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Section-9
08-05-09, 01:06 PM
Games for Windows - LIVE Setup 3.0

Download here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=69b2c4db-0765-4980-9c1b-8f781ad50bd0

ATi
08-05-09, 01:14 PM
whats new?

Section-9
08-05-09, 01:33 PM
This is what I found so far about the list of changes in 3.0

# Anti-piracy Solution: Zero-day piracy protection and server-side authentication help prevent game piracy before street date, and protect publishers and consumers by requiring authentication for online play

# In-game Marketplace: New Marketplace APIs let developers create unique in-game store fronts and experiences surrounding the sale of additional content, providing developers and publishers with new revenue streams, and consumers with a seamless gaming experience

# Roaming: PC gamers can now save their personal settings back to their Games for Windows - LIVE account in the cloud, providing access to their settings on any compatible and connected Windows PC

Also what's not mentioned is if a game supports it you can tie the game to your LIVE key so you can reinstall as many times as you want on as many computers as you want.

CaptNKILL
08-05-09, 01:35 PM
I wonder if Shadowrun still works on GFWL. :lol:

I was just going through my game shelf yesterday and I was actually thinking of reinstalling it. I bought it not long after it was released and I only got to play it for about a week before the match making servers went down for an extended amount of time. I haven't touched it since.

I'm sure the community is pretty much gone by now.

nekrosoft13
08-05-09, 01:51 PM
so far they don't force you to upgrade, so thats good

nekrosoft13
08-05-09, 01:58 PM
ok, so updated to 3.0 and where is this in game marketplace?

under profile there is a button that says my downloads, when you click it minimizes the game, goes to desktop and then opens marketplace

ATi
08-05-09, 02:04 PM
ok, so updated to 3.0 and where is this in game marketplace?

under profile there is a button that says my downloads, when you click it minimizes the game, goes to desktop and then opens marketplace

lol:lol::rofl(crazy)(bs2)

Buio
08-05-09, 04:03 PM
This is what I found so far about the list of changes in 3.0

The new save in the cloud function can be extremely good if games start to use it. It was available before, but extremely limited in space (64KB). In the new version it is possible to have all settings and saves accessed everywhere and also after reformat without having to track down save folders on the HDD. Of course it requires the game to be adapted for it.

Here are a few more details on v3.0;
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2343873,00.asp

Anyway, it still has a lot of way to go. Gotta wonder why they don't integrate it with Messenger somehow.

NarcissistZero
08-05-09, 06:16 PM
It can still die a horrible death, as far as I am concerned.

kuddles
08-05-09, 09:37 PM
Can this version at least allow you to sign in to the client without booting up a game yet? The fact that this oversight still hasn't been corrected is baffling to me.

And yes, I'm with NZ that I would rather they just shut the service down now, because the more they continue with this extremely half-assed approach, the larger the amount of games that are attached to the client will be destroyed when they inevitably no longer care anymore and drop the service.

ATi
08-05-09, 09:52 PM
It can still die a horrible death, as far as I am concerned.

Why whats wrong?:rolleyes:

nekrosoft13
08-05-09, 10:35 PM
Can this version at least allow you to sign in to the client without booting up a game yet? The fact that this oversight still hasn't been corrected is baffling to me.

no, it can't

NarcissistZero
08-05-09, 10:48 PM
Why whats wrong?:rolleyes:

It's just nowhere near as good as Steam, which is similar in point and function, but ten times better. If a developer wants to tie the game to an online account to prevent resale and offer achievements and DLC, Steam is the broader accepted by FAR way to do it.

I don't like when a community, such as the PC gaming community, makes a clear and concise statement as to the format they support... as we have with Steam... and Microsoft says "we don't care" and forces another service down our throats using their power over publishers. It's just flat-out anti-consumer for their own ends, and the worst part is they don't even care about PC gaming that much, they're just doing it to be pricks.

And as said by someone else, when they finally give up on GFWL, how will it effect the games? MS is not above just cancelling all online features of those games entirely... meaning no more GTA4 online, no more downloading the content we paid for, etc. etc..

NaitoSan
08-05-09, 10:51 PM
Just installed GFWL Client 3.0 and finally it's nice that you can view or buy DLCs from marketplace without leaving the game. I just tried it with Fallout 3.

nekrosoft13
08-05-09, 10:55 PM
Just installed GFWL Client 3.0 and finally it's nice that you can view or buy DLCs from marketplace without leaving the game. I just tried it with Fallout 3.

how

NaitoSan
08-05-09, 10:56 PM
Can this version at least allow you to sign in to the client without booting up a game yet? The fact that this oversight still hasn't been corrected is baffling to me.

And yes, I'm with NZ that I would rather they just shut the service down now, because the more they continue with this extremely half-assed approach, the larger the amount of games that are attached to the client will be destroyed when they inevitably no longer care anymore and drop the service.
You can log in without booting up a game. You can open the client from Microsoft Games for Windows - LIVE folder on start menu.

nekrosoft13
08-05-09, 10:59 PM
You can log in without booting up a game. You can open the client from Microsoft Games for Windows - LIVE folder on start menu.

well, that not excactly what he asked, the Games for Windows - LIVE only opens the marketplace.

what he meant is full client, where you can adjust your profile, change it, communicate with friends etc...

NaitoSan
08-05-09, 11:01 PM
how
I think you need to log in LIVE before clicking "View available content" from Download on the menu in Fallout 3 or other games. It'll see whatever DLC you owned or so by using your Gamertag.

nekrosoft13
08-05-09, 11:04 PM
I think you need to log in LIVE before clicking "View available content" from Download on the menu in Fallout 3 or other games. It'll see whatever DLC you owned or so by using your Gamertag.

oh i see it now, what i tried before was open live in game, go to profile, and press on my downloads, that just minimizes the game and opens the desktop marketplace

NaitoSan
08-05-09, 11:15 PM
well, that not excactly what he asked, the Games for Windows - LIVE only opens the marketplace.

what he meant is full client, where you can adjust your profile, change it, communicate with friends etc...
Oh I see, I just checked to see and didn't see the option to do so. He could be able to do that on xbox.com. Even you can view or buy contents there as well. Maybe that's something client 4.0 will bring sometime in the future.

trivium nate
08-05-09, 11:26 PM
hooray i guess

glObalist
08-06-09, 04:55 AM
So did they fix the exploit where you can activate any GFWL game just by using your valid GFWL key?

nutcrackr
08-06-09, 04:57 AM
The Fallout 3 mouse cursor is still a little bit "off" in the menu which is damn annoying and I can't believe they didn't notice it when testing things.

New skin, but not a lot of changes, the zero day antipiracy is nice. How about actually selling some games via the service (or any damn service) - but no MGS love their retail partners.

Nitz Walsh
08-06-09, 08:24 AM
Yeesh. The external client is still pathetic, seems all they did was change the skin colour. Still:

- No drop-shadow like every other app on Vista. Looks like crap.
- Non-re-sizable window. Really?
- Grand total of what...6 demos downloadable?

The problem is obvious - commitment, and related to that, funding. The GFWL team obviously doesn't have the latter, MS doesn't have the former.

K-1
08-06-09, 01:18 PM
Will GFWL now properly install DLC for games that are installed to a separate drive (i.e. GFWL installed on C:, but Fallout 3 installed on E: )?