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So I did some more playing around last night. I noticed I can now run Crysis with 8X AA with little affect on frame rates. So that is a huge improvement. Also, I tried CoD4 with 4X AA in game + and 16X with control panel and I still get 70FPS or more. So I wonder, is there something wrong?
newparad1gm
05-08-09, 12:24 PM
Here ya go! LOL! how bout them awesome cable management skills?! :afro2:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h246/musman_2006/PC005.jpg
Cable management is better than mine at least. I was using a Rosewill 630W with my E8200 and GTX 280, and I think I had plenty of headroom there. I think as long as you don't do any overclocking or run ridiculous amounts of peripherals from your system, that PSU should serve you fine.
DeusGear
05-08-09, 12:37 PM
You could get one of these as a cooler:
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/scythe-ninja-mini-rev-b-cpu-cooler-scmnj-1100.html
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/scythe-shuriken-rev-b-universal-cpu-cooler-scsk-1100.html
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/nexus-low-7000-silent-low-profile-cpu-cooler.html
I just ordered a Antec Nine Hundred case. I can then put my old PC back into my existing case and sell it. Hope I don't get into too much trouble :)
CaptNKILL
05-08-09, 12:53 PM
Cable management is better than mine at least. I was using a Rosewill 630W with my E8200 and GTX 280, and I think I had plenty of headroom there. I think as long as you don't do any overclocking or run ridiculous amounts of peripherals from your system, that PSU should serve you fine.
It isn't the wattage that matters. Its the 12v rails and the overall quality of the unit.
The 500W Antec PSU I had 4 years ago had similar 12v rails (18a and 17a I think) and I was using a much weaker CPU at the time (athlon x2). I can't remember if it was the 7900GTX, 7950GX2 or the 8800GTX that did it (I had them all in a span of 8 months :retard: ), but my PSU started whistling and I had to RMA it. I'd never lost a good PSU before that, so I figured it was just overloaded.
Just to be safe, I bought my OCZ GameXStream700W (4 12v rails at 18a each) and used the replacement Antec 500W in another (weaker) system where its been running fine 2 1/2 years with no whistling.
Since then I've been a bit more careful about how much I load onto a PSU, especially if it isn't a good name brand.
If you want to get a new unit musman, there are a lot of options it just depends how much you have to spend. Corsair's PSUs are among the best you can buy, but you're looking at $100 for one that'd be good for your setup.
This OCZ StealthXStream 600W should be good for you though and its cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010
You could get one of these as a cooler:
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/scythe-ninja-mini-rev-b-cpu-cooler-scmnj-1100.html
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/scythe-shuriken-rev-b-universal-cpu-cooler-scsk-1100.html
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/nexus-low-7000-silent-low-profile-cpu-cooler.html
Thank you for the suggestions! I just ordered a nice case so I should be fine with heat. If and when I want to overclock I will need a better cooler. I will keep them in mind.
It isn't the wattage that matters. Its the 12v rails and the overall quality of the unit.
The 500W Antec PSU I had 4 years ago had similar 12v rails (18a and 17a I think) and I was using a much weaker CPU at the time (athlon x2). I can't remember if it was the 7900GTX, 7950GX2 or the 8800GTX that did it (I had them all in a span of 8 months :retard: ), but my PSU started whistling and I had to RMA it. I'd never lost a good PSU before that, so I figured it was just overloaded.
Just to be safe, I bought my OCZ GameXStream700W (4 12v rails at 18a each) and used the replacement Antec 500W in another (weaker) system where its been running fine 2 1/2 years with no whistling.
Since then I've been a bit more careful about how much I load onto a PSU, especially if it isn't a good name brand.
If you want to get a new unit musman, there are a lot of options it just depends how much you have to spend. Corsair's PSUs are among the best you can buy, but you're looking at $100 for one that'd be good for your setup.
This OCZ StealthXStream 600W should be good for you though and its cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010
Is Rosewill a cheap PSU manufacture?
What do you think about this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341003
I figure I should go way bigger than I need right now for future reason. One day I may want to add another GTX-285 and overclock my CPU.
CaptNKILL
05-08-09, 02:07 PM
Is Rosewill a cheap PSU manufacture?
What do you think about this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341003
I figure I should go way bigger than I need right now for future reason. One day I may want to add another GTX-285 and overclock my CPU.
Rosewill is ok for budget systems but I wouldn't trust them with a powerful system like yours.
I'm not sure exactly what you'd need for GTX 285 SLI but this unit is awesome:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009
The customer reviews show a lot of people running GTX 285 SLI on that thing.
Yea, that's a nice one for sure. I would think is would be good for GTX-285 SLI. I need to buy my girlfriend a camera for her birthday in a few days. After that I will get serious about looking at a PSU. My friend who is a PC builder wants to check out my system in a few days. He was an electronic technician for 40+yrs I will have him look at my PSU and see what he says.
newparad1gm
05-08-09, 02:13 PM
It isn't the wattage that matters. Its the 12v rails and the overall quality of the unit.
The 500W Antec PSU I had 4 years ago had similar 12v rails (18a and 17a I think) and I was using a much weaker CPU at the time (athlon x2). I can't remember if it was the 7900GTX, 7950GX2 or the 8800GTX that did it (I had them all in a span of 8 months :retard: ), but my PSU started whistling and I had to RMA it. I'd never lost a good PSU before that, so I figured it was just overloaded.
Just to be safe, I bought my OCZ GameXStream700W (4 12v rails at 18a each) and used the replacement Antec 500W in another (weaker) system where its been running fine 2 1/2 years with no whistling.
Since then I've been a bit more careful about how much I load onto a PSU, especially if it isn't a good name brand.
If you want to get a new unit musman, there are a lot of options it just depends how much you have to spend. Corsair's PSUs are among the best you can buy, but you're looking at $100 for one that'd be good for your setup.
This OCZ StealthXStream 600W should be good for you though and its cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010
Hmm, I didn't take a close look at his PSU. The Rosewill I was using had quad 12V with ~18A each rails, and it was only 30W more power, so I just assumed his was as well. Taking a closer look, seeing that its only dual 12V with 19A each, that is fairly weaksauce for a 600W PSU.
Other factors will go into how well your PSU performs also, but perhaps it might be best to upgrade the PSU.
newparad1gm
05-08-09, 02:15 PM
Rosewill is ok for budget systems but I wouldn't trust them with a powerful system like yours.
I'm not sure exactly what you'd need for GTX 285 SLI but this unit is awesome:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009
The customer reviews show a lot of people running GTX 285 SLI on that thing.
I can vouch for that PSU. I'm running GTX 280s SLI which suck even more power than the 285s, as well as a third 8400 GS on it with no problems whatsoever. Its a bit messy on the cable side though, and if you don't have a good cable management case (the Antec 900 isn't one unfortunately, perhaps you should go for the Antec 902), the cables be everywhere inside your machine. That is my main problem right now with my build.
I can vouch for that PSU. I'm running GTX 280s SLI which suck even more power than the 285s, as well as a third 8400 GS on it with no problems whatsoever. Its a bit messy on the cable side though, and if you don't have a good cable management case (the Antec 900 isn't one unfortunately, perhaps you should go for the Antec 902), the cables be everywhere inside your machine. That is my main problem right now with my build.
It's OK, I will just cut off the cables that I am not using. :p
Do you have the 900 case? How do you like it, other than the cables thing..
DeusGear
05-08-09, 02:29 PM
Thank you for the suggestions! I just ordered a nice case so I should be fine with heat. If and when I want to overclock I will need a better cooler. I will keep them in mind.
The coolers I listed were for the tiny case XD. If you want real coolers then go with either true 120 (might need sanding) or xigmatek cooler on the cheaper side.
The coolers I listed were for the tiny case XD. If you want real coolers then go with either true 120 (might need sanding) or xigmatek cooler on the cheaper side.
It's going to be a while before I get a new cooler. I have a lot to learn about overclocking before I go messing around with that. By then I think they will have a lot more options for coolers.
newparad1gm
05-08-09, 03:46 PM
It's OK, I will just cut off the cables that I am not using. :p
Do you have the 900 case? How do you like it, other than the cables thing..
Its a great case in terms of airflow (2 front 120mm fans, 1 rear 120mm fan, and 1 top 200mm fan). Even with the mess of cables I have, my machine keeps pretty cool. The fans do get pretty loud though, but then again I have them all on max as well. Its pretty roomy also (you will have to remove this interior assembly for an extra fan in front of the top hard drive bay though to fit in a card like the GTX 280).
Its a great case in terms of airflow (2 front 120mm fans, 1 rear 120mm fan, and 1 top 200mm fan). Even with the mess of cables I have, my machine keeps pretty cool. The fans do get pretty loud though, but then again I have them all on max as well. Its pretty roomy also (you will have to remove this interior assembly for an extra fan in front of the top hard drive bay though to fit in a card like the GTX 280).
I see what your saying now that I look at the photos more closely. Not a big deal.
So I am sure about my GTX-285 now. I just installed W7RC yesterday along with Cryisis. So far I have set the graphics settings to "Extreme" or "gamer"...whatever the highest setting is called. I have only tested 4x AA so far and the game runs really smooth with a steady frame rate. Never would have even dreamed about that with the 4850. I am having some nvidia driver issues with W7RC still but, I'm working on it. Thank for all the help!
Thunderbolt56
05-11-09, 10:56 AM
I'm not sure exactly what you'd need for GTX 285 SLI but this unit is awesome:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009
I have that very same PSU in my new core i7/GTX 285 system and it doesn't skip a beat.
CaptNKILL
05-11-09, 06:35 PM
So I am sure about my GTX-285 now. I just installed W7RC yesterday along with Cryisis. So far I have set the graphics settings to "Extreme" or "gamer"...whatever the highest setting is called. I have only tested 4x AA so far and the game runs really smooth with a steady frame rate. Never would have even dreamed about that with the 4850. I am having some nvidia driver issues with W7RC still but, I'm working on it. Thank for all the help!
Glad to hear everything is working out!
Enjoy. :D
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