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FastRedPonyCar
05-10-09, 07:54 AM
I still am in shock at how little the prices for i7 hardware has dropped. I'm looking to upgrade the cpu/ram/mobo in about a month's time and I'm just wondering if there is anything that will be substancially better on the near horizon that would be worth holding out for or that would drive current hardware prices down or should I just suck it up and buy the stuff?

The tentative hardware list is:

150 gig velociraptor
920 i7
6 gigs corsair ddr3 1600

And either the ASUS P6T LGA or Deluxe.. not sure on which one is actually better yet. But from what I've gathered, both are outstanding and fit into my sub $300 mobo budget.


Anyways, all of this is around $750. My budget will be around $800 depending on if the Zalman CNPS9900 is much better than the 9700 I've got now.

Thoughts?

I plan on getting one of the GTX300's later near the end of the year. I'm hoping that the i7 platform will breathe a bit more life into the 8800 ultra. The old gray mare is starting to show her age.

XDanger
05-10-09, 08:23 AM
How long would you want to keep it for before the next upgrade?

Talk of the i7 as never being intended as a home platform and new stuff soon would put me off.

Is that right?

FastRedPonyCar
05-10-09, 08:39 AM
probably a long time. I mainly need something with more than 2 cores to handle cpu intensive recording software. most systems sold as digital audio workstations have Q6600's in them. If I'm going to upgrade, I'm not just going to drop a 6600 in...especially after seeing i7 benchmarks vs q6600 benchmarks.

a12ctic
05-10-09, 11:26 AM
The reason why the i7 hasn't dropped in price is because Intel is going to ride it. There's no reason to release something faster immediately. That's just how it works. They haven't even filled in their low-mid end segment with the i7 based chips (i5). Basically, the chips consistently cost Intel less money, but they can still sell them for the same price because of the state AMD is in.

Its like when the X2's were king. AMD rode the train because it was easy money, then of course, when Intel released the C2D they were caught off guard.

FastRedPonyCar
05-10-09, 11:54 AM
same as the nvidia 8800's. they were so good for so long and prices stayed high forever.

AthlonXP1800
05-10-09, 02:10 PM
Well the truth why Core i7 prices not dropped because there is no demand and it not selling well, it never reached volume production. 6 months after launch Intel shipped 1 million Nehalem CPUs BUT only half of them are Xeon 5500s and the rest are Core i7 CPUs. So we probably talk about something like 300,000 Core i7 920s shipped.

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/42340/135/

Intel will need to reach volume production in order to drop the price but i7 920s wont reach the magic 1 million units because Nehalem CPUs will be replace by 32nm Westmere CPUs schedule to launch later this year.

I think both Core 2 Quads and Nvidia CUDA killed Core i7 sales, people probably not bother about Core i7 when Windows 7 launch with ATI & Nvidia's working OpenCL driver.

Absolution
05-10-09, 02:45 PM
If I were building a machine that was supposed to be ~$600, I'd still go with 775. It will probably stay this way up until September or later. i7 is a great chip/platform, but 775 chips are easily OC'ed and cheap. Their motherboards have also had time to mature. I'm looking to get rid of this E7200, but only for a quad on sale for like, $100-120 ish.

FastRedPonyCar
05-10-09, 03:47 PM
If I were building a machine that was supposed to be ~$600, I'd still go with 775. It will probably stay this way up until September or later. i7 is a great chip/platform, but 775 chips are easily OC'ed and cheap. Their motherboards have also had time to mature. I'm looking to get rid of this E7200, but only for a quad on sale for like, $100-120 ish.

unless I'm mistaken, the oc'd 920 benchmarks are much quicker than the quad 775's?

fasedww
05-10-09, 04:13 PM
unless I'm mistaken, the oc'd 920 benchmarks are much quicker than the quad 775's?

No kidding, I7 920 and overclock easy, good value and performance.:D

methimpikehoses
05-10-09, 04:46 PM
unless I'm mistaken, the oc'd 920 benchmarks are much quicker than the quad 775's?

Yes, they are.

bob saget
05-10-09, 07:06 PM
i am also actually looking to start slowly pulling parts together during the summer. will just hold out a bit longer and we will see.

methimpikehoses
05-10-09, 07:38 PM
I got my chip used and my board on sale for VERY cheap. So it can be done on a decent budget if you time it right and maybe even get something used.

CaptNKILL
05-10-09, 07:44 PM
i am also actually looking to start slowly pulling parts together during the summer. will just hold out a bit longer and we will see.

I'm not sure what to do with my system.

It runs most things very well, but I always want more. :p

I won't be doing a CPU upgrade for a while but I don't know if I should just buy an OEM Q9550 for around $225 (ebay) or go the X58+920+6Gb route for around $575 and sell my current CPU, mobo and ram.

Regardless of what CPU I'll be using, I plan on getting a GT300 (or the ATI equivalent) by the end of the year... if it lives up to the rumors of course.

If there were plans for a more power efficient (and cooler running) i7 I'd buy one of those for sure, but I haven't heard about anything like that. Other than the i5.

AdamK47
05-10-09, 08:48 PM
I'm just glad I bought my i7 920 back in November. Great CPU and it's been at 3.8GHz for 6 months problem free.

breathemetal
05-10-09, 09:38 PM
HELL YES its worth it.

nekrosoft13
05-10-09, 10:45 PM
i went from q6600 to 920 i7 and i have to say it is well worth it.

Retrolock
05-11-09, 01:11 AM
I have no plans to upgrade just yet, mainly because my funding for pc hardware is a bit tight right now. But I would upgrade to i7 if i could :D

Muppet
05-11-09, 02:59 AM
i went from q6600 to 920 i7 and i have to say it is well worth it.

I went from a QX9650 to the I7 920 and it has been well worth it.

CaptNKILL
05-11-09, 03:09 AM
I went from a QX9650 to the I7 920 and it has been well worth it.

What kind of improvements have you noticed?

Toss3
05-11-09, 03:44 AM
I went from a q6600 to a an i7 920 and it was well worth it! :)

Dreamweavernoob
05-11-09, 04:59 AM
Is it worth buying a I7 940.

Reason I ask is, a fellow is selling his for slightly under the price of a I7 920 D0. Both models are retail and his is but 5 weeks old.

Should I go for his, or should I go for the D0?

cheers.

Muppet
05-11-09, 05:01 AM
What kind of improvements have you noticed?

Well one of the the biggest differences was the overclocking ability of the 920 is staggering compared to the QX9650. A chip that is half the price hit's 4Ghz with less voltage than 9650. It is also easy to achieve. So bang for your buck, there is no comparison.

There is a noticeable difference in games loading up. I compared it to my old system ( i sold it to a friend) So there is a difference there. That could also be attributed to the memory performance or Tri-Channel DDR3.

I don't do any video encoding, but have heard there is quite an increase in performance there.

That's only a couple and i'm sure there are more. Just have to think of some. :)

Muppet
05-11-09, 05:03 AM
Is it worth buying a I7 940.

Reason I ask is, a fellow is selling his for slightly under the price of a I7 920 D0. Both models are retail and his is but 5 weeks old.

Should I go for his, or should I go for the D0?

cheers.

Personally i'd get a 920 D0. They overclock to around the same clocks as the 940 C0. Temps are less as well.

mullet
05-11-09, 08:23 AM
I would rather get a SSD then upgrade the whole system. I think a good Intel SSD would give the 775 socket crowd a better performance gain.

musman
05-11-09, 09:04 AM
When referring to the I7-920 what does "DO" stand for?