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prodikal
06-18-03, 10:29 AM
Ok i want an honest answer not just what someone has in there rig at the moment. What is a good cpu to use to see the benefits from a 5900/9800 vid card. THanx Alot :afro:

saturnotaku
06-18-03, 10:57 AM
The minimum CPU is the maximum that you can afford. The faster the CPU you get, the better your video card will scale with it.

If you have something like $150 to spend, get a Barton 2500+ Athlon processor, jam it in an nForce2 and overclock that bad boy.

Having moved up from a KT266A/Athlon XP 1800+ to an nForce2/overclocked Athlon 2400+ while maintaining the same modded Radeon 9500 (which I've since sold) I noticed a nice increase in performance.

Lfctony
06-18-03, 11:45 PM
I say at least a 2.53 P4 or an AMD 2500+ one. Having jumped from a 4200 to a 5800 with a 2.16 P4, I only gained around 1000 marks in 3DM2001, from 11800 to 12800. Now I went from 2.16 to 2.53@3Ghz and I'm breaking the 15K mark easily.

jAkUp
06-18-03, 11:57 PM
i dont think you really need that high... but i dont really recommend anything under 2ghz.... under that you may want to invest in a processor first.

Lfctony
06-19-03, 12:05 AM
But with only 2Ghz it performs very close to the Ti4X00 line of cards.Unless you increase AA and ANISO you won't understand much of a difference from a GF4 Ti.

bkswaney
06-19-03, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by jAkUp
i dont think you really need that high... but i dont really recommend anything under 2ghz.... under that you may want to invest in a processor first.

I agree. I sell more 2ghz systems. Great bang for the $.

But if u have it to spend 2.5+ P4 or 2500+ is the best. :)

The very best bang right now is my P4 2.4@ 3114. ;)

ricercar
06-19-03, 12:29 AM
This is practical current advice for UT2003 now, not a hypothetical guess regarding DoomII or HalfLife2. If you're going AMD, Barton is minimum consideration. Even a Barton 2500 offers double the cache of a Thoroughbred, plus it offers OC potential.

In UT2003 My GeForce FX 5800 Ultra notices a performance difference between a Barton 2500 nForce2 (Leadtech CR18D at work) and a Barton 3000+ nforce2 (Shuttle SN41G2 at home). The 2500 is noticably less responsive than the 3000+ using extensive custom maps, and even some of the .

The best example I can use is Matahari Studios' Campus Paintball scenario, accurately depicting NVIDIA's entire Santa Clara campus, inside and out. The building interiors are so accurate that I hear NVIDIA security wants it dumbed-down before public release. There is such massive amount of detail for the scenario that "instant action" requires 3-1/2 to 3-3/4 minutes to load from a 7200 RPM WD1200JB! With this map, I can run down the skywalks on my 3000+ system, but I walk with a 2500+. A GeForce4 Ti4800SE is unplayably slow on the 2500+ and marginally frustrating on the Barton 3000+

The graphics card is always going to be a gating factor, but as tectures and scenario data gets more complex, the CPU also needs to be hefty to keep up. My Barton 3000+ is noticably preferrable for playing UT2003. I suggest you don't consider anything less than a Barton.

prodikal
06-19-03, 12:52 AM
My initial thought was a A7N8X and a Barton 3000 but i hear they are trying to phase out the XP line so i think i am going to go with a Abit IC-7G and a 2.4C or 3.0C (or OC the 2.4 to 3.0 but i dont know much about OC'ing)

Any comments or help is welcome.

bkswaney
06-19-03, 12:59 AM
If your going with a 9800 stay away from the new "7205 and 875-865" Intel chipset motherboards.
They have a lot of problems with radeons.

But if u go with AMD the 9800 is great. :)