version 00040907 detected
3/27 19:45:50.200 - Hardware is DISABLED
3/27 19:45:50.200 - Reverb is ENABLED
3/27 19:45:50.228 - 4 Output drivers detected
3/27 19:45:50.229 --- [0] System Default
3/27 19:45:50.283 --- [1] Speakers (ASUS Xonar D2X Audio Device)
3/27 19:45:50.334 --- [2] Digital Output (ASUS Xonar D2X Audio Device)
3/27 19:45:50.387 --- [3] Speakers (ASUS Xonar D2X Converter)
3/27 19:45:50.606 - Using [1] Speakers (ASUS Xonar D2X Audio Device) for Game Output
3/27 19:45:50.606 - Using 64 channels.
3/27 19:45:50.663 - DSPBufferSize = AUTO DETECT
3/27 19:45:50.665 - Detected Control Panel Speaker Mode = 5.1
3/27 19:45:50.665 - Setting WoW Speaker Mode to 5.1
3/27 19:45:50.698 - FMOD System Init OK!
3/27 19:45:50.698 => Game Sound is ready.

Any help ?

nekrosoft13
04-07-09, 03:08 PM
not 100% but the c-media chip on Xonar doesn't support hardware sound acceleration. It can emulate EAX 3-4-5, but it all done in software.

caldas
04-07-09, 03:14 PM
But this chip support OpenAL 1.1 and ASIO 2.0, evidence that it has hardware sound acceleration, right?
: /

Yaboze
04-08-09, 11:05 AM
You won't get hardware audio in Vista unless you use ALchemy.

If you are using XP, it should work, but WoW doesn't use OpenAL, it uses FMOD software and EAX if it finds it. EAX in XP is hardware for Creative cards.

caldas
04-09-09, 07:10 AM
You won't get hardware audio in Vista unless you use ALchemy.

If you are using XP, it should work, but WoW doesn't use OpenAL, it uses FMOD software and EAX if it finds it. EAX in XP is hardware for Creative cards.


But the Asus Xonar have DS3D GX, this should be a translator to EAX.

jass
04-09-09, 11:04 AM
But the Asus Xonar have DS3D GX, this should be a translator to EAX.

DS3D GX is a fake eax. Asus were to cheap to licence eax hd from creative like auzentech did. They tried to reverse engineer it but they failed. That is just another proof they did.

Medion
04-09-09, 01:04 PM
You won't get hardware audio in Vista unless you use ALchemy.

If you are using XP, it should work, but WoW doesn't use OpenAL, it uses FMOD software and EAX if it finds it. EAX in XP is hardware for Creative cards.

They dropped the EAX support when they redid the sound engine last year. There was a huge uproar from the X-Fi crowd when it happened.

caldas
06-17-09, 09:59 PM
Hello everybody! I would like to say that the last update ( see below) made the world of warcraft using hardware sound finally!

Version 1.0
Description Patch file for Xonar serial audio cards
1. Fix the game "Command&Conquer:The First Decade" won''t start with comitability mode.
2. Fix the game " World of Warcraft" may hang sometimes.
3. Please install the latest driver first and then install this patch file.



File Size 345.62 (KBytes) 2009/06/16 update


Look the wow logs sound:

6/17 22:46:43.742 => Version 3.1.3 (9947) May 26 2009
6/17 22:46:43.753
6/17 22:46:43.753 => Setting up Game Sound:
6/17 22:46:43.753 - SESound Engine Init
6/17 22:46:43.753 - FMOD Memory Init
6/17 22:46:43.759 - FMOD System Create
6/17 22:46:44.105 - FMOD version 00040907 detected
6/17 22:46:44.105 - Hardware is ENABLED
6/17 22:46:44.120 - Reverb is ENABLED
6/17 22:46:44.138 - 4 Output drivers detected
6/17 22:46:44.138 --- [0] System Default
6/17 22:46:44.166 --- [1] Speakers (ASUS Xonar D2X Audio Device)
6/17 22:46:44.198 --- [2] Digital Output (ASUS Xonar D2X Audio Device)
6/17 22:46:44.229 --- [3] Speakers (ASUS Xonar D2X Converter)
6/17 22:46:44.289 - Using [0] System Default for Game Output
6/17 22:46:44.290 - 64 Channels Requested.
6/17 22:46:44.290 - Querying Sound Driver for Available Hardware Channels.
6/17 22:46:44.327 - Sound Driver Reports: 128 Hardware Channels Available.
6/17 22:46:44.327 - Using 64 channels.
6/17 22:46:44.369 - DSPBufferSize = AUTO DETECT
6/17 22:46:44.369 - Detected Control Panel Speaker Mode = STEREO
6/17 22:46:44.369 - Setting WoW Speaker Mode to STEREO
6/17 22:46:44.388 - FMOD System Init OK!
6/17 22:46:44.388 => Game Sound is ready.


ps: wow running at compatibility mode ( WinXP )

LordJuanlo
06-18-09, 03:32 AM
This is a WoW update or a Xonar driver update?

weevil
06-18-09, 05:14 AM
Thanks caldas!

http://drivers.softpedia.com/progDownload/Asus-Xonar-Sound-Cards-Patch-10-Download-80259.html

caldas
06-18-09, 07:08 AM
This is a WoW update or a Xonar driver update?

Xonar ! ( Asus update)

akgfan01
06-18-09, 11:34 AM
not 100% but the c-media chip on Xonar doesn't support hardware sound acceleration. It can emulate EAX 3-4-5, but it all done in software.

So what?
1. No new game use EAX any more
2. Alchemy is also a software translator for EAX to OpenAL
3. GX2.5 is providing EAX without a dent to your performance
4. GX2.5 is way easier to use than Alchemy, no need for additional utility or support list, simply press the GX button and global support for all games...


Creative has many things that didn't work out or work well..
Ex.
RAM on soundcard --> dead technology
CMSS3D --> not as good as Dolby Headphone
EAX --> dying technology


They used to be a really good audio solution provider, just now Asus is doing better for true user benefits in PC audio area.

jeffmd
06-18-09, 11:45 AM
you keep thinking that. ^^

nekrosoft13
06-18-09, 12:55 PM
So what?
1. No new game use EAX any more


America's Army 3 released 1 day ago, is that new enough?

caldas
06-18-09, 01:42 PM
America's Army 3 released 1 day ago, is that new enough?

Maybe the America's Army still uses the same engine sound of the first version of the game, if true the America's Army 3 will have support for EAX. :o

Many games have updates but not always reach the engine sound :cool: