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Redeemed
08-06-09, 02:57 PM
Okay, so through work I was able to acquire an i7 920 + Intel DX58SO mobo for rather cheap. I fully intend to over clock the chip, but would like some recommendations on a HSF.

I've heard so many good things about the Thermalright Ultra 120 that I'm really leaning towards getting it. Money is tight however, so if I am to spend money on an expensive cooler I want it to be worth every penny (yes, penny :p :lol: ).

Here's the delimma: Newegg doesn't stock the Ultra 120 while FrozenCPU does. Infact, FrozenCPU has two version- the "extreme" which is an all aluminum design and a fan, and then the pure copper version which does not include a fan.

You'll notice I've made this a poll- figured that would be easier to keep track of who is in favor of which cooler. What I'd like to hear is some actual experience with either of these coolers. I'm including a 3rd option in the poll for "other" coolers. Please, if you choose this post what cooler you recommend and why.

I have the SilverStone Raven RV01 (http://www.silverstonetek.com/raven/products/r-photo.php?model=RV01&area=usa) case. I've heard that the True Copper can strain the motherboard, even with the backplate on the mobo. Back in the day with my AXP 2800 I used the Thermaltake Tower 112 Pure CU (http://www.thermaltake.com/product/cooler/combo/cl-p0024/cl-p0024.asp) cooler in an upright tower and to this day it's yet to strain or warp the mobo any. So I'm thinking that the Ultra 120 Pure Copper might not warp the mobo either. But I'd obviously like some feedback. :lol:

Thanks for your time and input! :D

Toss3
08-06-09, 03:05 PM
Have no experience with either but after having read xbitlabs' review of the copper I'd say it's only marginally better and thus not worth the extra $(especially if you're on a tight budget).

Review (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermalright-true-copper-u120x_8.html#sect0)

XDanger
08-06-09, 04:14 PM
IFX-14 and lots of big fans (because of a good review...)

If you cant install the backside cooler then the "regular" 120 eXtreme.


Ive just seen the case, Would the HR-10 work in there? If it does it would be pretty good maybe.

Logical
08-06-09, 05:09 PM
Go with the standard TRUE120...I believe its now available with fan and fan bracket instead of having to use the wire clips.

Reason i say the standard is as Toss3 said, the extra performance 'as little as it is' isnt worth the extra dough...also the copper and black version of the TRUE120 are actually heavier so easing your mind of the warping motherboard factor.

I have a TRUE120 and im very impressed with its cooling compared to stock or most of the alternatives.

Redeemed
08-06-09, 05:25 PM
Thanks for the feedback ya'll! :D

X-Danger- to go with that cooler plus fans would put me out over $100. And it doesn't seem to do a significantly better job than the Ultra-120 extreme.

Go with the standard TRUE120...I believe its now available with fan and fan bracket instead of having to use the wire clips.

Reason i say the standard is as Toss3 said, the extra performance 'as little as it is' isnt worth the extra dough...also the copper and black version of the TRUE120 are actually heavier so easing your mind of the warping motherboard factor.

I have a TRUE120 and im very impressed with its cooling compared to stock or most of the alternatives.

If I may ask, what are the ambient temperatures (room temp) where you live? And what are the idle/load temps of your proc at it's current OC?

I'm merely asking so I'd have a better idea as to how the cooler would perform for me. If your temperatures are comparable to mine, then I'd assume cpu temps would be comparable as well. Also, what thermal compound did you use?

Thanks again you guys! :D

bob saget
08-06-09, 05:32 PM
I got the extreme with the fan. However I also bought a 2000rpm case fan. After finding out the TRUE comes with is a 1600rpm, i switched them around (very easy to do, just slide it out of the little casing) and now i have the 2000rpm one cooling the cpu. Noise is not an issue for me.
I really like the true, just make sure you have room with the mosfets around the cpu.
The true is very heavy, so you gotta make sure everything is bolted on very securely and tight.
I used the paste that came with the cooler, and my stock temps are pretty decent, nothing mind blowing, but also nothing horrible.
I also suggest you get the latest bios for overclocking, 99% of the time it helps with stability.

bob saget
08-06-09, 05:33 PM
Yea mine came with the fan bracket.

Logical
08-06-09, 10:44 PM
If I may ask, what are the ambient temperatures (room temp) where you live? And what are the idle/load temps of your proc at it's current OC?

I'm merely asking so I'd have a better idea as to how the cooler would perform for me. If your temperatures are comparable to mine, then I'd assume cpu temps would be comparable as well. Also, what thermal compound did you use?

Thanks again you guys! :D

Ambient temp is around 24c, CPU idle temp is 32c and load temp after running prime for an hour is 65c.

Thats with a 1400rpm fan on the TRUE120 and Artic Silver 5 TIM.

Redeemed
08-06-09, 11:43 PM
Ambient temp is around 24c, CPU idle temp is 32c and load temp after running prime for an hour is 65c.

Thats with a 1400rpm fan on the TRUE120 and Artic Silver 5 TIM.

24c would be roughly around 60*F, correct? :lol: That's about how hot it gets during the day around here. At night it gets around 48*F (about 14*C) and I could just turn the fan on in my window to really cool things down if I wanted to. :lol:

I plan to use a silver-based thermal grease as well. Don't think it's AS5 though... think I ran out of that stuff a while ago. :lol: :p

Hmm... the over whelming numbers are going in favor of the standard Ultra-120 extreme. Do to an odd turn of events, I just might be purchasing a new monitor as well. Thinking about the 28" Hanns-G (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11236988&whse=BC&topnav=&cat=62021&b=1&lang=en-US) monitor. :D But that's a different topic entirely. :p :lol:

Thank you for the feed back ya'll! Though I am curious- how does the Tuniq Tower stack up to the Ultra-120 extreme? I know not too long ago it used to be the top cooler. Is it comparable? It's near $25 cheaper. Would I be wise to spend the extra $25 on the Ultra-120 extreme?

betterdan
08-06-09, 11:54 PM
24c would be roughly around 60*F, correct? :lol: That's about how hot it gets during the day around here. At night it gets around 48*F (about 14*C) and I could just turn the fan on in my window to really cool things down if I wanted to. :lol:

I plan to use a silver-based thermal grease as well. Don't think it's AS5 though... think I ran out of that stuff a while ago. :lol: :p

Hmm... the over whelming numbers are going in favor of the standard Ultra-120 extreme. Do to an odd turn of events, I just might be purchasing a new monitor as well. Thinking about the 28" Hanns-G (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11236988&whse=BC&topnav=&cat=62021&b=1&lang=en-US) monitor. :D But that's a different topic entirely. :p :lol:

Thank you for the feed back ya'll! Though I am curious- how does the Tuniq Tower stack up to the Ultra-120 extreme? I know not too long ago it used to be the top cooler. Is it comparable? It's near $25 cheaper. Would I be wise to spend the extra $25 on the Ultra-120 extreme?
24C is 75F

All I have experience with is the Xigmatek Dark Knight on a Q9550 but it is a great and pretty damn cheap heatsink/fan. Right now it is 75F (24C) and my cpu is idling at 34C and after Prime 95 for an hour it gets up to 60C
I used Arctic Silver 5 paste also.

CaptNKILL
08-07-09, 12:14 AM
I wouldn't get a solid copper heat sink these days.

The sinks are just too massive. I think the copper TRUE weighs several pounds... which is completely insane. I'd never hang anything that heavy off of my motherboard.

The aluminum version is excellent and weighs about one third as much as the copper.

EDIT: Also, I don't see the copper one even listed on their site under socket 1366. They probably aren't making them anymore, so you'd have to buy the 775 model plus a 1366 adapter and a fan. That'd probably cost you like $120+ total. :lol:

bob saget
08-07-09, 01:40 AM
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=34994&vpn=U120E-1366-RT&manufacture=Thermalright

got this identical package. fan is a 1600rpm model. Like i said, i switched it out for a 2000 rpm model.

bob saget
08-07-09, 01:41 AM
Ambient temp is around 24c, CPU idle temp is 32c and load temp after running prime for an hour is 65c.

Thats with a 1400rpm fan on the TRUE120 and Artic Silver 5 TIM.

with overclocked? wow i am getting those identical temps stock :( :(

grey_1
08-07-09, 07:23 AM
Thermolab Baram (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermolab-baram.html)

It's what I want. Read up on it.

Logical
08-07-09, 07:56 AM
with overclocked? wow i am getting those identical temps stock :( :(

I think the D0's run slightly hottter but are more stable than the c0/c1, i might wrong though. TBH the variation in temps from stock and my 3.6Ghz o/c isnt that much at all..maybe just a few degrees on load. Once you start hitting 4Ghz is when heat becomes a factor, for me anyway.

Redeemed
08-07-09, 10:51 AM
Thanks for your feedback and input ya'll! :D

Thermolab Baram (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermolab-baram.html)

It's what I want. Read up on it.

I can't seem to find that cooler on Newegg, but haven't checked frozencpu yet. If it's cheap enough I could see getting it over the Ultra-120. Ultimately, price would be the determining factor. If it costs more then I'm not paying extra for at best a 3*C drop. If it costs the same or less I'll probably pick one up.

Do you know where I can purchase these and about how much they go for? Thanks Grey! :D

grey_1
08-07-09, 01:20 PM
Thanks for your feedback and input ya'll! :D



I can't seem to find that cooler on Newegg, but haven't checked frozencpu yet. If it's cheap enough I could see getting it over the Ultra-120. Ultimately, price would be the determining factor. If it costs more then I'm not paying extra for at best a 3*C drop. If it costs the same or less I'll probably pick one up.

Do you know where I can purchase these and about how much they go for? Thanks Grey! :D

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=Thermolab+Baram


http://search.store.yahoo.net/cgi-bin/nsearch?.autodone=http://store.yahoo.com/sidewindercomputers/nsearch.html&catalog=sidewindercomputers&query=Thermolab%20Baram

:)

EDIT: There are a ton of reviews on this thing, all favorable. I'd suggest you look some up before throwing down the cash, just to make sure you don't think one site erred or is biased. Post back what you get!

bob saget
08-07-09, 02:05 PM
I think the D0's run slightly hottter but are more stable than the c0/c1, i might wrong though. TBH the variation in temps from stock and my 3.6Ghz o/c isnt that much at all..maybe just a few degrees on load. Once you start hitting 4Ghz is when heat becomes a factor, for me anyway.

I see, thanks for the reply.

Redeemed
08-07-09, 04:19 PM
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=Thermolab+Baram


http://search.store.yahoo.net/cgi-bin/nsearch?.autodone=http://store.yahoo.com/sidewindercomputers/nsearch.html&catalog=sidewindercomputers&query=Thermolab%20Baram

:)

EDIT: There are a ton of reviews on this thing, all favorable. I'd suggest you look some up before throwing down the cash, just to make sure you don't think one site erred or is biased. Post back what you get!
A plethora of reviews and most saying exceptional things about that cooler. The common negative is the coolers' availability.

Now I'm torn- either wait for that cooler to become more available or just get the Ultra-120 extreme. :lol: Thanks, Grey. You might have just delayed my build. :p :lol: J/K :D

grey_1
08-07-09, 05:18 PM
A plethora of reviews and most saying exceptional things about that cooler. The common negative is the coolers' availability.

Now I'm torn- either wait for that cooler to become more available or just get the Ultra-120 extreme. :lol: Thanks, Grey. You might have just delayed my build. :p :lol: J/K :D

LOL, you're welcome :lol:

bob saget
08-07-09, 05:22 PM
Grey has a habit of holding off people's upgrades, some for a VERY long time :bleh: :bleh:

:p :p

grey_1
08-07-09, 07:02 PM
Grey has a habit of holding off people's upgrades, some for a VERY long time :bleh: :bleh:

:p :p

I told you that pc would be good for a while. Was I wrong? :)

PaiN
08-07-09, 08:11 PM
I'm all about quiet performance....when I decided to get another s775 CPU(Q9550) I did my research and decided on the Noctua NH-U12P 120mm (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608002), they have fantastic cooling and are virtually silent.
Off topic...but along the same lines I'm adding an AC Accelero Xtreme280 for my GTX260, another silent but effective cooler

bob saget
08-07-09, 10:14 PM
I told you that pc would be good for a while. Was I wrong? :)

:D

Roliath
08-07-09, 10:53 PM
I voted for the TRUE, look for a Cogage if you want to save some cash (it still offers stellar performance).
also I hate to link to other forums, however you will want to check out [H]'s i7 heatsink roundup as it provides some very good information.