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snowmanwithahat
07-10-09, 09:26 AM
So I know alot of you have gotten to try Windows 7..... I have already and although it seems great... I'm really dissapointed that they didnt' add some simple things that should have been there all along.

1. Virtual Drive mounting .... why isn't this included? it's super useful... I like to create .iso images of all my games so that I can load them without farting around with finding CDs.... yes they're legit cds too.

2. Native .rar support. Come on now... you all have to admit that it's horribly inconvenient to grab a seperate program (winrar) to open up .rar files... the built in unzipper is a joke these days.

3. Virtual Desktops - Anyone that uses a linux system knows how valuable these are... I know there's mods out there to do that to your windows desktop but FFS build it in.

4. Built in SSH and SFTP support - Once again, linux users know how frustrating it is to go from a linux shell to a windows one and have to get putty / psftp to be able to do things that are built into free operating systems... (Yes, they're both free too... but why can't Microsoft create it's own implementation)

5. The top 4 things would make me very happy..... I know I'm dreaming but a built in virtual machine software would be pro... just simply amazing





Really though, seperate programs exist for everything I mentioned (mostly free)... even if they're not with Microsoft's wallet you could either design your own or gobble up the smaller companies and integrate it in....

They made a step in the right direction with the inclusion of being able to burn .iso images. But it won't let me do some... seems to only work on cd iso images right now.

ViN86
07-10-09, 09:41 AM
So I know alot of you have gotten to try Windows 7..... I have already and although it seems great... I'm really dissapointed that they didnt' add some simple things that should have been there all along.

1. Virtual Drive mounting .... why isn't this included? it's super useful... I like to create .iso images of all my games so that I can load them without farting around with finding CDs.... yes they're legit cds too.

2. Native .rar support. Come on now... you all have to admit that it's horribly inconvenient to grab a seperate program (winrar) to open up .rar files... the built in unzipper is a joke these days.

3. Virtual Desktops - Anyone that uses a linux system knows how valuable these are... I know there's mods out there to do that to your windows desktop but FFS build it in.

4. Built in SSH and SFTP support - Once again, linux users know how frustrating it is to go from a linux shell to a windows one and have to get putty / psftp to be able to do things that are built into free operating systems... (Yes, they're both free too... but why can't Microsoft create it's own implementation)

5. The top 4 things would make me very happy..... I know I'm dreaming but a built in virtual machine software would be pro... just simply amazing





Really though, seperate programs exist for everything I mentioned (mostly free)... even if they're not with Microsoft's wallet you could either design your own or gobble up the smaller companies and integrate it in....

They made a step in the right direction with the inclusion of being able to burn .iso images. But it won't let me do some... seems to only work on cd iso images right now.

I don't understand why you are complaining about these things when they are all free programs and they work perfectly. Most of these things have builtin menus that you can access if you right-click (WinRAR, PowerISO (not free), D-Tools, etc.).

The only benefit of these things being included is saving the 5 minutes it takes to install these tools.

And you can rip your game CD's and mount them. The problem is you have to circumvent the disc protection. It's possible, but it violates the DMCA and can't be discussed here.


And LOL @ your last few sentences. Yea MS buying up these companies would really help their constant legal troubles with anti-trust and monopoly lawsuits. :rofl

six_storm
07-10-09, 02:52 PM
I'd love to double-click on an ISO and mount it. That would be awesome in Windows.

Sazar
07-10-09, 03:21 PM
Honestly, it would be just another thing to sue Microsoft about.

Xophile
07-10-09, 04:04 PM
six:storm
Many apps can do that today, even D-tools free. Or you can try Daemount.

zoomy942
07-10-09, 04:15 PM
synaptics package manager?

nekrosoft13
07-10-09, 04:29 PM
Honestly, it would be just another thing to sue Microsoft about.

yap, few more years and they will sue them about notepad and wordpad.

mailman2
07-10-09, 05:11 PM
I agree with #1 and #2... alot.

snowmanwithahat
07-10-09, 05:12 PM
Yeh vin, of course you can use other programs to do these things... why though when you're already paying a microsoft alot of money for the operating system.


seriously think of the amount of money you'e paid for your various windows installs over the years, and they're ALL lacking, i'm talking about making windows a product people WANT to buy and aren't backed into buying because it's the only decent gaming platform... why can't it be good and 'required'.... it's only just required for most ****.

also, on copy protection. there is nothing illegal about ripping and mounting YOUR OWN image files that you have bought. it's illegal to sell and redistribute but seriously. I have another hard drive with all my game cds so taht when I frequently reinstall I can have them all ready without having to go searching.... now wouldn't that be useful if everytime i had to reinstall windows i didn't have to install something like alcohol 120.... which doesn't work in windows 7 yet that I know of.

you see my point? for someone who does alot of reinstalls, these 'small' apps are still a huge pain in the ass because of the fact that everyone needs them.

ViN86
07-10-09, 05:15 PM
Yeh vin, of course you can use other programs to do these things... why though when you're already paying a microsoft alot of money for the operating system.
Sure, but the tools are free....


seriously think of the amount of money you'e paid for your various windows installs over the years, and they're ALL lacking, i'm talking about making windows a product people WANT to buy and aren't backed into buying because it's the only decent gaming platform... why can't it be good and 'required'.... it's only just required for most ****.

Because MS would be assraped by anti-trust and monopoly lawsuits...

also, on copy protection. there is nothing illegal about ripping and mounting YOUR OWN image files that you have bought. it's illegal to sell and redistribute but seriously. I have another hard drive with all my game cds so taht when I frequently reinstall I can have them all ready without having to go searching.... now wouldn't that be useful if everytime i had to reinstall windows i didn't have to install something like alcohol 120.... which doesn't work in windows 7 yet that I know of.


Wrong. Circumventing any protection is a violation of the DMCA. It doesn't matter if you own it or not. (which is strange, but that's the law lol)

you see my point? for someone who does alot of reinstalls, these 'small' apps are still a huge pain in the ass because of the fact that everyone needs them.
Sorry, I don't really see the 5 min to install them as a huge PITA...

nekrosoft13
07-10-09, 05:26 PM
you see my point?.

nope

XDanger
07-10-09, 08:03 PM
1: Full Multi Monitor Support
2: Dual Mouse Support :D
3: A "Compatibility Mode" that works
4: A boot option on the same install allowing a stripped down version to load, Maybe boot option for media/games/internet/everything
5: Tree fiddy

Q
07-10-09, 09:41 PM
From a systems administration perspective, it would be glorious to have SSH built in. On our Solaris systems, its a godsend to not have to VNC into a damn machine to do simple file level actions. Plus, current free Windows SSH products (that can be used in the enterprise) are rare and hard to configure at best.

six_storm
07-10-09, 10:05 PM
six:storm
Many apps can do that today, even D-tools free. Or you can try Daemount.

But I want them built in. I don't want to have to d/l extra 3rd party apps to get my work/play done.

Tuork
07-11-09, 01:06 AM
1. Virtual Drive mounting .... why isn't this included? it's super useful... I like to create .iso images of all my games so that I can load them without farting around with finding CDs.... yes they're legit cds too.

2. Native .rar support. Come on now... you all have to admit that it's horribly inconvenient to grab a seperate program (winrar) to open up .rar files... the built in unzipper is a joke these days.

3. Virtual Desktops - Anyone that uses a linux system knows how valuable these are... I know there's mods out there to do that to your windows desktop but FFS build it in.

4. Built in SSH and SFTP support - Once again, linux users know how frustrating it is to go from a linux shell to a windows one and have to get putty / psftp to be able to do things that are built into free operating systems... (Yes, they're both free too... but why can't

I agree with 2 and 4, they are things that are pretty crucial when working on windows. At the very least there should be .rar support.

The other two things, while useful, probably would be better off being part of a 3rd party application... though I'm not too sure about Virtual desktops. I personally don't use them at all... not even while on Linux.


As for me, i would like to see:
- A good disk defrag utility.
- More UI customizable options (haven't really checked out Win7 to be honest)
- Snappy boot time
- Less predefined folders in Documents (I never use Pictures, Videos, etc etc folders. They annoy the fack out of me)

nekrosoft13
07-11-09, 01:54 AM
At the very least there should be .rar support.


why? show me 5 companies that actually distribute legal files compressed in rar (non-SFX files).

RaidenWoW
07-11-09, 06:29 AM
why? show me 5 companies that actually distribute legal files compressed in rar (non-SFX files).

I have to winrar things all the time into separate file sizes and send them via email to my work colleagues and hope they have winrar.

A bunch of my powerpoint presentations surpass the 24mb gmail limit.

Lfctony
07-11-09, 06:36 AM
I have to winrar things all the time into separate file sizes and send them via email to my work colleagues and hope they have winrar.

A bunch of my powerpoint presentations surpass the 24mb gmail limit.

Ever heard of self extracting archives?

ViN86
07-11-09, 09:23 AM
As for me, i would like to see:
- A good disk defrag utility.
- More UI customizable options (haven't really checked out Win7 to be honest)
- Snappy boot time
- Less predefined folders in Documents (I never use Pictures, Videos, etc etc folders. They annoy the fack out of me)

I think these are legitimate requests for the next Windows. I stand by my previous statement about WinRAR though.

I have to winrar things all the time into separate file sizes and send them via email to my work colleagues and hope they have winrar.

A bunch of my powerpoint presentations surpass the 24mb gmail limit.

Sounds like your use of WinRAR stems from the gmail limitation...

XDanger
07-11-09, 10:00 AM
Windows 7-Zip

Tuork
07-11-09, 12:52 PM
Windows 7-Zip
FTW :)

why? show me 5 companies that actually distribute legal files compressed in rar (non-SFX files).

Don't know what you mean by SFX files, but I randomly find things I need/use online in .rar format. And no, I'm not talking about illegal files of any kind.

You could say it's not downright necessary, but it would in fact be convenient. All in all, the Zip utility in Windows blows monkey chunks (at least in Vista). It wouldn't hurt at all for them to improve it.

nekrosoft13
07-11-09, 01:14 PM
It wouldn't hurt at all for them to improve it.

yes it would, all commercial compression companies would sue them

UberRN69
07-11-09, 04:22 PM
How about native support to make bootable USB drive/memory cards. Floppy drives have been out of the picture for 8 to 9 years now.

Or is it already in there?

RaidenWoW
07-11-09, 11:21 PM
I think the thing I'm trying to get at here is that winrar support should already be added despite the fact that pirates use winrar to distribute their files.

Why? Because it's convenient for the user.

Even if Windows 7 doesn't include winrar, what's going to stop the pirates from downloading it anyway? Hell, what's stopping them from pirating winrar pro?

It's just a few minutes annoyance for a pirate to download it, quite a few minutes annoyance for people who don't know what WinRaR is and receive a .rar file from a friend.

I don't advocate piracy and I don't think including winrar in W7 would increase it either. It's just like you people fighting against DRM because you say "It doesn't matter the pirates will pirate it anyway it will make it convenient for us if developers didn't include DRM."

Don't be hypocritical here people...

ViN86
07-12-09, 01:26 PM
I think the thing I'm trying to get at here is that winrar support should already be added despite the fact that pirates use winrar to distribute their files.

Why? Because it's convenient for the user.

Even if Windows 7 doesn't include winrar, what's going to stop the pirates from downloading it anyway? Hell, what's stopping them from pirating winrar pro?

It's just a few minutes annoyance for a pirate to download it, quite a few minutes annoyance for people who don't know what WinRaR is and receive a .rar file from a friend.

I don't advocate piracy and I don't think including winrar in W7 would increase it either. It's just like you people fighting against DRM because you say "It doesn't matter the pirates will pirate it anyway it will make it convenient for us if developers didn't include DRM."

Don't be hypocritical here people...

How the hell did you go from WinRAR to piracy? :wtf:

The point is, WinRAR is a third-party compression and is not just free to MS to distribute in their OS. If they included support, there would be lawsuits. They will never add .rar support, because they would have to pay for the rights to use it.