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AirRaid
06-01-09, 05:26 PM
Natal - Intro
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-project-natal/50013

Natal - Family Play
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-project-natal/50018

Lionhead's Peter Molyneux 'Milo' Project for Natal
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-lionhead-milo/50016



Microsoft shows off motion-sensing game control, Project Natal
Dean Takahashi | June 1st, 2009

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Trying to one-up Nintendo, Microsoft showed off a game control scheme where you use your body to control what happens in a game.

Dubbed Project Natal, the new game control system uses a 3-D depth camera to capture your movements in front of the TV and translate them into control actions for a game.

Don Mattrick, head of Microsoft’s game business, took the stage at the Microsoft press conference at the E3 game show to show off the system. Director Steven Spielberg came out on stage to praise Microsoft for showing off something that he had been dreaming about for many years.

“Before, there was a barrier separating video game players from everyone else,” Mattrick said.

Microsoft showed a video that showed how the game system could be used to control games such as fighting or skateboarding games. You can scan your own skateboard into a game and then use it to ride on in a skateboarding game. The aim is to get more people to play games who would otherwise be intimidated by a traditional game controller with tons of buttons. The idea is to make people feel more connected to a game, said Peter Molyneux, head of Microsoft’s Lionhead game division. Molyneux showed a game above, dubbed Milo, where you can interact with a little boy, a virtual character, and explore a world with your own body movements.

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You can use the system to control your Xbox Live avatar, or virtual character, on the TV screen. Hence, you can navigate through the Xbox 360’s dashboard using gestures captured by the camera. Microsoft showed off some demo games where you can paint pictures on the TV using swipes of your hands. Another game showed how you can also kick balls back and forth in a soccer-like simulation. You can also swoosh your hand through water and make it splash. Microsoft pointed out that you can’t do these things with similar accuracy with the Nintendo Wii.

We’ve reported that Microsoft acquired 3D depth camera maker 3DV Systems and is also working with Prime Sense, another 3D depth camera company. Microsoft is shipping game design tools for Project Natal today. As we reported, that means games with the system won’t be ready until late 2010.

http://venturebeat.com/2009/06/01/microsoft-shows-off-motion-sensing-game-control-project-natal/




many more articles on Natal

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/988/988693p1.html
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/988/988701p1.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-10253306-235.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10253586-1.html
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/58906
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/19801/Project-Natal-Xbox-360-Motion-Camera-Revealed/
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/GameOn/story?id=7725630&page=1
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/technologybrierdudleysblog/2009286427_microsoft_xbox_throws_down_gau.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/06/microsofte3.html
http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=7948
http://www.gearlog.com/2009/06/e3_microsoft_announces_gesture.php
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/e3-2009/5424429/E3-2009-Microsoft-launches-Xbox-360-controller-free-games-system.html
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.phtml/24486/microsoft-reveals-controller-free-project-natal.phtml
http://gizmodo.com/5274319/xbox-360-full+body-motion-control-is-here-project-natal
http://www.developmag.com/news/32018/Microsoft-exposes-new-motion-sensing-camera
http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18682
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/microsoft-debuts-project-natal-for-xbox-360
http://www.endsights.com/2009/06/01/e3-09-xbox-360-motion-controls-revealed-molyneuxs-project-milo-shown/
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hPA9tbou_hW2goqBV-EyL9FCTGywD98I2OGG0
http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-01-2009/0005036115&EDATE=
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2009/06/67512899/1
http://360.kombo.com/article.php?artid=16504
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/E3-2009-Microsoft-s-NATAL-Is-Full-Body-Full-Voice-Recognition-Device-17897.html
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31049821
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/06/01/microsoft.project.natal/
http://www.gamefocus.ca/?nav=new&nid=5510
http://www.sunherald.com/prnewswire/story/1382447.html
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/news/133216.20090602.Microsoft-announce-Project-Natal/
http://www.azcentral.com/business/consumer/articles/2009/06/01/20090601xboxcontroller-ON.html
http://www.neowin.net/news/gamers/09/06/01/microsoft-introduces-controller-free-gaming-project-natal
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/be924724-4ed3-11de-8c10-00144feabdc0,dwp_uuid=e8477cc4-c820-11db-b0dc-000b5df10621.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology/2009/06/01/xbox-project-natal-blows-wii-away-with-full-body-motion-control-with-video-115875-21407558/
http://www.slipperybrick.com/2009/06/microsoft-announces-project-natal-motion-controller-for-xbox-360/
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=23863
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=216364

Lyme
06-01-09, 05:39 PM
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/06/microsoft-morphing-xbox-360-into-social-entertainment-hub.ars
The motion-sensing camera, called Natal, is real, and Microsoft showed off how it is used to control the UI for the system, explaining that now anyone can play a game. Welcome to the social.

The motion-camera, which in fact does look functionally identical to the 3DV demo we previously wrote about, allows you to control games, try on virtual clothes using your own image, and even use hand-motions to buzz in while playing game shows. Voice commands? They'll be in there. Microsoft brought Steven Spielberg onto the stage to demo the technology, and his avatar moved in real time as he controled the UI. While many called this technology a gimmick before E3, everyone seems completely impressed by what's being shown here today. This isn't waving your hands around like the Wii, this is a very immersive technology tied to a very powerful console. The game demos look promising, including the ability to simply paint on a virtual canvas with your hands and voice commands. The sense of play is very Nintendo, and that's a high compliment for Microsoft.

In a slightly creepy twist, you'll no longer have to sign into your Live account; the system will know who is playing it by your face. Peter Molyneux showed off a game called Milo, where an animated character talks to you and you can talk back. Water shows your own reflection. You can draw a picture and show it to the television, "giving it" to a character who then interacts with the image. The level of interaction looks amazing.


Sounds cool, but as always I'm going to wait till it is on sale to make judgements about how good or bad it really is.

fizzelopeguss
06-01-09, 05:44 PM
Sh*t.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-UZv3AS-E

nekrosoft13
06-01-09, 05:47 PM
Sh*t.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-UZv3AS-E

haha

Mr. Hunt
06-01-09, 05:54 PM
Technology wise it is impressive. But I just can't see myself spending extra money to do what was shown... just have no use for it personally. I want to relax on my couch. Not flail my arms and legs like a tard.

|MaguS|
06-01-09, 05:55 PM
EyeToy Advance! Sony has been working on this for years now... anyone remember Sony's little pet thing from last E3?

Buio
06-01-09, 06:08 PM
EyeToy Advance! Sony has been working on this for years now... anyone remember Sony's little pet thing from last E3?

It is no secret that there already exists other interactive cameras, but question is how much you can do with them and how well it is integrated with the system and upcoming games (of course those suited for it).

S.I.N
06-01-09, 06:22 PM
Watching them demo it I wasn't expecting it to seem so far ahead. It actually seems a step further than the Wii and EyeToy which is closer to it than the Wii waggle. In a odd way I cant see gameplay catching up to it though for years. And how will they get down the walking movements? I can see myself enjoying a racing game though on it.


EyeToy Advance! Sony has been working on this for years now... anyone remember Sony's little pet thing from last E3?

Did you see them demo it? To me it looked way past Eyetoy. You will even able to control the whole system interface with it.

Buenamos
06-01-09, 06:29 PM
it looks absolutely incredible. I can't wait for it to launch!

Buio
06-01-09, 06:51 PM
It for sure is Microsoft trying to widen their market and include other type of gamers into their system, especially when considering the Facebook and Twitter announcements too.

|MaguS|
06-01-09, 06:51 PM
Did you see them demo it? To me it looked way past Eyetoy. You will even able to control the whole system interface with it.

We've seen demos of the Eyetoy doing more then just motions with the hands. Remember the whole Drawing Game demo? Or the Pet Monkey? Or playing with cups to pick up water?

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Sony has been testing alot of innovative things, many of why MS showed off... it's just MS showed it in a grander style.

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Tuork
06-01-09, 07:03 PM
I saw the promo for this a couple of minutes ago, but i'd like to see some actual demos.
Can someone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? OP has waaay too many too look at each one.

I have to say, I'm very impressed by this. If they can actually deliver the type of interaction they are advertising, it's going to be bloody amazing. Yes, some people might rather sit on a couch, but from a technical standpoint, this technology is effing unbelievable.

S.I.N
06-01-09, 07:05 PM
We've seen demos of the Eyetoy doing more then just motions with the hands. Remember the whole Drawing Game demo? Or the Pet Monkey? Or playing with cups to pick up water?

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Sony has been testing alot of innovative things, many of why MS showed off... it's just MS showed it in a grander style.

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Regardless, MS is taking it a whole alot further than just tickling a monkey. The EyeToy always seems like it would be nothing but a novelty for things like what you posted. MS demonstrated it being used in nearly every manner from games to fully controlling the system interface. Until Sony shows there motion sensing devise or take the EyeToy to that level MS has shown they will be taking this thing I don't see you can play the card "well look Sony has camera that does some of the same things".

Hey, I thought of the EyeToy also but after all that crap they did on stage which was very convincing its clear there taking it to another level. Maybe Sony will match it tomorrow.

Buio
06-01-09, 07:08 PM
So basically MS beat them to the punch and maybe with a more advanced product too. Then again it is not revealed when it's going to be available.

|MaguS|
06-01-09, 07:43 PM
So basically MS beat them to the punch and maybe with a more advanced product too. Then again it is not revealed when it's going to be available.

Exactly. Ms just came out with a similar yet more advance technology before Sony can even show us where they are now(since we have been in the dark for years now). I'm sure in the labs they both are at the same level but ms got it out of the lab first.

SIN, MS just had the software to show it doing those actions. There's no reason to believe that the eyetoy can't do it.

Buio
06-01-09, 07:55 PM
Exactly. Ms just came out with a similar yet more advance technology before Sony can even show us where they are now(since we have been in the dark for years now). I'm sure in the labs they both are at the same level but ms got it out of the lab first.

Well Sony can still launch their product a bit more laid back, and then let Microsoft test if there is a big market for it. If there is, there is no reason Sony cant keep up. And if there are two consoles with a similar device, there will be more software for both supporting the technology overall.

Danothemano
06-01-09, 07:56 PM
So do the lights have to be on? Because my projector would be completely useless then.

Buio
06-01-09, 07:57 PM
So do the lights have to be on? Because my projector would be completely useless then.

That is how I understood, that it requires a certain amount of light on the player.

|MaguS|
06-01-09, 07:58 PM
I hope it doesn't catch on. I don't like the wii controls, I want to relax no get a work out while playing. I won't mind if it's use to control the OS but I don't want to game like that.

Buio
06-01-09, 08:04 PM
I hope it doesn't catch on. I don't like the wii controls, I want to relax no get a work out while playing. I won't mind if it's use to control the OS but I don't want to game like that.

I agree fully, it is something I wouldn't use ever. But if it is successful it does allow Sony and MS to pick up customers from Wii. I see it as an add-on that can appeal to certain people, but not most hardcore gamers.

S.I.N
06-01-09, 08:25 PM
How can you two say you would never use something like this? If you are the type that works out this thing could potentially offer a awesome experience and for lazy kids even. It seems more effortless than the Wii controller which is really not that bad.


Exactly. Ms just came out with a similar yet more advance technology before Sony can even show us where they are now(since we have been in the dark for years now). I'm sure in the labs they both are at the same level but ms got it out of the lab first.

SIN, MS just had the software to show it doing those actions. There's no reason to believe that the eyetoy can't do it.

So why knock MS for doing something that Sony has not? Sony as you say has been sitting on something like this for years and let MS beat them to the punch. And I bet MS now owns some type of patent to all of this so Sony can never implement the EyeToy to the core of the system like MS has. I wont be surprised if Sony's motion controller borrows nothing from the EyeToy and in fact comes with some type of gadget that has to be held in the same manner as the Wii.

Buio
06-01-09, 08:48 PM
How can you two say you would never use something like this? If you are the type that works out this thing could potentially offer a awesome experience and for lazy kids even. It seems more effortless than the Wii controller which is really not that bad.

Never say never, but I just don't think I would use it. For example the racing game they showed. Yeah it can see you turn hands to turn the wheel, but precision? And what about changing gears, breaking and accelerating? In fps games, how does it know where I am aiming? And how do I move around? I just don't see how it can be of wide use in many game types.

Lyme
06-01-09, 08:54 PM
I like the face recognition, and the hands free movie controls.. also very minority report ish.

trivium nate
06-01-09, 09:10 PM
Stupid it to much like the wii now

Mr. Hunt
06-02-09, 12:57 AM
BAM there it is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXN7vLPsDSM&fmt=18)

Just had to post that because I thought it was hilarious when I saw it live during the conference. I just love when little things go wrong during demonstrations, because it gives us hilarious videos.