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solofly
06-19-03, 02:37 AM
Ati fanboys trying to convince that MikeC guy to change the domain name to something other than nVidia related. Another rage3d site brewing here...

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=13492&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

Kruno
06-19-03, 02:40 AM
Why not call it 'Kruno News'?

Hey, it's about me. :lol:

5150 Joker
06-19-03, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by solofly
Ati fanboys trying to convince that MikeC guy to change the domain name to something other than nVidia related. Another rage3d site brewing here...

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=13492&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

LOL worried? I don't think nvnews is going anywhere but he said he was considering starting a second site.

bkswaney
06-19-03, 02:55 AM
what about atidriverssux.com ;) "lol"

solofly
06-19-03, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by 5150 Joker
LOL worried?

Very. Shutdown tomorrow and see if I care...

solofly
06-19-03, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by bkswaney
what about atidriverssux.com ;) "lol"

That's about right too. Try loading and playing Tribes2 in opengl...

Nv40
06-19-03, 03:34 AM
my feedback is that NVnews.net is not anymore the site i used to visit ,
to know more about Nvidia news without reading first exactly the THE SAME DISCUSSION , but under Dozens of Anti-Nvidia threads first ,in the Nvidia news section.

its quite IRONIc how rage3d ,only post in their headlines the positive side of ATI ,the positive news of ATI ONLY and in their FOrums everything is well controlled in benefit for ATi users. here at Nvnews even the moderators and/or ADmins are responsible for the many DIssapointed NVusers with this site. that are Extremely tolerant with ANTi-Nvidia people ,that their only intentions is not to "inform" but to FLame Nvidia users for not using ATI cards . :rolleyes:

Dazz
06-19-03, 03:43 AM
Hey people have the right to test out other hardware and don't have to biased towards nVIDIA.

5150 Joker
06-19-03, 04:04 AM
You fanboys are truly a sad bunch. :lame:

solofly
06-19-03, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by 5150 Joker
You fanboys are truly a sad bunch. :lame:

I think you should start with youself first.

nin_fragile14
06-19-03, 04:30 AM
Nothing to get worried about.

StealthHawk
06-19-03, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by Nv40
my feedback is that NVnews.net is not anymore the site i used to visit ,
to know more about Nvidia news without reading first exactly the THE SAME DISCUSSION , but under Dozens of Anti-Nvidia threads first ,in the Nvidia news section.

Because most of the news these days is negative. Should we just ignore it? Should we[mods] lock and hide all threads that are anti-nvidia and ban all members who start such threads?

its quite IRONIc how rage3d ,only post in their headlines the positive side of ATI ,the positive news of ATI ONLY and in their FOrums everything is well controlled in benefit for ATi users. here at Nvnews even the moderators and/or ADmins are responsible for the many DIssapointed NVusers with this site. that are Extremely tolerant with ANTi-Nvidia people ,that their only intentions is not to "inform" but to FLame Nvidia users for not using ATI cards . :rolleyes:

Rage3D has always been known to me to be a much more biased place, very intolerant of non-fanboy opinions. Maybe that reputation is not deserved, and maybe things are different now. But even it the reputation was deserved...that is not the point.

And you are wrong. Several ATI fanboys who do nothing but start trouble have been banned or warned. We just aren't that quick to ban people here, and I think that tolerance is reflected in our great and diverse community.

You know, there used to be a time when being a video card enthusiast was synonymous with being an nvidia enthusiast. I am one of the few people in these forums who was defending NV30 when it was launched and proved to be a disappointment. You can check threads from that era if you want proof. But enough is enough. It is not forum members, mods, or admins who are dampening enthusiasm for nvidia, it is nvidia's actions and products that are doing it.

Do you not see that many of the ATI fanboys(sure they may be different now, some old ones left, some became more reasonable, still others were banned) existed back when nvidia was dominant? But they had no ammunition, although they still ranted. People just ignored them...well, they actually got into flame wars with them =D nvidia is providing the ATI fanboys with ammo this time around....you want to blame someone, blame nvidia.

I am insulted by your post, sir.

Ady
06-19-03, 06:41 AM
I think nvnews is a good site and I don't expect it to be going anywhere. It would be good if the boys got another site under their belt though too. :) Good luck to em. Things are run quite well here :)

vampireuk
06-19-03, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by StealthHawk
you want to blame someone, blame nvidia.

I am insulted by your post, sir.

Damn straight, how on earth can you blame us for the problems? We have no say in what NVIDIA do, so NV40 if you are looking for somebody to blame point the finger at your precious NVIDIA. I have noticed you as a blatant fanboy throughout your posting here but this just sickens me. Are you that blind that you are blaming people who decicate their spare time to this community for the problems in that company? Thanks:rolleyes:

saturnotaku
06-19-03, 09:26 AM
Some people just have a hard time seeing the video card world without wearing their green and black colored glasses. Same goes for those whose lenses are red and white. Pretty sad really. :(

muzz
06-19-03, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by bkswaney
what about atidriverssux.com ;) "lol"

If you mean rendering properly sux, then I will have to agree with ya..;)

muzz
06-19-03, 09:42 AM
ATinews sounds good to me Mike........( for a 2nd domain):D
Of course this site will always be around, as it is a good site.

digitalwanderer
06-19-03, 10:06 AM
What, you folks let fanATIcs post here?!?! :eek:

I say we have us a lynching party. I'll get some rope, you guys go round up all these ATI trouble-makers and we'll have ourselves a good old fashioned lynching! :cool:

ragejg
06-19-03, 11:27 AM
Mike knows the purpose of this site/forum...

The admins know.

The newsposters know.

The mods know.

The seniors know.

But many (almost "most") others have become distracted with the hullabaloo that surrounds the gfx card war... and thus have become accustomed to the nature of many of the posts here. I'm not gonna comp[lain about that... it's just an observation.

Sheesh, I average only 2.6 posts a day or something. Why? Cuz:

1. I'm here to help those with "entry level-ish" card questions, mostly pertainig to nvidia cards. And a little HW stuff too...

2. I'm here to obtain advice about the same things.

3. I'm not here to vent about disappointment in a business like nvidia or ati... I work at a business I'm disappointed in (in the same way that yall have probs with ati/nv)... so I don't need to waste my brainspace on "company problems/customer deception"... my heads full enuff...

4. I'm here to have a good time, to make some friends, and to occasionaly joke around in the open forum.

5. Oh yeah, I'm here to moderate on this forum in the hardweare section, and in feedback... more lke "learning how to moderate by watching the other mods ...sittin back and observing...";)

6. I'm here to *maybe* benifit the hardware enthusiast community, in any way I can.

7. I'm not here to cry foul... maybe there should be a site called www.whineaboutgrahicscardcompanies.org ... ;)


This post is not intended to inflame anyone. Just sayin my piece.

I like nvnews and what it's really about.

Hellbinder
06-19-03, 12:18 PM
That's about right too. Try loading and playing Tribes2 in opengl...

It plays fine...

If you are talking about the Black screen issue with AA enabled that is an Application issue with the way Tribes accesses the Back Buffer on screen refreshes. I had a long chat with one of the Driver guys about it. He played Tribes all the time and couldnt find a work around.. so go figure..

This is the same kind of issue as the Splinter Cell AA problem. Its different but application related. The problem is that dynamix no longer exsists to address the problem.

Hellbinder
06-19-03, 12:27 PM
Rage3D has always been known to me to be a much more biased place, very intolerant of non-fanboy opinions. Maybe that reputation is not deserved, and maybe things are different now. But even it the reputation was deserved...that is not the point.

You know I think people forget that anyone who supported ATi were in a constant battle with nearly all the hardweare sites for a little respect. You are now seeing more and more every day the fallout from Nvidia itself having to deal with not being able to have absolute control over what people think. (just my opinion).

Ati fans were mad as hell pretty much all the time becuase of the absolute universal Pro Nvidia Bias. Example.. some minor thing happens on an Ati card and there is internet wide Scoffing.. I can show you Quotes. Whereas Nvidia got pamperd and catered to at nearly every turn.

Now to be sure overall ATi was not a force to be reconed with, nor had they contributed a whole lot to the industry for a long time. So Nvidia does deserve some credit for Driving things forward the way they have. the thing is Times have changed on the Hardware, Software and APi landscape.

Its heading more towards a ballance of power and people need to start accepting that.

Hanners
06-19-03, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by StealthHawk
Rage3D has always been known to me to be a much more biased place, very intolerant of non-fanboy opinions. Maybe that reputation is not deserved, and maybe things are different now. But even it the reputation was deserved...that is not the point.

I think you're right, in general the Rage3D forum is a more biased place - Mainly due to a. Only exclusively ATi news being posted on the front page, and b. The sheer amount of traffic stemming from the fact it is the only ATi-centric forum on the Internet means that the fanboy to enthusiast ratio is higher than most other similar sites.

Personally, I think this place is great, I was more than pleasantly suprised at the amount of interesting and objective discussion that goes on here. If it was just fanboy bashing on one side or another, I wouldn't have stuck around and kept posting here.

Keep up the good work!!

Oh, and if you do set up another site... How about fanboyfights.com? ;)

Sazar
06-19-03, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Nv40
my feedback is that NVnews.net is not anymore the site i used to visit ,
to know more about Nvidia news without reading first exactly the THE SAME DISCUSSION , but under Dozens of Anti-Nvidia threads first ,in the Nvidia news section.

its quite IRONIc how rage3d ,only post in their headlines the positive side of ATI ,the positive news of ATI ONLY and in their FOrums everything is well controlled in benefit for ATi users. here at Nvnews even the moderators and/or ADmins are responsible for the many DIssapointed NVusers with this site. that are Extremely tolerant with ANTi-Nvidia people ,that their only intentions is not to "inform" but to FLame Nvidia users for not using ATI cards . :rolleyes:

firstly... rage3d is practically the only real place to have an ati discussion... look @ the calibre of people who regularly visit there... it is quite good... there are many blatantly blind fanboys like yourself who do frequent the place... but there is a reason for everything...

on a daily basis you will see guy with 1 or 2 posts come out and start a thread about omg.. ati sux0rs coz of this and this.. and looking @ todays products.. being as this is not the case... pro-nvidia views such as that are not taken kindly...

there are the regular trolls and regular numbnuts who haven't a clue what they are talking about... but thats @ every site... even on this site :) as you should well know...

nvnews is an nvidia related forum... ergo it will report the good/the bad and the ugly... (IMO) and this is what the mods and mike have done...

I think the mods here are quite cool considering the amount of rubbish they have to go through on a daily basis... but these fanboys also bring hits to this site... make it more popular and you see more and more nvidia oriented people also coming here... :) that is a positive... besides. it generates more revenue :D

you will realise if you look that most so called ati fanboys are not really so... they happen to be critical of all hardware if it does not operate to specs... do you realise how many ati fans bash ati for incorrect implementation of SS and software truform and whatnot in the current r3xx lineup ?

if nvidia releases good hardware and the company does not employ underhanded tactics.... it will be bashed less...

blindly overlooking the NEGATIVES of any IHV is giving it a free passport to continue the crap it was engaging in before...

you yourself fail to look @ the information that many posters routinely... and pointlessly search for and provide from as unbiased a POV as possible... because since it is anti-nvidia it becomes false information :)

it is unfortunate but perhaps it is not so much nvidia bashing as failing to accept that perhaps there IS something wrong in what nvidia is doing... and perhaps hoping that some day this will be fixed so that we can all enjoy our purchases and games w/o having to worry about being tricked into buying hardware that does not perform as expected...

digitalwanderer
06-19-03, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Hanners
Oh, and if you do set up another site... How about fanboyfights.com? ;)
My vote is for "nVblues.com"... :lol:

(BTW-Good words Sazar, good words. :) )

EDITED BITS: www.nvlose.com ? www.nvwho.com ?

Matthyahuw
06-19-03, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Hellbinder
Ati fans were mad as hell pretty much all the time becuase of the absolute universal Pro Nvidia Bias. Example.. some minor thing happens on an Ati card and there is internet wide Scoffing.. I can show you Quotes. Whereas Nvidia got pamperd and catered to at nearly every turn. That's because nVIDIA releases a new driver set to overcome issues every week or two...you have to wait months for a new driver set with ATI cards...