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Uttar
06-17-03, 02:17 PM
Hey everyone,

I finally finished GPU:RW V2.0. Alpha.
The new features include:
- Niftier design.
- Possibility to see all rumors thanks to a "Next Page" feature, before it was limited to the last 50.
- All past rumors have been archived in the new design.

The new page:
www.notforidiots.com/GPURW.php

The archived contents:
www.notforidiots.com/GPURWOld.php

The final version will include a "find rumors by product" feature, making GPU:RA completely useless.


Feedback, comments, suggestions?


Uttar

GlowStick
06-17-03, 03:35 PM
wooooo

a table, looks good!

druga runda
06-18-03, 09:40 AM
Parse error: parse error, expecting `','' or `';'' in /www.notforidiots.com/GPURW.php on line 27

with IE 5 and Windows 2000 SP3

oops, correction, tried once again and than I got trough nicely to see the page...

as far as the layout is concerned - OK ;)

Uttar
06-18-03, 10:01 AM
Well, I'm still working on the script, so if it doesn't work, it just means I managed to upload a bug-ridden one :)

Had a few people saying they don't like the current colors. What would you people prefer? Black on white? I personally hate that, but eh - maybe I could enable people to choose one of two designs.

Sounds like the font in the tables are broken too. Bah!


Uttar

GlowStick
06-18-03, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Uttar
Well, I'm still working on the script, so if it doesn't work, it just means I managed to upload a bug-ridden one :)

Had a few people saying they don't like the current colors. What would you people prefer? Black on white? I personally hate that, but eh - maybe I could enable people to choose one of two designs.

Sounds like the font in the tables are broken too. Bah!


Uttar

black on white shows all of monitors defects!

EG, if you have a apature grill CRT it shows the lines really bad, and if u have a lcd with dead pixels it shows the dead ones really bad : (
witch i have both he!

but i did epxeirnce a phenonama where 2 of my dead pixles just started working again, it was pritty cool, like a xmas present!

Uttar
06-18-03, 03:52 PM
Muhahah! Fear me and my perfect 19" LCD!
Damn, monitor companies would pay me a lot for Cost-Per-Click ads on NFI. Hmm... :D j/k

Okay, maybe I'll try with other colors and see if it looks better...

BTW, the search feature is 100% operation now! :) It isn't very optimized yet, but it works great.
Of course, not very useful right now since all I got is 2 posts about Loki, eh, but who cares! :)


Uttar

druga runda
06-18-03, 05:48 PM
this is all I see from the latest post
for RV380

XBit claims ATI will release a RV380 at the same time as the R420, and that its main difference with the RV350 is that it

whether you stopped here or not you know ;)... but this now is Mozilla 1.01 with Win 2000 sp3

As from color background, I actually like Black and White

Uttar
06-18-03, 05:54 PM
There, fixed.
The problem comes from the fact that it all becomes problematic as soon as I put " or ' in my message. Little bug in the administration system that I didn't have the time to fix yet :)

The newspost was correct before, but I deleted it by error so I had to redo it and forgot the limitation it seems.

The search system, as I said, is 100% operational. Fonts will also be fixed sometimes tommorow.


Uttar

rwolf
06-19-03, 01:58 AM
You should show which rumors turn out to be true and which are garbage.

Uttar
06-19-03, 05:24 AM
Eh, that'd take a *ridiculous* amount of time to manage, sorry!

And furthermore, some rumors are "targets" - that is, things the company currently *expect* to deliver.
Take some NV31 rumors for example ( not sure if I ever posted those, too ) - they said the target was of 450Mhz. AFAIK, it really was, and nVidia missed it massively.
But good luck making sure it really was the target, too!


Uttar

Uttar
06-22-03, 08:35 AM
In other news, I'm working on a forum sysem for NFI.
On the plus side of things, I'll finally have a forum in X days ( I know when, but I won't tell you to guarantee I won't look bad :P )
On the minus side of things, I want to have finished this script so darn fast that there won't be ANY type of testing, so it'll beat the heck out of the NV3x debacle ;)


Uttar

StealthHawk
06-25-03, 11:39 PM
Stickied the new thread and unstickied the old thread (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8125).

Geforce4ti4200
08-27-03, 01:19 AM
why did the old thread have to get locked? also nice table, although isnt black text on a white background easier on the eyes? :confused:

Joe DeFuria
09-05-03, 04:22 PM
XBit discloses some info regarding the RV351 and RV381. Both are slated for around Q1/H1 2004. RV381 is ATI's personal little "DX9 for $79" solution.

Assuming it supports PCI-Express too, ATI is looking good.

Too bad in a similar timeframe, nVidia will have "DX9 for less than $79" and Shaders 3.0. DX9 for either $79 or $99.

PS 3.0 will be irrelevant to OEMs. They cannot market that. They can market DX9, and PCI Express.

Maybe they'll win in speed, but nVidia will win in features, and ultimately, for OEMs, nVidia will be the grand champion.

Disagree. It's a toss up at this point. Likely, the grand champion will be whoever hits the sweetspot between speed and cost. As long as both support "DX9" and both support "PCI-Express", feature support is equal as far as OEMs are concerned.

ATI, did you ever consider, like, being aggessive in the low-end or something? Because nVidia certainly is...

And we might ask nVidia: "did you ever, like, consider having reasonable margins in the low-end or something?"

nVidia is currently encountering lower margins and declining market share. Being "aggressive" for the sake of being aggressive is not necessarily the best route....

Bjorn
09-06-03, 06:32 AM
Disagree. It's a toss up at this point. Likely, the grand champion will be whoever hits the sweetspot between speed and cost. As long as both support "DX9" and both support "PCI-Express", feature support is equal as far as OEMs are concerned.


Agree.


And we might ask nVidia: "did you ever, like, consider having reasonable margins in the low-end or something?"

nVidia is currently encountering lower margins and declining market share. Being "aggressive" for the sake of being aggressive is not necessarily the best route.... [/B]

Might not be the best route for the company in the long run and of course , if it goes really bad, not for the consumers either. But you can hardly say that it's a bad thing for the consumers as it is now. Btw, do we know that the "low margins" also includes the low end ? I thought that it was mostly because of the low yield on their current 0.13u parts.

Uttar
09-06-03, 10:58 AM
Psst, there's an NFI forum ;)

Originally posted by Joe DeFuria Disagree. It's a toss up at this point. Likely, the grand champion will be whoever hits the sweetspot between speed and cost. As long as both support "DX9" and both support "PCI-Express", feature support is equal as far as OEMs are concerned.

Agreed, it's a lot less important. But we'll see how nV will market that - I doubt OEMs will care much, but we'll see.
No matter what, if ATI does it at $79, nVidia will have lower prices than that for DX9 with a respin ( actually, I'm not sure exactly it's a respin, some people seem to refuse the optical shrink theory though ) of the NV34.

And we might ask nVidia: "did you ever, like, consider having reasonable margins in the low-end or something?"

nVidia is currently encountering lower margins and declining market share. Being "aggressive" for the sake of being aggressive is not necessarily the best route....

Well, nVidia IS satisfied of its NV34 margins, and there's still room for improvement through respins or optical shrinks or whatever.
I'd speculate their margins on the NV34 pretty much are equal to what their GF4 MX margins were when they were launched.

Also, I believe most of the margin deterioration comes from the fact they are selling a LOT less $199-$499 cards than before - they're nearly becoming a low-end/mid-end focused company at this pace!


Uttar

digitalwanderer
09-06-03, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Uttar
I believe most of the margin deterioration comes from the fact they are selling a LOT less $199-$499 cards than before - they're nearly becoming a low-end/mid-end focused company at this pace!
Yeah, they're increasing their DX9 marketshare dramatically...but only on the low-end. But their low-end DX9 increase has been huge while their mid to upper end sales have pretty much stalled.

I'm just waiting for the low-end DX9 backlash when all those people start finding out just how "DX9 compatible" the 5200 is. :(

Uttar
09-07-03, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
I'm just waiting for the low-end DX9 backlash when all those people start finding out just how "DX9 compatible" the 5200 is. :(

Well, it got all DX9 Shaders 2.0. features in hardware. It's in no way a scam.
Although IMO, the best application for the NV34 is workstation stuff: Cheap and slow, but very flexible - and flexibility is very important for workstations ( the Quadro FX 500 is based on the NV34GL )

And many of those people might never realize their 5200 is not good at all under DX9. How would they know? Certainly not by playing Counter Strike :(


Uttar